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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Vote on April 09, 2012, 10:40:16 am
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I feel like horsemen should stay away from melee.
If you ride your horse in a group of fighting friendly and bump them because YOU want that kill so hard. Then its imo griefing.
Its like drive a car with 200 km/h in streets full of people and say I dont want kill them I just want drive fast.
Of course you can hit M but the problem is not always about team kill, stun and knockdown by a bump of friendly let enemies kill you.
The team mates often just ride direct into your direction and you think its maybe enemy so you are forced to look around every time you hear a horse if you dont check this the enemies will kill you.
Why not let infantry protect themselves?
When friendly horseman would fear to get dismounted after he bumped a friendly he would make sure to stay away.
If you kill a friendly horse at spawn you should get punished.
If you kill a friendly horse in the field then nothing should happen, at least no punish from admins.
What do you think?
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bit hard to stay away from the melee when your weapon only has 95 range
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While I do believe that cav should watch the fuck out then this is REALLY REALLY REALLY fucking retarded, if this is added whenever a "friendly" inmy old friendtry happens to get close to a friendly cav he'll TH it for the lolz, this beats all other previous suggestions in "worst suggestion of the year"...
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Lmao another dumb suggestion. If it bothers you that much just press M. That's all that's needed.
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Lmao another dumb suggestion. If it bothers you that much just press M. That's all that's needed.
Feel free to press M after you lost your horse, how about that?
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Feel free to press M after you lost your horse, how about that?
Might as well report to admin for revenge Team wounding
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Might as well report to admin for revenge Team wounding
This topic is about that, have horsemen the right to free bump team mates or should they get punished by administration or players?
I say to 99% a bump can not be an accident if a horseman would take care, stay away from footmen. Its like in RL with horses or cars if you drive your car on sidewalk and hit people you cant claim that it is an accident, it was foreseeable.
You bumped team mates -> you lost horse licence (horse dead) = justice!?
I would like to hear opinions of admins about that.
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This topic is about that, have horsemen the right to free bump team mates or should they get punished by administration or players?
I say to 99% a bump can not be an accident if a horseman would take care, stay away from footmen. Its like in RL with horses or cars if you drive your car on sidewalk and hit people you cant claim that it is an accident, it was foreseeable.
You bumped team mates -> you lost horse licence (horse dead) = justice!?
I would like to hear opinions of admins about that.
Vote, you're a fucking retard, because someone unintentionally THs you you want the ability to teamhit everyone of their class forever intentionally, this'd be the same as saying if a shieldermy old friend from my team blocks my attack so my enemy gets a hit on me I should be allowed to break all shielders shields forever... I get TH'd more by inf than cav, and believe it or not, a hit from a danish greatsword stuns you (like bumps), damages you a lot more than bumps, and I don't see no, if they come near me I should be allowed to hit them 'cuss they might hit me demands onto them, seriously, you have indeed won the "most retard post of the year award" there can be no doubt about it.
Also, you make it sound like cav are allowed to intentionally teambump... further proof you're a shithead.
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This topic is about that, have horsemen the right to free bump team mates or should they get punished by administration or players?
I say to 99% a bump can not be an accident if a horseman would take care, stay away from footmen. Its like in RL with horses or cars if you drive your car on sidewalk and hit people you cant claim that it is an accident, it was foreseeable.
You bumped team mates -> you lost horse licence (horse dead) = justice!?
I would like to hear opinions of admins about that.
M is punishment idiot. If they do it more than enough they get kicked. Not hard to comprehend. Trying to allow revenge team wounding is just dumb.
Try charging full speed on a courser and then say bumping doesn't happen by accident. Particularly when for some reason your inf gets bumped because they ran straight into your horse. Happens a lot because inf's awareness is appalling. Hence why they get raped by cav in the first place.
A battlefield is not a pavement.
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I agree, as long as I get to run up and team kill any archer that accidently hits me firing into the melee, and spin around and murder any pikeman who hits me from behind by accident, or if a 1hander steps in front of me to get in melee range of his shorter weapon to killsteal, I will kill them immediately too.
Hell, whenever someone gets the finishing blow on someone I'm fighting, I should be able to just TK them as well.
That would be a great server to play on, don't you agree?
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I agree, as long as I get to run up and team kill any archer that accidently hits me firing into the melee...bla bla
You can always punish an archer but not always a horseman, hope you got it.
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You can always punish an archer but not always a horseman, hope you got it.
99% of the time the horsemen's bump will damage you enough for M if you get knocked to the ground. The solution to your problem is already there. Your solution is just daft.
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What I want is to achieve that horsemen take care and stay away from friendly footmen.
99% of the time the horsemen's bump will damage you enough for M if you get knocked to the ground. The solution to your problem is already there. Your solution is just daft.
This is not true it depends on your armor and horse speed. Very often people get bumped and cant punish you when they got enough armor. Very often people get bumped while they are busy with fighting and can not hit M.
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This is not true it depends on your armor and horse speed. Very often people get bumped and cant punish you when you got enough armor. Very often people get bumped while they are busy with fighting and can not hit M.
Well regardless...your suggestion just doesn't make sense.
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Well regardless...your suggestion just doesn't make sense.
It doesnt make sense for you because you want further bump your team mates. I only want from developers and admins know what they think about friendly bumps from 20-30 players on eu1, point, end of discussion with only cavalry clan member... Btw I reported your insults from 1st site, come back later, maybe I will then insult you back.
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Implement a seperate teamhit counter for horsebumps, perhaps 5 like normal teamhits counters. Unlike the teamhit counter with the victim having to press "M" this counter triggers automatically. This is for cases where you knock someone to the ground (not just bump-stun) without wounding him. If you wound him the old system triggers, and the victim can press M.
Although the suggestion in this topic is bad, I do see a problem with careless and ignorant cavalry. And he is right, in many cases when I get knocked over I don't receive any damage, so I can't press M. Sometimes I am lying around on my back more than Lindsay Lohan, due to so called "friendly" cav, but I can't do anything against it, as it doesn't make any damage. But the enemy players jumping on me and stabbing my face do. :|
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It doesnt make sense for you because you want further bump your team mates. I only want from developers and admins know what they think about friendly bumps from 20-30 players on eu1, point, end of discussion with only cavarly clan member... Btw I reported your insults from 1st side, come back later, maybe I will then insult you back.
I don't want to bump my team mates. But sometimes it happens by accident. Often it is the fault of the inf as much as it is mine. It works both ways. Perhaps if footmen see friendly cav coming they should step back and let the cav try for it as they can get the kill more easily. It's about teamplay. But that rarely happens as both parties are eager for the kill. Sometimes on some maps cav can turn a corner at full speed and there happen to be a lot of friendlys there and it's impossible to stop, turn and avoid them in time. There are any number of situations where it happens by accident. It's the nature of battle. If I bump someone and it gets them killed I tend to say sorry in chat. Nothing more is needed.
O dear you reported me :rolleyes:
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Sometimes on some maps cav can turn a corner at full speed and there happen to be a lot of friendlys there and it's impossible to stop, turn and avoid them in time. There are any number of situations where it happens by accident.
This reminds me of another possible solution, that might help a bit.
In another mod (1257ad) the cheering after battle was assigned to "T", and your character performed the corresponding animation.
How about to enable the ctrl+k move to be layed on another key? This way, if you don't have enemy cav sticking to your ass, you can quickly rear your horse and prevent a lot of bumps. Especially with the magical WSE this should be possible.
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When I'm fighting someone and see friendly cav coming to help me (actually to killsteal) I back off, take a good look at him to see if I know him. If not I just leave my prey and go the other way. Pretty much goes for every noob teammate out there but I fear cav the most because one friendly bump means I'm dead.
I do have 1Hcav alt and I must say it's pretty hard to bump teammates with 6 riding and destrier. You have to be complete moron to do it all the time. I can ride through teammates without scratching anyone. Bumping teammates is the same thing as spamming wildly trying to kill an enemy while you're surrounded by 5 or more friendlies. It works but makes you look like a major douchebag.
I'm still for auto reporting and 3 teamhits = 1 hour ban.
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I don't want to bump my team mates. But sometimes it happens by accident. Often it is the fault of the inf as much as it is mine. It works both ways. Perhaps if footmen see friendly cav coming they should step back and let the cav try for it as they can get the kill more easily. It's about teamplay.
I like that but the thing is cav often comes from behind so I can't see him on time. It's either me slashing his horse unintentionally or him bumping me getting me killed. You shouldn't charge when friendly warrior isn't aware of your presence.
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I'm still for auto reporting and 3 teamhits = 1 hour ban.
please no
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I agree that this is one of the lamest things Ive read but their isn't any reason to overly insult him about it guys. And bumping friendlies intentionally is a bannable offense just like slashing others. Making it seem as if cavalry doesnt get banned for that is really lame. Idk how many times badplayer or someother LLJK cab has been banned for it while on their armored horsies
Okay first off a lot of the time team bumps are not even our fault as a lot, and I mean a lot of people like to throw themselves in front of me. And going full speed on my champion Arabian if I hit people it's usually a garunteed M report coming. The only people I can't hurt with bumps are the highest of tin cans. And honestly I avoid my team mates all of them are paranoid and slash at any body riding nearby it really isnt worth coming to aid team mates who are going to slay my fragile horse because they dont see my bright red banner.
Heres a tip keep your head up a check both ways when crossing open spaces and when your fighting an enemy and a cav is coming to a help you, Don't orbit the enemy! remember he is a team mate and can help so let him and give him some space like you would for another footman. And some cav are better than others make note of them just like I don't fight next to those crazy people who flail around like they're on fire.
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I feel like horsemen should stay away from melee.
If you ride your horse in a group of fighting friendly and bump them because YOU want that kill so hard. Then its imo griefing.
Its like drive a car with 200 km/h in streets full of people and say I dont want kill them I just want drive fast.
Of course you can hit M but the problem is not always about team kill, stun and knockdown by a bump of friendly let enemies kill you.
The team mates often just ride direct into your direction and you think its maybe enemy so you are forced to look around every time you hear a horse if you dont check this the enemies will kill you.
Why not let infantry protect themselves?
When friendly horseman would fear to get dismounted after he bumped a friendly he would make sure to stay away.
If you kill a friendly horse at spawn you should get punished.
If you kill a friendly horse in the field then nothing should happen, at least no punish from admins.
What do you think?
Right in middle age warfare I can't see why the cavalry would ever engage enemy infantry, especially if they are already distracted fighting my friendly infantry.
How fucking dumb are people...
It's not "griefing" or kill stealing. it's called tactics and teamwork. Welcome to c-rpg, simulated medieval combat. Enjoy your stay.
*EDIT* Just to clarify from a lance cavalry point of view, I'm pretty damn good at bumping an enemy who is engaged with my friendly infantry, and then our infantry has an easy kill. Even the best cavalryman who have the best control over their horse will still bump a friendly from time to time, it happens. You can't always control what direction someone moves in, and you don't always have time to react. It's just like getting team hit or shot by a friendly archer, it's going to happen, if you notice someone is terrible at cavalry or terrible at shooting arrows, say something, but don't blame every single person that plays cavalry or is an archer.
*EDIT #2*
And just a historical reference, lots of times when a horse was hit by an arrow it would ride around uncontrollably and sometimes run through friendly lines of infantry without the rider being able to control it. Shit happens in warfare, but if someone is just terrible at riding their horse, call them out on it, don't blame every single horseman.