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Title: Horse racing event/mode
Post by: Micah on April 05, 2012, 06:20:23 pm

 8-)
well .. or maybe as an idea for a tournament ... where players can bet on horses .. with an parcour map .. or so.
maybe its a silly idea but also mb some people think it could be fun :mrgreen:

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ok, first of all: thanks for your interrest  :lol:
secondly, we have 3 options of realizing a horse race tournament (if its possible in the end):
    1) free choice of items and characters (including loomed horses and unrestricted character levels )
        - this would result in an rather unballanced state of tournament since there would be quite obvious favorites ( level wise and horse loom grade wise )
        - also would result in a more intense head to head favorite races of dedicated players
    2) restricted loom grade and and character levels for the tournament participants (e.g. max lvl30 characters - think of STF chars here - and only plain horses and gear - as in sumpter, rouncey ... courser )
        - would result in a more "ballanced" versioin of the game for starters
        - with possibly less epic finals and less evolutionary development for recuring  horse race tournaments
    3) some mix of 1) and 2)

furthermore there seems to be a parcours map   with obsticles and everything,which is a great starting point   :mrgreen:
there could be an interrest in a plain speed race map
there should be a proper ruleset to make things clear
and last but not least a unambitious time measuring method


edit: not to forget a trustworthy, neutral biding bureau (thinking of official admins here )  if official bidings will be allowed

Title: Re: Horse racing mode
Post by: Rebelyell on April 05, 2012, 06:57:21 pm

hard to do but sounds good

btw i can get with my horsy almost evrywhere

Title: Re: Horse racing mode
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on April 05, 2012, 07:29:57 pm

I think it would have to be an event.  I think GK has a "tourney map" they made, possibly with a race track, but not a race "course" requiring jumping/maneuvering/etc.

Would be fun though, the best thing I can think of would be to have course that one person rides at a time and they are timed.

The only horses I can see that would be viable would be a courser and possibly arabian warhorse (if there's enough turning involved).

Title: Re: Horse racing mode
Post by: Tiberias on April 05, 2012, 10:01:08 pm

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Title: Re: Horse racing mode
Post by: Overdriven on April 05, 2012, 10:44:30 pm

Quote from: CrazyCracka420 on April 05, 2012, 07:29:57 pm

I think it would have to be an event.  I think GK has a "tourney map" they made, possibly with a race track, but not a race "course" requiring jumping/maneuvering/etc.

Would be fun though, the best thing I can think of would be to have course that one person rides at a time and they are timed.

The only horses I can see that would be viable would be a courser and possibly arabian warhorse (if there's enough turning involved).

GK map has a race track with corners, obstacles and jumps. It's quite well done actually. Could easily be used for this. But yeah Arabian and Courser are really the only two viable horses.

Title: Re: Horse racing mode
Post by: Torben on April 05, 2012, 10:45:36 pm

lol everyone behold of the epic sumpter races

Title: Re: Horse racing mode
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on April 05, 2012, 10:55:36 pm

Quote from: Torben on April 05, 2012, 10:45:36 pm

lol everyone behold of the epic sumpter races

That works too, just make everyone ride the same type of horse to see who the better horseman is.  Obviously people with higher rider will ride and turn faster, but would still be fun.

Title: Re: Horse racing mode
Post by: Mallets on April 06, 2012, 01:28:37 am

The betting part would be awesome!  However, I'm unsure how you would (could) go about doing that.

Title: Re: Horse racing mode
Post by: Micah on April 06, 2012, 02:22:44 am

ok, first of all: thanks for your interrest  :lol:
secondly, we have 3 options of realizing a horse race tournament (if its possible in the end):
    1) free choice of items and characters (including loomed horses and unrestricted character levels )
        - this would result in an rather unballanced state of tournament since there would be quite obvious favorites ( level wise and horse loom grade wise )
        - also would result in a more intense head to head favorite races of dedicated players
    2) restricted loom grade and and character levels for the tournament participants (e.g. max lvl30 characters - think of STF chars here - and only plain horses and gear - as in sumpter, rouncey ... courser )
        - would result in a more "ballanced" versioin of the game for starters
        - with possibly less epic finals and less evolutionary development for recuring  horse race tournaments
    3) some mix of 1) and 2)

furthermore there seems to be a parcours map   with obsticles and everything,which is a great starting point   :mrgreen:
there could be an interrest in a plain speed race map
there should be a proper ruleset to make things clear
and last but not least a unambitious time measuring method


edit: not to forget a trustworthy, neutral biding bureau (thinking of official admins here )  if official bidings will be allowed

Title: Re: Horse racing mode
Post by: Vexus on April 06, 2012, 02:28:56 am

Wouldn't mind it could be a nice mode to spend some time when your not up on fighting.

Title: Re: Horse racing mode
Post by: Mallets on April 06, 2012, 02:59:46 am

Event, Not A Mode

Personally, I'd foresee it more as an event than a mode like Rageball, Defend the Virgin, etc..  Maybe it could be an event ran every 1st weekend of the month (just an example).  That Saturday and/or Sunday would be full of racing events.  Maybe some could be just for fun.  Maybe some could be more serious... with betting and prizes awarded to the winner (or winning clan, see below).

Number Of Contestants

An issue for the serious events... the one's with betting, prizes, and money involved... would be how many contestants do you let participate.  To solve this, maybe for the bigger/serious events... it could be set up where each of the major clans nominates 1 rider from their clan (could even make it 2 riders from a clan, but I'd think no more than that).  This would allow for some real rivalry to take place.  And the betting would now have even more added weight to it.

Betting

Now how to properly run/perform the betting aspect... I'm unsure.  I'd think it'd have to be done here on the forums... days prior to the race.  But then making sure the contestants are actually present to participate is just one of many issues that could arise.

Racing Categories

As for categories... maybe have a different even for each type of horse?  Or maybe an event for Ranked 0 horses, and an event for Loomed horses?  Obviously you couldn't control how much Riding a character had.  And knowing folks... you'd basically have a bunch of players with STF characters with 3/39 builds with 13 Riding.  Maybe you could somehow restrict the event to "Main" characters.

Tracks & Courses

And as for tracks/course.  I think at the minimum there should be an oval (even if just for a speed contest).  Watching contestants (and their horse) going down into turn 1... waiting to see how they fall in line... that'd be pretty exciting.  A straight drag race would be way to boring.  A separate event with an actually course... where the contestant will need maneuverability & speed (and more adept driving skills) to be competitive.  And maybe even the course event could be run one at a time... with the fast time winning.

No Carnage!!!

Lastly... and this is just my opinion... like all this is... I am STRONGLY against folks using any kind of weapon in these events.  You are going to get some hyper, chaos-loving teenagers saying you should be able to use weapons to try an impede (or kill) your opponents and/or their horse.  NO!!!  Or at least make it a separate, silly, fun-filled event.  If enough folks call for it, then sure, why not have it.  But no money or prizes should be at stake.


Closing Statement: I Suck, Hope This Helps!

Ok... I know this is all opinion.  Take of it what you will.  Leave what you will.  Just throwing out ideas.  Hope it helps!

Title: Re: Horse racing event/mode
Post by: Micah on April 06, 2012, 03:40:40 am

@Mallets: thanks for your input  :D
reading your post was leading me to some more insight about my own idea xD
- the idea is truely made more for an event than for a game mode/mod  :idea:
- if its an event it should be a big community wide event with many participants  :mrgreen: ( i wouldnt like to have it as a clan exlusive event, leaving all solo players out of the game )
- if its a big event with many contestants  there needs to a propper elemination procedure generating remaining set of players that are reaching the next tier of the tournament
  while reading your post i was thinking of using the mentioned racing categories/track&courses as the step stones for each of those tournament tiers
  for this to happen there would also be the need of adequate maps/measuring methods for each category ( possibly including a carnage instances (jousting ?) where people are meant to beat eachothers up in order to win the round  :twisted:)
  pure riding skill based builds would be outplayed in fighting instances obviously

Quote from: Mallets on April 06, 2012, 02:59:46 am

Closing Statement: I Suck, Hope This Helps!

Ok... I know this is all opinion.  Take of it what you will.  Leave what you will.  Just throwing out ideas.  Hope it helps!

not at all mate ! thanks again for your rich reply which gave me hope to continue on this  :D

Title: Re: Horse racing event/mode
Post by: Mallets on April 06, 2012, 03:46:55 am

Cool man!  Glad I could help!

I think it's great to have it open to anyone (and making it a big community event).  Just have fun keeping up with all those participants!  Bracketing is a very intricate science!  (Joke!)

Title: Re: Horse racing event/mode
Post by: Logen on April 06, 2012, 03:48:18 am

didnt read but approve cause its micah

Title: Re: Horse racing event/mode
Post by: Micah on April 06, 2012, 04:06:39 am

Quote from: Logen on April 06, 2012, 03:48:18 am

didnt read but approve cause its micah

umm ... thanks .. i guess  :o

Title: Re: Horse racing event/mode
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on April 06, 2012, 05:23:48 pm

Micah GK does some events, I'm sure if you got in touch with them they would let you user their tournament map, or even help you organize races.