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Title: an example of marketplace nonsense
Post by: Latvian on March 20, 2012, 05:29:44 pm
Thick Heraldic Transitional Armour   399,999       VS    Thick Heraldic Mail with Tabard   500,000

how can armor with higher stats can cost a lot less than armor with less protection?
Title: Re: an example of marketplace nonsense
Post by: Vibe on March 20, 2012, 05:32:44 pm
Oh dear, someone give this guy an intro to economics
Title: Re: an example of marketplace nonsense
Post by: larlek on March 20, 2012, 05:39:09 pm
I have two apples. One looks good and one doesn't. The one that doesn't look good is actually the better tasting apple. An average man/woman walks into the store and decides to buy an apple. Just one apple mind you, she isn't greedy. Which will she pick? The apple that looks great or the farmers apple that looks like it just fell from the tree?
Title: Re: an example of marketplace nonsense
Post by: Kafein on March 20, 2012, 05:44:08 pm
Oh dear, someone give this guy an intro to economics

You don't even need economics to justify those prices.

Like larlek explained, the light armors are simply better. Cheaper to upkeep and they don't slow you down that much. Armor is of limited use when 80% of the players inflict pierce or blunt damage.
Title: Re: an example of marketplace nonsense
Post by: Vibe on March 20, 2012, 05:47:17 pm
You don't even need economics to justify those prices.

Like larlek explained, the light armors are simply better. Cheaper to upkeep and they don't slow you down that much. Armor is of limited use when 80% of the players inflict pierce or blunt damage.

Whether it's stats or looks, it's supply/demand that actually controls the price.
Title: Re: an example of marketplace nonsense
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on March 20, 2012, 06:28:03 pm
Thick Heraldic Transitional Armour   399,999       VS    Thick Heraldic Mail with Tabard   500,000

how can armor with higher stats can cost a lot less than armor with less protection?

Because someone is asking more for the item with lower stats, that's how the "higher stat" item can cost less.

If you have two people, they both own an apple, one values their apple at $10 the other values their apple at $20.  That's the situation you have here...nothing more, nothing less.  People get to decide how much they sell their item for. 

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Title: Re: an example of marketplace nonsense
Post by: Kafein on March 20, 2012, 06:47:30 pm
Whether it's stats or looks, it's supply/demand that actually controls the price.

Yes but even if we put supply/demand aside, for example supposing they are equal for all items, the mail with tabard is worth more IMO.
Title: Re: an example of marketplace nonsense
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on March 20, 2012, 07:21:31 pm
mail with surcoat or heraldic mail with surcoat is a lot better than the heraldic mail with tabard...I'll give up 2 body armor for 6 more feet armor, not to mention you have 18 foot armor for your chest piece which is almost as high as you can get (and you're only paying 6k for the item).

I don't think heraldic transitional is worth the price (19k) for getting 15 more body armor than if I was to use a mail with surcoat.  You're paying 1k gold for every 1 body armor more than the mail with surcoat. 

But at the end of the day, that's all personal preference and choice.  It's up to the seller to decide what they want to price their item at, and it's up to the buyer to decide if that cost justifies what they get in return.  This thread is all common sense answers and should just be deleted.
Title: Re: an example of marketplace nonsense
Post by: B3RS3RK on March 20, 2012, 07:29:18 pm
mail with surcoat or heraldic mail with surcoat is a lot better than the heraldic mail with tabard...I'll give up 2 body armor for 6 more feet armor, not to mention you have 18 foot armor for your chest piece which is almost as high as you can get (and you're only paying 6k for the item).


Only if you are cav.You get hit in the feet too rarely as infantry to go for Foot over Body armor.
Title: Re: an example of marketplace nonsense
Post by: Kafein on March 20, 2012, 07:32:15 pm
mail with surcoat or heraldic mail with surcoat is a lot better than the heraldic mail with tabard...I'll give up 2 body armor for 6 more feet armor, not to mention you have 18 foot armor for your chest piece which is almost as high as you can get (and you're only paying 6k for the item).

I don't think heraldic transitional is worth the price (19k) for getting 15 more body armor than if I was to use a mail with surcoat.  You're paying 1k gold for every 1 body armor more than the mail with surcoat. 

But at the end of the day, that's all personal preference and choice.  It's up to the seller to decide what they want to price their item at, and it's up to the buyer to decide if that cost justifies what they get in return.  This thread is all common sense answers and should just be deleted.

An answer that does not provide new elements is not very valuable. But now with your post in we can start a heated debate about leg armor vs body armor.

I think that even for cavalry, leg armor is almost useless. The bone is really tiny and has it's damage reduced so if I chose my armor only according to stats I would go for the armor with the least leg armor/body armor ratio in a given weight range. What I really do is using the one that fits the character's theme or style.