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Title: 21/15 shielder
Post by: martyrAD on March 16, 2012, 05:12:05 pm
so i have every intention of running 21/15 at 30 till i get myself loom'd up. my question is what weapons should i be look at with 7 PS and 5 athletics? like length and speed wise?
Title: Re: 21/15 shielder
Post by: Zanze on March 16, 2012, 05:18:18 pm
A Nordic War Sword is good combination of range, speed, and damage(cut).
Broad 1h Axe for shield breaking and damage, but short reach.
Military pick/steel pick  or Iberian Mace for tin can opening. Short reach again.
Title: Re: 21/15 shielder
Post by: martyrAD on March 16, 2012, 05:21:07 pm
im currently running around with an elite scimitar and the broad one handed battle axe.. i like the axe, just dont know if i should be looking for something stat wise for a primary sword...
Title: Re: 21/15 shielder
Post by: Tears of Destiny on March 16, 2012, 05:36:31 pm
The axe is a high damage 3-direction cut weapon, so I suggest a complementary weapon such as a Steel Pick (Anti-armour) or a Warhammer (almost as good anti-armour, has crushthrough and 4 attack directions)  to fill the "gaps," or a very long (100+ reach) sword that can stab (for the range, though honestly I don't suggest yet another cut weapon). I am personally a big fan of the Steel Pick.
Title: Re: 21/15 shielder
Post by: BaleOhay on March 16, 2012, 05:52:07 pm
I carry a my shield and three weapons.

MW iberian mace to hurt armor. (+ hits hard and knock down, - bit slow and short) Fear the Thumpstick
1 handed battle axe (+ shield breaker decent cut, - bit slow and short)
MW simple sword use when shield breaks and/or I need speed and more reach (you can get much better than simple sword. This is just my strat thine arms and armor money maker)
Title: Re: 21/15 shielder
Post by: Ronin on March 16, 2012, 05:55:57 pm
...or a Warhammer (almost as good anti-armour, has crushthrough and 4 attack directions)...
It's no crushthrough, it's knockdown I think :)

I would personally suggest using one of the 3 expensive swords. If you like stabbing people Long Espada Eslavona, if you want both good swing and stab Knightly arming sword, if you don't like thrust at all nordic champion's sword. Warhammer and picks also make good weapons to use in siege as well.

OK everyone knows these weapons. But do you know THIS weapon? Italian falchion! Which is very fast, deals very good damage and also very cheap. The only problem is the short range (which is more than warhammer and steel pick). I highly suggest considering it. It's short range sometimes becomes and adventage in the chaos of the battlefield, allowing you to slash enemies without fear of hitting teammates. It is like the yataghan, from the WFaS. Fast and deadly.
Title: Re: 21/15 shielder
Post by: Tears of Destiny on March 16, 2012, 05:58:17 pm
Oops, heh, good catch. Still, very useful.
Title: Re: 21/15 shielder
Post by: Ronin on March 16, 2012, 06:01:23 pm
Tears of destiny I love you. You always vote my posts +1 :D
Title: Re: 21/15 shielder
Post by: martyrAD on March 16, 2012, 06:35:39 pm
so wearing mail armor i shouldnt have too many issues with these short weapons?
Title: Re: 21/15 shielder
Post by: Zanze on March 16, 2012, 06:41:01 pm
In my opinion, 15lb max as a shielder. You'll get kited.

I prefer using 10-12lb. All a matter of preference.
Title: Re: 21/15 shielder
Post by: Tears of Destiny on March 16, 2012, 06:41:35 pm
Just be a bit careful and you will not be swarmed. You need to have an opportunistic play style to get only 5 athletics to work, but it is viable. Just don't lead charges, be a few steps behind to properly react.
Title: Re: 21/15 shielder
Post by: martyrAD on March 16, 2012, 06:45:09 pm
well steel pick is working out alright so far, running 21/15 7IF 7PS 5-Shield 5Athand 5WM with 146 hand wpf
Title: Re: 21/15 shielder
Post by: Vodner on March 16, 2012, 07:19:17 pm
With 5 ath, you might want to look into using a Nordic champion sword, a knightly arming sword, an elite scimitar, an Italian sword, an Arabian cavalry sword, or a military cleaver as your primary weapon.

When I have 5 ath, I feel that the shorter weapons (axes, can openers) severely reduce the opportunities I have to hit enemies in group fights, especially without getting in the way of other teammates. Also, if you use a short weapon and find yourself in a 1v1 vs a faster opponent, you are in for a very tedious fight.
Title: Re: 21/15 shielder
Post by: martyrAD on March 16, 2012, 07:30:21 pm
i end up doing alot of flanking/skirmishing becuase i notice my teammates are more deadly then the enemy to me, regardless of what weapon i use.
Title: Re: 21/15 shielder
Post by: Spawny on March 16, 2012, 07:32:36 pm
Also, if you use a short weapon and find yourself in a 1v1 vs a faster opponent, you are in for a very tedious fight.

This.

Even with 6 athletics and a short weapon, there will be loads of people who will just keep you on the edge of their reach (greatswords and the like) and you will hardly be able to get a swing in. Prepare to take 2-3 hits on your shield before you get 1 shot at them.
Title: Re: 21/15 shielder
Post by: Ronin on March 16, 2012, 07:37:15 pm
This.

Even with 6 athletics and a short weapon, there will be loads of people who will just keep you on the edge of their reach (greatswords and the like) and you will hardly be able to get a swing in. Prepare to take 2-3 hits on your shield before you get 1 shot at them.
...and kickslashes
Title: Re: 21/15 shielder
Post by: Digglez on March 16, 2012, 08:35:32 pm
You cant beat the overall usefulness of the B1HBA.  35 cut to massacre peasants and lightly armored folks, break shields and doors...plus flip it over and you are doing close to the same dmg as a pick would, without suffering -6 to reach.

Agi-whores will give you trouble in very wide open maps, which is why having a very long sword is nice. KAS, NCS or LAS good picks.
Title: Re: 21/15 shielder
Post by: Turboflex on March 16, 2012, 08:40:17 pm
yep 1h broad axe hits like a truck for a 1h weapon. 35cut is 1 less than a 2h'er like a longsword (and add in shieldbreaker bonus).