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Strategus => Strategus General Discussion => Topic started by: FRANK_THE_TANK on February 27, 2012, 08:03:59 am

Title: ATHW who doesn't love it!
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on February 27, 2012, 08:03:59 am: Crafting in strat is fine, but ATHW is a PILE OF RAGING HORSE SHIT.

I'm not offering an alternative. All I want to do is find out how many other people think it a bastard. Its driving me mad trying to get crafting ticks. Spending gens wearing the same crap, carrying the same shit hoping to get a crafting tick. 7 weeks of 0 I'm totally spent. I need to buff out my crafting to help make my 3 man clan more capable. We are all doing the same thing trying to get a set of gear together. I have 1 guy with good crafting, good as an under statement. I've just got no idea how his crafting is so good given my play time nearly doubles his... Why is my highest crafting 16 and his 99... FFFFUUUUUU

So yeah. Vote, what ever -_- totally spent.
Title: Re: ATHW who doesn't love it!
Post by: Earthdforce on February 27, 2012, 08:10:03 am: All Thine Hard Work is certainly a pain in the ass, and I almost never get it (unless I'm wearing shit gear, of course)
Title: Re: ATHW who doesn't love it!
Post by: Visconti on February 27, 2012, 08:16:54 am: Yeah, we have members who get the message all the time, even when they dont want it, and then members who have got it like twice, while i myself have got the message maybe 3 times, and i dont get why people over 31 dont get the message at all ? Doesnt make much sense to me, doesnt seem like my hard work is paying off if im grinding millions of experience to get to 32/33/34/35, and still not get ATHW.
Title: Re: ATHW who doesn't love it!
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on February 27, 2012, 08:38:09 am: I've had it some where between 12-18 times since June last year... GTFO this shit is poo.
Title: Re: ATHW who doesn't love it!
Post by: Havoco on February 27, 2012, 08:42:25 am: Ive always been pretty lucky with ATHW.... Last gen i got it 4 times at level 30. Damn now that ive said that I wont get it again...
Title: Re: ATHW who doesn't love it!
Post by: [ptx] on February 27, 2012, 09:00:53 am: What is this ATHW you speak of? I don't believe i have ever encountered such a thing... :|
Title: Re: ATHW who doesn't love it!
Post by: Have_At_Thee on February 27, 2012, 09:21:02 am: Its been about four weeks since I last got a message. That was about when I changed some major parts. I'm pretty sure it is linked to either how long you wear gear for or the number of times you have repaired it. When I used to easily get a few crafting messages a day I was wearing gear that I had repaired several thousand times each up to then over the months of wearing it. I guess with this new gear i'm back to 0.
Title: Re: ATHW who doesn't love it!
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on February 27, 2012, 02:02:24 pm: I support frank the tank in this! ATHW sucks big time ( i even have a thread about this somewhere....but it died :/ )
Title: Re: ATHW who doesn't love it!
Post by: Herkkutatti on February 27, 2012, 02:27:16 pm: got chadz text yesterday and last time before that was 3 generations ago. When i used to be a leecher i got chadz text 3 times a day and had 89 skill in white tunic and other shit.
Title: Re: ATHW who doesn't love it!
Post by: Stabby_Dave on February 27, 2012, 04:27:06 pm: Quote from: joosto on February 27, 2012, 02:27:16 pm
got chadz text yesterday and last time before that was 3 generations ago. When i used to be a leecher i got chadz text 3 times a day and had 89 skill in white tunic and other shit.

When you USED to be a leecher?
Title: Re: ATHW who doesn't love it!
Post by: Herkkutatti on February 27, 2012, 04:43:05 pm: Quote from: Stabby_Dave on February 27, 2012, 04:27:06 pm
When you USED to be a leecher?
silence you bundle of sticks
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hmm let me think... last time i was "leeching" it was like 3 months ago like my last chadz text
Title: Re: ATHW who doesn't love it!
Post by: Zerran on February 27, 2012, 07:48:18 pm: Got the message yesterday at lvl 2... very sad.

Seriously, this needs to be changed. At the very least allow us to accept/decline the points so our real gear doesn't get screwed over just because we don't wear it for 5 minutes and get the message.
Title: Re: ATHW who doesn't love it!
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on February 27, 2012, 09:57:55 pm: The idea I had the other day was this.

You can select any 4 items you own. Having them selected means each time you get a tick (XP + Gold i.e x1 x2 x3) 1 point is add to them. You must also be wearing the item. x3 adds a +1 x4 a +2 and x5 a +3. So at x5 you gain 4 points to your crafting XP bar. Each 30 points = 1 skill point. If this works out to be too fast or what ever then just change 30 to 40, 50, 60 or what ever it needs to be.

What we need is a drug/crack like xp bar that we can stare at and cry. MAKE IT HAPPEN.
Title: Re: ATHW who doesn't love it!
Post by: Zerran on February 27, 2012, 11:25:46 pm: Quote from: FRANK_THE_TANK on February 27, 2012, 09:57:55 pm
The idea I had the other day was this.

You can select any 4 items you own. Having them selected means each time you get a tick (XP + Gold i.e x1 x2 x3) 1 point is add to them. You must also be wearing the item. x3 adds a +1 x4 a +2 and x5 a +3. So at x5 you gain 4 points to your crafting XP bar. Each 30 points = 1 skill point. If this works out to be too fast or what ever then just change 30 to 40, 50, 60 or what ever it needs to be.

What we need is a drug/crack like xp bar that we can stare at and cry. MAKE IT HAPPEN.

This makes vastly more sense than the current system, and is far more fair. DO IT NAOW!!!!
Title: Re: ATHW who doesn't love it!
Post by: RibaldRon on February 27, 2012, 11:42:43 pm: I actually get chadztext pretty regularly and I want it changed.

From a gameplay standpoint it does not make a lot of logical sense.

I do like that you get Strat bonuses for what you use in c-RPG but really, the system needs an overhaul! Needs to be more predictable, and give a larger bonus.

Honestly, the current system would be fine if, let's say, you had a good chance to get it after beating a game of DTV. Trade gold for chadztext.
Title: Re: ATHW who doesn't love it!
Post by: Havoco on February 28, 2012, 01:14:35 am: Quote from: FRANK_THE_TANK on February 27, 2012, 09:57:55 pm
The idea I had the other day was this.

You can select any 4 items you own. Having them selected means each time you get a tick (XP + Gold i.e x1 x2 x3) 1 point is add to them. You must also be wearing the item. x3 adds a +1 x4 a +2 and x5 a +3. So at x5 you gain 4 points to your crafting XP bar. Each 30 points = 1 skill point. If this works out to be too fast or what ever then just change 30 to 40, 50, 60 or what ever it needs to be.

What we need is a drug/crack like xp bar that we can stare at and cry. MAKE IT HAPPEN.
I like the idea but it would need to scale up like the current xp leveling system in crpg.
Title: Re: ATHW who doesn't love it!
Post by: Kafein on February 28, 2012, 01:32:50 am: I hate ATHW. I only get it when I'm under level 10. No wonder I stopped Strat.
Title: Re: ATHW who doesn't love it!
Post by: Havoco on February 28, 2012, 02:07:25 am: Also, I think the devs didn't exPlain the current athw system mechanic because they don't want Ppl to abuse it. A system like this should have an element of randomness to it to keep it from being abused. Keep the athw xp bar but make it upgrade crafting skill for random pieces of equipment. The number upgraded could be fixed or random as well.
Title: Re: ATHW who doesn't love it!
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on February 28, 2012, 02:09:53 am: How about this. Your crafting degrades if you don't have the item selected.
Title: Re: ATHW who doesn't love it!
Post by: Havoco on February 28, 2012, 02:22:09 am: I guess it would depend on whether you'd want specialized crafters for the selected equipment or a more grind based system for all saved equipment.
Title: Re: ATHW who doesn't love it!
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on February 28, 2012, 05:03:56 am: Yeah I hate the idea of more grind.

Perhaps it should be limited to 2 slots instead... I just think people should be able to select a small group of gear and stuff.
Title: Re: ATHW who doesn't love it!
Post by: Garem on February 29, 2012, 08:29:04 pm: Crafting in the game is neither fun nor intuitive in general. Specifically, ATHW promotes limitless grinding. The upside is that those who grind get better, cheaper gear in Strategus. I like some correlation between cRPG and Strategus, but the current implementation just doesn't do it for me. Especially the limitless part.
Title: Re: ATHW who doesn't love it!
Post by: Largg on March 01, 2012, 10:20:19 am: I'm actually quite happy playing past level 31, I never have to think about the equip I wear smithing skill wise. But yeah I agree with the original poster.
Title: Re: ATHW who doesn't love it!
Post by: reaperkiller on March 01, 2012, 05:37:59 pm: I FUCKING WANT chadz TEXT PASS LV 30 FOR GODS SAKE WHY SHOULDN'T I GET "thy hard work" when im wearing the same shit all 24 hours 7 days a week all fucking month and year!! huh?? huh??? answer me!! o great holy chadz!! answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ok im done ragging back to awesomeness 8-)
Title: Re: ATHW who doesn't love it!
Post by: 22nd_King_Plazek on March 01, 2012, 07:57:30 pm: Quote from: reaperkiller on March 01, 2012, 05:37:59 pm
I FUCKING WANT chadz TEXT PASS LV 30 FOR GODS SAKE WHY SHOULDN'T I GET "thy hard work" when im wearing the same shit all 24 hours 7 days a week all fucking month and year!! huh?? huh??? answer me!! o great holy chadz!! answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ok im done ragging back to awesomeness 8-)
Title: Re: ATHW who doesn't love it!
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on March 02, 2012, 05:19:12 am: Yeah its a bit like that.

If you guys want to keep up the ranting please go to this post http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,26924.0.html yes that mother fucker and keep up the chatter. It keeps being pushed out of the suggestions bored front page.