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Post by: Kulin_ban on February 23, 2012, 12:44:51 pm
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Title: Re: Why selling looms is better than looming your own items after retire...
Post by: SirProto on February 23, 2012, 12:46:43 pm
But it just doesn't feel as good as the build up to your next loom :(
Title: Re: Why selling looms is better than looming your own items after retire...
Post by: SirProto on February 23, 2012, 12:55:41 pm
Retiring 16 times so you can reach maximum xp bonus would give you 11,200,000 gold of loom worth + at least 1,600,000 gold earned trough generations which is around 13 million of gold. That should be enough for 10 +3 items.

Looming your items without selling looms would give you around 5 +3 items of your choice.

What is better?

The selling loom points way is probably more efficient but I'd just feel like I earnt the items more if I loomed them myself  :P
Title: Re: Why selling looms is better than looming your own items after retire...
Post by: dodnet on February 23, 2012, 01:14:09 pm
One drawback: If you want something that no one sells, you gain... nothing.
Title: Re: Why selling looms is better than looming your own items after retire...
Post by: Cosmos_Shielder on February 23, 2012, 01:25:35 pm
There is also a drawback if you want to be high level like 33 or 35, but that's not what I'm talking about here. BTW, you can always find something if you have enough gold. Everything sells.
Yes you can. But you ll need to buy and heirloom point for that :D
Title: Re: Why selling looms is better than looming your own items after retire...
Post by: Spawny on February 23, 2012, 01:36:01 pm
Some items are VERY hard to find and if you find someone who has it, it will take a lot more than 1.5 or 1.6 mil gold to convince them to sell it.

What do you need 9 +3 items for anyway?
Title: Re: Why selling looms is better than looming your own items after retire...
Post by: Kafein on February 23, 2012, 01:40:58 pm
There is also a drawback if you want to be high level like 33 or 35, but that's not what I'm talking about here. BTW, you can always find something if you have enough gold. Everything sells.

Nope. There aren't that many players and heirloom point sellers so as to make one able to buy anything, even in the "not that uncommon" range. Sure you can find plenty of kuyaks. The model of selling looms and buying what you need with the money works, but it has it's limits. If you have self-esteem (that is, you are not part of the kuyak clone army), use throwing weapons, shields or need specific armor parts, you are running into problems. Also, +3 items are the only interesting ones (you'll have trouble selling +1 and +2). And very logically, they have the greatest price per heirloom point ratio. So it's interesting to buy +3 items because otherwise you are either wasting your heirloom points upgrading what you bought, or your money by selling them probably cheaper (or after waiting for too long with your money blocked). But it's also the ones you'll be making the least profit out of the point selling/object buying cycle with.
Title: Re: Why selling looms is better than looming your own items after retire...
Post by: Polobow on February 23, 2012, 02:55:06 pm
Thing is, nobody is selling a elder's torch, so why bother selling my loompoints? Once i'm gen 4 i got +3 torch.
Title: Re: Why selling looms is better than looming your own items after retire...
Post by: Lizard_man on February 23, 2012, 03:20:32 pm
As other people have stated, there's just some things that knowone looms, and maybe that's something you would want. Of course it's worth doing for other looms and such...
Title: Re: Why selling looms is better than looming your own items after retire...
Post by: buba on February 23, 2012, 03:23:41 pm
Lamellar vest comes to mind, also some horses like rouncey, steppe horse, desert horse etc etc are hard to find.
And if they are on the market there ver expensive.
Title: Re: Why selling looms is better than looming your own items after retire...
Post by: Spawny on February 23, 2012, 03:25:32 pm
I'd love to have an elder's long dagger, but they're hard to find too.
Title: Re: Why selling looms is better than looming your own items after retire...
Post by: Lizard_man on February 23, 2012, 03:28:58 pm
Same with the pigface klappvisor. Haven't seen one on the market, and if there was one on the market. I imagen it would be very expensive...
Title: Re: Why selling looms is better than looming your own items after retire...
Post by: Polobow on February 23, 2012, 03:37:53 pm
I'd love to have an elder's long dagger, but they're hard to find too.

Why? Stab spammer?
Title: Re: Why selling looms is better than looming your own items after retire...
Post by: Grumbs on February 23, 2012, 04:51:59 pm
I wonder how sustainable this is. It seems loom points have gone up from 400-500k to 600k+ in only a few months. Assuming people who buy looms then sell their items for a profit, its no wonder prices hike up. If you buy a +1 for ~400k then buy 2 looms for 600k you only have to sell over 1.6mil to make a profit. Thinking of it like that, is it not worth just buying a +1 then looming it yourself to +3 rather than selling loom points? That way you get what you want and don't have to deal with anyone else, and the price of stuff doesn't keep going up
Title: Re: Why selling looms is better than looming your own items after retire...
Post by: Tzar on February 23, 2012, 04:56:10 pm
As more and more people stop retiring for either being able to participate in strat or maybe they just got what they need prices of the looms will go up and thats what your seeing no big mystery
Title: Re: Why selling looms is better than looming your own items after retire...
Post by: Zanze on February 23, 2012, 07:40:59 pm
You have to be careful about selling or buying loom points however. As I just learned the hard way, there are people that spend all day on the market just waiting to buy your items. Just lost my +3 Mail Mittens that way a few moments ago and the buyer refused to return them.

Loom them yourself, much safer.
Title: Re: Why selling looms is better than looming your own items after retire...
Post by: Arn De Gothia on February 23, 2012, 07:49:46 pm
I recently exchanged my balanced heavy bastard sword for a balanced claymore. I miss it. I wonder if I can get it back. This is also why selling looms seems tricky to me.
Title: Re: Why selling looms is better than looming your own items after retire...
Post by: Phew on February 23, 2012, 08:34:45 pm
Looming the items yourself is a hedge against inflation, which is RAMPANT on the marketplace now.

Inflation makes selling the loom points is very risky: It takes me like 2 months to retire. 2 months ago, loom points were 450k. 4 months ago, they were 300k. Now they are 650k.

If I sold loom points 4 months ago, 2 months ago, and now, I would have 1.4mil gold, which is insufficient to buy most of the +3 items for sale on the marketplace. If I just loomed a popular item to +3 myself, I could trade it for nearly anything.