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cRPG => Ban/Unban Requests => Closed Requests => Topic started by: Aspect on February 26, 2011, 06:44:48 pm

Title: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Aspect on February 26, 2011, 06:44:48 pm
This is Kolee, not Aspect. I'd like to request a permanent ban on Balton from the NA 100 server.

Every time Balton gets on the server, he incessantly harasses me. I've put him on mute multiple times and have tried to ignore him, but I'm honestly sick of his bullshit. I can't play one day and not hear him flapping his mouth about me. It's gone on for weeks, now.

I request that he be civil in chat. And that if he does not comply after he agrees to be civil, then to be banned.

EDIT: (Poll) Anyone that would like Balton to be banned should post in this topic.
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Centurion on February 26, 2011, 08:28:14 pm
i believe he should be banned as well i see him harassing u in game and now hes disrespecting some admins
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Balton on February 26, 2011, 08:29:50 pm
No, Kolee, I will not have sex with you, stop talking about me & my abs, please find a new hobby.
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Xant on February 26, 2011, 08:38:42 pm
Personally, I like Balton and would like nothing more than to touch his abs and feel their firm yet lively power in the palms of my hands, feel how they pulse with the ups and downs of life, how they grow when he is excited and how they retreat when he is sad...

No, Ban not Balton! Balton must stay!

One day I wanna make him my wife.
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Hauptmann on February 27, 2011, 06:12:05 am
I think Balton's the best idiot we have. Now that LLJK is basically dead, who's left?
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: MountedRhader on February 27, 2011, 06:40:51 am
Ban him. Harassing admins and players alike. I've even seen Balbaroth trying to be kind to him just so he would play nice and leave his poor victims alone. I honestly do not know what his problem is.. Or what caused a south African rhino Beetle grub to crawl up his ass and cause alot of hurt, but he can leave cRPG until he can resolve his own conflicts. Only then can he come back.  :|


Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Huey Newton on February 27, 2011, 06:45:06 am
ban him
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: partyboy on February 27, 2011, 06:52:08 am
Wow King Troll will condemn Balton but not defend mine own self?  FOOL
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Xol! on February 27, 2011, 09:13:10 am
ban him
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: AirPhforce on February 27, 2011, 09:14:07 am
I say ban him.
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: LordBerenger on February 27, 2011, 10:11:25 am
Ban him and he shall become more powerful than ever!

Don't Ban him or we only got Elitists and gold farmers left!
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: POOPHAMMER on February 27, 2011, 10:25:11 pm
I say keep him
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: SeQuel on February 27, 2011, 10:50:36 pm
Ban

/5chars
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Trippin on February 27, 2011, 11:48:42 pm
+1
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Mad_King_Ludwig on February 28, 2011, 02:40:55 am
He's annoying, but that's no reason to ban.  No ban.
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Tigerclaw on February 28, 2011, 08:15:35 am
He's annoying, but that's no reason to ban.  No ban.

Not sure that I'd agree with that line of reasoning. After all, why do we have rules against teamkilling and penalize players for teamkilling? Because it makes the game less enjoyable for everyone else who is playing. The same reasoning applies with delaying the rounds, racial\sexual harrasment or any other form of griefing. In order for any group of people to do something together there has to be a minimum level of mutual respect and restraint. And in any group, whenever an individual decides to pursue their own interests at the expense of the group and\or in violation of that groups norms, the group responds by removing or penalizing that individual. That, is the criminal justice system, high school, and online gaming, in a nutshell.  :D

Now obviously, there are differences in degree. In our case, trolling someone is less serious than teamkilling someone, but that doesn't mean that trolling can't become a serious problem. The difficulty is that trolling\harrassment is much harder to define than, say, teamkilling or teamwounding - at what point does trolling become serious enough to warrant action? This, however, is why we have admins, and why admins have discretion - because many incidents don't fit into a neat little cateogory that you can stick a label on or make a rule about (stupid prepositions, always sneaking into the ends of my sentences...).

So, in a situation like this, if the admins decide that a player is a consistent and incorrigble detriment to the community, then that is all the reason that they need to ban him - in essence, for being annoying. Now, not being an admin and being a relative newcomer to the cRPG community, if not the mod, I am not at this time offering an opinion on banning Balton, but I found Ludwig's remark interesting and thought that I'd put in my oar.
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Balton on February 28, 2011, 11:15:46 am
Not sure that I'd agree with that line of reasoning. After all, why do we have rules against teamkilling and penalize players for teamkilling? Because it makes the game less enjoyable for everyone else who is playing. The same reasoning applies with delaying the rounds, racial\sexual harrasment or any other form of griefing. In order for any group of people to do something together there has to be a minimum level of mutual respect and restraint. And in any group, whenever an individual decides to pursue their own interests at the expense of the group and\or in violation of that groups norms, the group responds by removing or penalizing that individual. That, is the criminal justice system, high school, and online gaming, in a nutshell.  :D

Now obviously, there are differences in degree. In our case, trolling someone is less serious than teamkilling someone, but that doesn't mean that trolling can't become a serious problem. The difficulty is that trolling\harrassment is much harder to define than, say, teamkilling or teamwounding - at what point does trolling become serious enough to warrant action? This, however, is why we have admins, and why admins have discretion - because many incidents don't fit into a neat little cateogory that you can stick a label on or make a rule about (stupid prepositions, always sneaking into the ends of my sentences...).

So, in a situation like this, if the admins decide that a player is a consistent and incorrigble detriment to the community, then that is all the reason that they need to ban him - in essence, for being annoying. Now, not being an admin and being a relative newcomer to the cRPG community, if not the mod, I am not at this time offering an opinion on banning Balton, but I found Ludwig's remark interesting and thought that I'd put in my oar.

By your logic, we should ban all the good players, because they are making the game less enjoyable for everyone they kill. That is definitely not the way the justice system operates. People are not penalized for being skilled, or for having a high intelligence (at least they shouldn't be).

Of course, the practically and theory of this motive don't align. Meaning, insecure people do hate those who are better than them, and many players who consistently get killed by those better than them do develop a hatred (and eventually seek revenge) for those that dominate them.

With that said, trolling is just another "game", another contest to test your skills at. But this battle is much more delicate, much more dynamic, it is not restricted by the creativity of pre-conceived notions, only by the intellect of the participants themselves.

That said... More intelligent people = Better trolls. Mods who mute/kick/ban for trolling are just bitter, angry, & immature children who constantly lose intellectual debates.

Carrying out a negative action against someone who is trolling is equivalent to banning a player because they are 20-0 in-game. Being better than those around you should not cause them to hate you, but it does. It is a fault that has been present in humanity for many millenia.
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: SteelDevil on February 28, 2011, 11:33:35 am
keep him ofc whats wrong with u :d
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Tigerclaw on February 28, 2011, 11:55:08 am
I specifically stated that I was referring to people who "pursue their own interests at the expense of the group and\or in violation of that group's norms." This would not include skilled players because they neither act as a detriment to this community nor does being good somehow violate accepted behavior within this community - on the contrary, I expect that for many players, being good at the game is a goal. Thus, the argument doesn't apply to skilled players simply because they are skilled, although they may fall into this category for other reasons.

It is certainly true that many insecure people respond negatively to those who perform better then they do. However, it does not follow that this includes everyone who is annoyed by trolling. Naturally, whenever people are together in any sort of social interaction, there will be some degree of banter or trolling present. However, it is to be expected that in cases of organized social interaction, those running things will set limits on what is acceptable and what is not. There is nothing necessarily wrong with this - in our case, if someone is putting forth the financial effort and the time to run a server, then of course they can decide what they will and will not permit on their server - no one is making us play there, so if we don't like it, we can play somewhere else.

Now, if an admin/mod is taking action against a troll for personal reasons, then they are being immature. If, however, the admin or mod is taking the action because the troll is behaving in a way that the owners of a server/forum have decided is innapropiate, then they are simply doing their job. Thus, whether or not penalizing a troll is equivalent to banning a player who is 20-0 depends on why the troll is being penalized - if you're doing it because you can and you feel like it, then yes, it is essentially the same. If you're doing it because the troll is beyond the limits set by the server owners, then you're being a good admin. My point was simply that those limits may not always be tangible, a fact which I rather thought you would appreciate, as you implied that you enjoy trolling due to the absence of pre-conceived notions.
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Balton on February 28, 2011, 12:26:07 pm
I specifically stated that I was referring to people who "pursue their own interests at the expense of the group and\or in violation of that group's norms." This would not include skilled players because they neither act as a detriment to this community nor does being good somehow violate accepted behavior within this community - on the contrary, I expect that for many players, being good at the game is a goal. Thus, the argument doesn't apply to skilled players simply because they are skilled, although they may fall into this category for other reasons.

It is certainly true that many insecure people respond negatively to those who perform better then they do. However, it does not follow that this includes everyone who is annoyed by trolling. Naturally, whenever people are together in any sort of social interaction, there will be some degree of banter or trolling present. However, it is to be expected that in cases of organized social interaction, those running things will set limits on what is acceptable and what is not. There is nothing necessarily wrong with this - in our case, if someone is putting forth the financial effort and the time to run a server, then of course they can decide what they will and will not permit on their server - no one is making us play there, so if we don't like it, we can play somewhere else.

Now, if an admin/mod is taking action against a troll for personal reasons, then they are being immature. If, however, the admin or mod is taking the action because the troll is behaving in a way that the owners of a server/forum have decided is innapropiate, then they are simply doing their job. Thus, whether or not penalizing a troll is equivalent to banning a player who is 20-0 depends on why the troll is being penalized - if you're doing it because you can and you feel like it, then yes, it is essentially the same. If you're doing it because the troll is beyond the limits set by the server owners, then you're being a good admin. My point was simply that those limits may not always be tangible, a fact which I rather thought you would appreciate, as you implied that you enjoy trolling due to the absence of pre-conceived notions.

Wow... I rarely ever read anything with more logical loops than what you just wrote. The best part was "the argument doesn't apply to skilled players because they are skilled." Biggest loop I have ever read in my life. "The sky is blue because it is blue." "I love chicken because I love chicken." Sorry, that's not how the world or perceptions operate.

Being skilled (good at this game) is definitely not a "norm". If it was a norm, it wouldn't be termed skilled (good). Being skilled (good) is clearly pursuing your own interests.

Also, I expect being intelligent is a goal for practically every human being on Earth.

As for your main argument, you're basically stating that the server owner is a God, and that whatever he wills goes, regardless of everything else. In that case, if the server owner decides that going 20-0 warrants a ban, then a ban should be applied?

Have fun doing what everyone in a position of power above you wills you to do. Honestly, your lifestyle must be one of the worst possible. It's like killing someone just because a policeman (who could be corrupt) told you to do it. By your logic, because he is a policeman, nothing else matters.

Also... Argumentum ad Potentiam. Learn some basic logic bro. I suppose you are the ideal person to have in your society though, because you do everything you are told, without ever questioning anything.
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: LLJK_Korea1 on February 28, 2011, 12:38:28 pm
With that said, trolling is just another "game", another contest to test your skills at. But this battle is much more delicate, much more dynamic, it is not restricted by the creativity of pre-conceived notions, only by the intellect of the participants themselves.

That said... More intelligent people = Better trolls. Mods who mute/kick/ban for trolling are just bitter, angry, & immature children who constantly lose intellectual debates.

wut
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Siiem on February 28, 2011, 12:45:50 pm
Balton is entertaining, keep him.
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Casimir on February 28, 2011, 12:48:27 pm
Can we ban Polepoop? He trolls me.
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Vexus on February 28, 2011, 12:56:14 pm
While he may be annoying till he doesn't break rules I don't think they can do anything.
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Tigerclaw on February 28, 2011, 01:33:13 pm
Apparently you must not read your own posts, then.

Misquoting or partially-quoting someone as a basis for a claim is hardly a shining example of intellectal ability. I stated that "the argument doesn't apply to skilled players simply because they are skilled, although they may fall into this category for other reasons" i.e, being skilled does not place a person into this category, but a skilled player may fall into this category due to other behavior. And considering that that entire first half of the paragraph (which you must have read, since you mentioned "norms") gave the actual definition of the group that I was discussing, i.e, "people who pursue their own interests at the expense of the group and\or in violation of that group's norms," to cut a snippet from the end of the paragraph and then dub the entire line of reasoning a loop is a pitiful excuse for a logical argument.

I'm using the word "norm" in an anthropological sense, i.e, behavior that is considered socially acceptable within a group, whether or not it is commonplace. It is a correct usage of the term to state that being skilled does not violate the norms of the community because there is no social stigma or censure attached to being good at the game.

My main point is simply a recognition of reality - on a gaming server, yes, the owner is essentially god. Is it fair for the owner to ban someone for having a 20-0? Of course not. Does the owner have the right (in terms of ability, not in terms of morality) to do that? Absolutely. It isn't a question of what should happen, it's a question of what will happen.

The owner and his associates are going to decide what is permitted on a given server, and the limits that they set may be reasonable, or they may not. It is up to the players to decide if they want to abide by those limitations. If we don't like it, we play somewhere else, and if the owner wants to lay out good money for the privilege of being a douche, good for him. Hope he enjoys his empty server. If we don't have a problem with the owner's rules, then we play there. "Voting with your feet," as they say.

Argumentum ad potentiam really doesn't apply here, since this isn't a question of veracity. If I was saying that the server owner says it is fair to ban you, and the server owner is god on his server, therefore it is fair to ban you, then you would be correct in referencing argumentum ad potentiam. However, my argument is simply that the server owner doesn't need a specific rule to cite in order to ban someone, if he decides that you are going to be banned because you violate his idea of how he wants things to work on his server (or for any other reason), then you are going to be banned because he has the ability. The ability of the server owner to ban and the fairness/unfairness of that ban are two seperate issues.

And after reading your next to last paragraph, I began to contemplate my life. And in this contemplation, when I realized that I have, in my relatively short life, been on the receiving end of a SWAT operation, been a major contributing factor in a rather dramatic church-split, received an annoying number of credible death threats, been investigated by nine different law enforcement agencies (that I know of) and generally been in trouble with one authority or another my entire life, clearly, I always do exactly what I'm told to do. Thank you, Balton, for enlightening me! I never knew I was such a conformist!

 :rolleyes:

Argumentum ad hominem? Really? Basic logic, indeed...
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Balton on February 28, 2011, 04:55:38 pm
Apparently you must not read your own posts, then.

Misquoting or partially-quoting someone as a basis for a claim is hardly a shining example of intellectal ability. I stated that "the argument doesn't apply to skilled players simply because they are skilled, although they may fall into this category for other reasons" i.e, being skilled does not place a person into this category, but a skilled player may fall into this category due to other behavior. And considering that that entire first half of the paragraph (which you must have read, since you mentioned "norms") gave the actual definition of the group that I was discussing, i.e, "people who pursue their own interests at the expense of the group and\or in violation of that group's norms," to cut a snippet from the end of the paragraph and then dub the entire line of reasoning a loop is a pitiful excuse for a logical argument.

I'm using the word "norm" in an anthropological sense, i.e, behavior that is considered socially acceptable within a group, whether or not it is commonplace. It is a correct usage of the term to state that being skilled does not violate the norms of the community because there is no social stigma or censure attached to being good at the game.

My main point is simply a recognition of reality - on a gaming server, yes, the owner is essentially god. Is it fair for the owner to ban someone for having a 20-0? Of course not. Does the owner have the right (in terms of ability, not in terms of morality) to do that? Absolutely. It isn't a question of what should happen, it's a question of what will happen.

The owner and his associates are going to decide what is permitted on a given server, and the limits that they set may be reasonable, or they may not. It is up to the players to decide if they want to abide by those limitations. If we don't like it, we play somewhere else, and if the owner wants to lay out good money for the privilege of being a douche, good for him. Hope he enjoys his empty server. If we don't have a problem with the owner's rules, then we play there. "Voting with your feet," as they say.

Argumentum ad potentiam really doesn't apply here, since this isn't a question of veracity. If I was saying that the server owner says it is fair to ban you, and the server owner is god on his server, therefore it is fair to ban you, then you would be correct in referencing argumentum ad potentiam. However, my argument is simply that the server owner doesn't need a specific rule to cite in order to ban someone, if he decides that you are going to be banned because you violate his idea of how he wants things to work on his server (or for any other reason), then you are going to be banned because he has the ability. The ability of the server owner to ban and the fairness/unfairness of that ban are two seperate issues.

And after reading your next to last paragraph, I began to contemplate my life. And in this contemplation, when I realized that I have, in my relatively short life, been on the receiving end of a SWAT operation, been a major contributing factor in a rather dramatic church-split, received an annoying number of credible death threats, been investigated by nine different law enforcement agencies (that I know of) and generally been in trouble with one authority or another my entire life, clearly, I always do exactly what I'm told to do. Thank you, Balton, for enlightening me! I never knew I was such a conformist!

 :rolleyes:

Argumentum ad hominem? Really? Basic logic, indeed...

In that case, I disagree with your opinion. You state that being skilled and going on killing sprees in no way harms your victims. Yet being intelligent and manipulating your victims does harm them. There is clearly a strong bias there.

Some examples: When I lance/couch someone in the beginning of the round, forcing them to not participate for the rest of the round, I am sure that demoralizes them in a much greater fashion than if I were to say "Yo bro, you're fat."

The first example is clearly harmful to them (me killing them in the beginning of the round), whilst the second example (me calling them fat) is a statement that can be ignored by them, in which case they will incur absolutely no penalties from it.

I really do not understand how you are stating that a physical event that penalizes a player causes no harm, yet some words that only invoke reaction if the victim allows them to, cause great harm worthy of a ban.

You justify it by stating that dying is to be expected from playing a game, yet being called fat (or other forms of "trolling") is something that players coming into the game do not realize will happen.

Well yet again, I disagree with you there. By playing the game they realize that their in-game death has a possibility of occurring. And by participating in a social scenario they should also realize that words may be exchanged between them and other players.

But I say this once more... Words can be ignored, deaths have a direct impact.


This next point is more philosophical/psychology-wise than logic... You state that there is no social stigma attached to being good, but you couldn't be more wrong. Clearly you are not a superior person/top tier person. You are not exceedingly strong/fast/attractive/intelligent, or any other score. Because if you were, you would know that being better than those around you is arguably the most powerful social stigma. This stems from the point I brought up, people get jealous. This definitely applies in-game as well. Players who are good at the game are treated in a completely different manner than "randoms" who get mediocre scores. Players who are good at this game get their dicks sucked in a similar (but less drastic/frequent) manner as mods.


I believe your real main point (disregarding your weird rants) was that killing people in-game is "socially acceptable", whilst making any negative remarks isn't. But we cannot censor ourselves on such a drastic level, one that even breaks the boundaries of subjective implications from off-handed statements, when our medium of communication is a human language. We could not even do something as simple as communicating with the intent of relying specific data pertaining only to the game, because we would have to censor most of the data. You have to realize, we can't restrict ourselves to only "good" statements, because good is highly subjective, and what one may say without meaning any harm, others may perceive that statement to be of great evil.

Humans aren't perfect, languages aren't perfect, and people's ability to articulate properly via a faulty system definitely is no-where near perfect.
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Jarlek on February 28, 2011, 05:51:38 pm
Ban him. Harassing admins and players alike. I've even seen Balbaroth trying to be kind to him just so he would play nice and leave his poor victims alone. I honestly do not know what his problem is.. Or what caused a south African rhino Beetle grub to crawl up his ass and cause alot of hurt, but he can leave cRPG until he can resolve his own conflicts. Only then can he come back.  :|

That wasn't a African rhino Beetle, it was my penis  :lol:

Also ban him.
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Gorath on February 28, 2011, 06:26:46 pm
It'd be funny to ban him, yet as a moral dilemna I don't think I could:
1)  He's the biggest emo on the forum- just look at him- being banned would probably contribute directly to him slashing his own wrists in an emo rage
2)  He's obviously got severe esteem issues as evident from the level of narcissism he displays here.  No friends irl, parents are probably quite disgusted with the emo child they produced.  He needs this for some validation in his life.  Out of pity alone we keep him, because who the fuck else will?
3)  Pretty sure he'd make another account anyways in an effort to keep some attention coming his way.  It's a safe bet that it's compulsory.
Quote from: Balton
On the 26th of Feb
« Sent to: Gorath on: Yesterday at 07:48:22 »
I officially have more negative points than you, and I am no-where near your post count/time spent on forum.

Get rocked nerd.
When your self-esteem is low, clamor for e-attention... on the weekend... instead of being out with people in the real world getting shitty drunk and laid.  :lol:

Nah, he needs the attention desperately.  Consider it charity for the tryhard.

P.S.  Fitch got fucking robbed!  At least Penn had class enough to admit he lost the fight when Joe asked him about how he felt towards the judges draw decision.
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: LLJK_Korea1 on February 28, 2011, 07:26:32 pm
It'd be funny to ban him, yet as a moral dilemna I don't think I could:
1)  He's the biggest emo on the forum- just look at him- being banned would probably contribute directly to him slashing his own wrists in an emo rage
2)  He's obviously got severe esteem issues as evident from the level of narcissism he displays here.  No friends irl, parents are probably quite disgusted with the emo child they produced.  He needs this for some validation in his life.  Out of pity alone we keep him, because who the fuck else will?
3)  Pretty sure he'd make another account anyways in an effort to keep some attention coming his way.  It's a safe bet that it's compulsory.When your self-esteem is low, clamor for e-attention... on the weekend... instead of being out with people in the real world getting shitty drunk and laid.  :lol:

Nah, he needs the attention desperately.  Consider it charity for the tryhard.

P.S.  Fitch got fucking robbed!  At least Penn had class enough to admit he lost the fight when Joe asked him about how he felt towards the judges draw decision.

You don't need to have low-esteem to act like self-loving douche
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Xant on February 28, 2011, 07:29:44 pm
You don't need to have low-esteem to act like self-loving douche

Korea1 has first-hand experience.
 8-)

Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: BalrogBoru on February 28, 2011, 07:36:18 pm
I've never heard of these people but I assume all this my old friend/emo/trash talk is because of all the "drama" that allegedly takes place on NA servers. We don't really have anything similar on the EU servers so I can't relate to all the QQ'ers, however I don't think you should ban Balton.

Firstly, his logic is sound. Tigerclaw said it wasn't and tried to associate his harassment of his victims to being a criminal, or socially redundant high-schooler. I don't really see that, it seems more likely Tigerclaw smokes weed and sees patterns where there are none.

Not only did people like Balton most definitely exist and act that way in the 12th century(mount&blade timeline), but they would go further, often marrying the wife of their victims, raising their children as house-slaves or even causing their entire family line's reputation to become permanently damaged through wickedness or mockery. I am Irish and in medieval times our country saw more battles and feuds than any other european nation, and our "trolls" are well documented.

If you don't like/understand Balton, you're an idiot and an emo. Stop QQ'ing all over my forums and stfu.

If you think that talking in chat somehow affects the game(like Tigerclaw seems to think), try to play a game without reading it. I find that helps. I know that these instructions will be difficult for some of you(Tigerclaw) but try not to be a b*tch about it. Don't QQ, just play.
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Trippin on February 28, 2011, 07:50:01 pm
By your logic, we should ban all the good players...

Too bad you aren't good bro.
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: DrKronic on February 28, 2011, 08:15:59 pm
Another shameless attempt to immortalize balton by letting him be perma banned, the fact he prolly hired someone to impersonate kolee (who plays a girl ingame) is obviously just an indirect way of showing everyone that women, even virtual ones like kolee and trippin have feelings for him and his abs

Don’t hate the player, hate the game

ALSO killing balton brings so much joy to the masses, think of the children

We should discipline balton by forcing him to change his name to something more appropriate

My idea: balton conscripted into victhebears clan so his name would be " Balton_the_Bear"  which imo is a suitable name for an aggressive male who consistently tries to show naked pics to other men
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Aspect on February 28, 2011, 08:30:52 pm
Balton, your ramblings are not logical by any means.

From what I've seen, there hasn't been a time that Balton has been civil to players with the exception of the few that can actually tolerate his bullshit. Balton trolls incessantly. It's not necessarily demoralizing or hurtful, but I must say that it's annoying as fuck. And yes, players can ignore him, but when his behavior and comments continually instigate team kills and not-so friendly fire, the server and other players suffer. This is the point at which the administrators come in.

Admins and players, ask yourself this: At what extent is Balton's trolling affecting the gameplay? When players on the server get annoyed/upset/mad at Balton for his comments, does it not distract the players from playing effectively? Does it not affect the wins, the multipliers for teams?

Does Balton's trolling foster the fun, yet competitive environment that cRPG is supposed to be? It doesn't.

Don't allow cRPG to become someone's outlet for rude, immature, condescending outbursts against others.
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: [ptx] on February 28, 2011, 08:35:54 pm
Thankfully, cRPG is hosted on private servers. This means it is only the owners own damn business to decide whom to allow (and whom to deny) playing on their servers.
I believe a certain Braeden wrote an essay about this... (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,2513.msg43214.html#msg43214) in place of someone else, no less.
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Balton on February 28, 2011, 08:52:48 pm
It'd be funny to ban him, yet as a moral dilemna I don't think I could:
1)  He's the biggest emo on the forum- just look at him- being banned would probably contribute directly to him slashing his own wrists in an emo rage
2)  He's obviously got severe esteem issues as evident from the level of narcissism he displays here.  No friends irl, parents are probably quite disgusted with the emo child they produced.  He needs this for some validation in his life.  Out of pity alone we keep him, because who the fuck else will?
3)  Pretty sure he'd make another account anyways in an effort to keep some attention coming his way.  It's a safe bet that it's compulsory.When your self-esteem is low, clamor for e-attention... on the weekend... instead of being out with people in the real world getting shitty drunk and laid.  :lol:

Nah, he needs the attention desperately.  Consider it charity for the tryhard.

P.S.  Fitch got fucking robbed!  At least Penn had class enough to admit he lost the fight when Joe asked him about how he felt towards the judges draw decision.

The ugliest/fattest c-rpg member who also holds the most time spent on the forums and the most posts is telling me to get a life & get laid.

HAHAHA, this must be a joke of some kind.
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: HeroZero on February 28, 2011, 08:56:32 pm
balton has a sunken chest and weak lower abs. Not to mention non-existent obliques.

I dunno, I don't mind him though.
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Matey on February 28, 2011, 09:01:38 pm
first off... Tigerclaw... you are wasting waaaaaay too much time arguing with balton. it would be more constructive to try to convince a pile of shit to turn into a bottle of air freshener.

secondly... Balton... you claim that trolling requires intelligence... i would just like to expand on that. trolling in such a way that the majority of people will respect you or find you entertaining generally requires intelligence (or wit as it were). trolling in such a fashion that everyone hates you or thinks you are the worlds biggest douche bag requires either a lack of intelligence, or the ability to act as if you do not possess any intelligence. considering your reputation, you are either pants on head retarded, or you intentionally act like a moron despite possessing some degree of intelligence. the best trolls are the ones who are so subtle that it is difficult to tell if they are trolling at all; you do not fall under that catagory. you may be the biggest troll, but you are by no means the best nor the brightest.
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Hurf_Durf on February 28, 2011, 09:03:40 pm
At first I was interested, but then way too much TL;DR
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Literally_Circler on February 28, 2011, 09:15:07 pm
Balton, your ramblings are not logical by any means.

From what I've seen, there hasn't been a time that Balton has been civil to players with the exception of the few that can actually tolerate his bullshit. Balton trolls incessantly. It's not necessarily demoralizing or hurtful, but I must say that it's annoying as fuck. And yes, players can ignore him, but when his behavior and comments continually instigate team kills and not-so friendly fire, the server and other players suffer. This is the point at which the administrators come in.

Admins and players, ask yourself this: At what extent is Balton's trolling affecting the gameplay? When players on the server get annoyed/upset/mad at Balton for his comments, does it not distract the players from playing effectively? Does it not affect the wins, the multipliers for teams?

Does Balton's trolling foster the fun, yet competitive environment that cRPG is supposed to be? It doesn't.

Don't allow cRPG to become someone's outlet for rude, immature, condescending outbursts against others.

He doesn't bother me, but no one really does since for the most part I actively try not to read the game chat too much. I'd prefer you just figure out a way to effectively ignore him rather than seeing someone banned for talking to you when you don't want them to, even if what he's saying is inappropriate (welcome to the internet).

That said, if he does get banned, I wont care
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Sphinxer on February 28, 2011, 09:16:29 pm
+1 for TKing when jarid hit by accident is horse

Pretty lame, always trolling on servers and just very annoying overall
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Tigerclaw on February 28, 2011, 09:49:28 pm
Thankfully, cRPG is hosted on private servers. This means it is only the owners own damn business to decide whom to allow (and whom to deny) playing on their servers.

This is basically what I was saying, in a nutshell. Balton and now Boru seem to enjoy trying to read into what was originally a simple observation on Ludwig's comment.
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Gorath on February 28, 2011, 10:16:39 pm
HAHAHA, this must be a joke of some kind.

The joke is that you really do believe you're good looking.  You look like carrot top, without personality. visitors can't see pics , please register or login
 visitors can't see pics , please register or login
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: SHinOCk on February 28, 2011, 10:17:59 pm
+1 to give him the banhammer and hopefully have 1 less douchebag on this game/forum
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Gorath on February 28, 2011, 10:24:07 pm
+1 to give him the banhammer and hopefully have 1 less douchebag on this game/forum

lol derp_in_a_can
You should try and market that to thinkgeek.com to go with their selection of geek drinks.
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Devilize on March 01, 2011, 04:52:49 am
Well I don't know what you guys did but you ended up getting the kid permanently ban from the forums. Guess you got your victory in part. cheers.
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: MountedRhader on March 01, 2011, 05:06:51 am
The ugliest/fattest c-rpg member who also holds the most time spent on the forums and the most posts is telling me to get a life & get laid.

HAHAHA, this must be a joke of some kind.

LOL balton got pwnt.
lil' troll can't even come up with a half-intelligent come back  8-)
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Aspect on March 01, 2011, 06:01:48 am
Balton banned from the forum? Nice.
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Sphinxer on March 01, 2011, 06:03:53 am
All that kid wants/needs is attention and you,re giving him plenty ...

He probably took a fake girl's name on some stupid dating site and got pictures from a guy (who maybe did the same exact thing) and he's using those pictures now ...

Anyhow, giving him a big bag of attention just makes him happy.. he doesn't care if you talk of him in good or in bad , as long as you talk about him... you know when your real life is such a failure, you need somewhere to feel important. For him , it's online, right here in the cRPG community and we're giving him what he wants...

When you look for a refuge where you spend all your time, you must really wish your parents love you but when it's not the case, you turn into a troll and get your attention online .. I really feel bad for you Balton , I really do ... :)
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: LLJK_Korea1 on March 01, 2011, 09:24:34 am
Yo why I'm being watched  :(

What I've done now
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: MountedRhader on March 03, 2011, 03:00:46 am
Oh shit.. I didn't really mean it lol he's fun to pick on sure but with no Balton..
Ahhhh.....No Balton... *basks in sunlight and drinks citrus juice w/ umbrella*
Nevermind.. I must enjoy myself.
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Deadlysiins on March 03, 2011, 03:40:39 am
Oh shit.. I didn't really mean it lol he's fun to pick on sure but with no Balton..
Ahhhh.....No Balton... *basks in sunlight and drinks citrus juice w/ umbrella*
Nevermind.. I must enjoy myself.
Balton is still in the 100man.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: MountedRhader on March 03, 2011, 05:27:36 am
Game over man..
..Game over...
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: VicTheBear on March 03, 2011, 05:31:02 am
No, Kolee, I will not have sex with you, stop talking about me & my abs, please find a new hobby.

He says this crap to me as well. Practically a direct quote, lol.
But I mute him, so honestly I don't care whether or not he gets banned. Since the only thing he's good at in-game is running his mouth, once you mute him he practically disappears into the wall of peasants.
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: MountedRhader on March 03, 2011, 05:35:23 am
He says this crap to me as well. Practically a direct quote, lol.
But I mute him, so honestly I don't care whether or not he gets banned. Since the only thing he's good at in-game is running his mouth, once you mute him he practically disappears into the wall of peasants.
Hides into the wall of peasants*  :D
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Banok on March 03, 2011, 06:05:33 am
/signed
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Toffi on March 03, 2011, 01:10:40 pm
good job he is banned
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: ManOfWar on March 06, 2011, 02:46:59 am
when he plays on the 100 man he is good entertainment
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: MountedRhader on March 06, 2011, 11:50:09 am
I've yet to witness it.  :wink:
Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Kung Fu Jesus on March 11, 2011, 09:24:22 am
As much as I play this game, I've never seen the guy do anything. Its everyone who eggs him on or teases him as soon as his presence is known. Oh well.

Title: Re: Permanent Ban Request: Balton (Poll Inside)
Post by: Devilize on March 12, 2011, 12:22:42 am
I think this has run it's course.