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Title: I need a gaming mouse...
Post by: micah243 on January 26, 2012, 07:22:59 am: Ok right now I have a pretty much broken mx518. It served me well since i have had this computer but my fiance recently spilled punch all over it :( so the scroll will now auto scroll down sometimes. That is definitely not good when i am playing and my weapon gets unequpied lol.. and it also just doesnt track right anymore. Anyway, what can you guys recommend for a good mouse? I am really looking at the logitech g9x. Would like to know what types you guys use. :) thanks
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Post by: Rebelyell on January 26, 2012, 07:28:52 am: that cheap one
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Post by: micah243 on January 26, 2012, 07:30:58 am: hmmmm... Na, im using "that cheap one" now and it just is not up to par with my skills. I move to fast so it can not keep up. I end up not turning as far as i want... So NO not "that cheap one". BUT THANKS!
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Post by: Elmokki on January 26, 2012, 07:45:35 am: Buying a super expensive mouse is just retarded. Super cheap ones are quite crap too though.

Just buy something priced similiarily as MX518. I had some Razer before my MX518 and it wasn't really noticeably better or worse than this one. Next time my mouse starts breaking up chances are I'll try something else.
Title: Re: I need a gaming mouse...
Post by: Zekerage on January 26, 2012, 07:50:40 am: Here ya go (http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=Trackball&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=7422554083509466827&sa=X&ei=PfcgT6SaJaO80AGrq-3rCA&ved=0CGEQ8gIwAA). It's what Myself and mah Woman use for all of our gaming and every day purpose computing. :D
Title: Re: I need a gaming mouse...
Post by: micah243 on January 26, 2012, 07:56:28 am: Im not really into the trackball mouses, they have just never worked well for me. And yea some of the Razors run over 100 dollars.. Thats retarded. G9x is 64 dollars and looks pretty badass. So i think I am going to order that. And i just ordered my internet upgraded from 3mbps to 12mbps. So now hopefully with my ping lower than 100 I can kill Saul a little more often ;)
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Post by: Vibe on January 26, 2012, 08:19:20 am: I switched my MX518 for Razer Deathadder. Really like it, it has 2x the dpi and claw grip.
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Post by: Sagar on January 26, 2012, 08:37:03 am: IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0
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http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/p/intellimouse-explorer-3.0

They Don't Make Them Like That Anymore, but you can find it at ebay.
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Post by: Cropzy on January 26, 2012, 10:05:01 am: I'd recommend the mouse that i currently use, its brilliant, a pro gaming mouse and its pretty cheap too.
Steel series Kinzu take a look
http://steelseries.com/products/mice/steelseries-kinzu-optical
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Post by: Dioxete on January 26, 2012, 10:08:13 am: visitors can't see pics , please register or login

The best mouse ever.
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Post by: karasu on January 26, 2012, 10:08:24 am: Honestly, when my almost 7yo MX518 stops working for good, I'll just get another one. :oops:
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Post by: Sniger on January 26, 2012, 10:16:09 am: ive had intelli 3 for years and when it (finally!) died, i wanted to try something different. so i bought a mionix saiph 1800 (http://www.mionix.net/) and id totally recommend it. its fast, reliable and smooth looking. it wasnt exactly cheap back when i bought mine, but back then the brand was all new

specs: http://www.mionix.net/page.php?al=1800

hires pictures: http://www.mionix.net/datas/users/saiph_1800_high_res_black_background_0.zip
Title: Re: I need a gaming mouse...
Post by: dodnet on January 26, 2012, 10:17:33 am: Logitech G5 refresh (the blue one). At first it was a bit strange because of the rough surface but I really like it.
Hmm... seems like its not produced anymore, G500 seems to be the successor.
Title: Re: I need a gaming mouse...
Post by: mustg on January 26, 2012, 10:18:53 am: http://www.logitech.com/en-us/gaming/mice-keyboard-combos/devices/gaming-mouse-g500

that's what i use and it is pretty good
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Post by: Sniger on January 26, 2012, 10:29:28 am: the 100% safe bet is the intellimouse 3. simply the best mouse ive ever had and ive had ALOT in the past 15 years :)

i belive razor and mickeysoft have made a mouse with intellimouse 3 body + razor guts.
Title: Re: I need a gaming mouse...
Post by: Zorato on January 26, 2012, 11:03:03 am: The G500

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It is basically the natural evolution of the MX 518. It is what you expect from a MX 518 but with modern features like weight cartridges and programmable buttons. Great polling rate and high DPI. You can adjust sensitivity on the fly, too. It is on sale for 47.99 @ newegg

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104318

EDIT: don't be fooled by gimmicky "gaming" mice like anything from Razer.
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Post by: EyeBeat on January 26, 2012, 12:11:11 pm: I used to use the 500. I use the G9X now. It is way better.
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Post by: Prpavi on January 26, 2012, 01:12:50 pm: G5/500, DeathAdder not the cheepest but worth the buck.
Title: Re: I need a gaming mouse...
Post by: Apsod on January 26, 2012, 01:27:34 pm: Quote from: Sagar on January 26, 2012, 08:37:03 am
IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0
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http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/p/intellimouse-explorer-3.0

They Don't Make Them Like That Anymore, but you can find it at ebay.
Hey, that`s the one I am using :o
Title: Re: I need a gaming mouse...
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on January 26, 2012, 05:01:48 pm: http://steelseries.com/products/mice/steelseries-ikari-optical (http://steelseries.com/products/mice/steelseries-ikari-optical)

Cheap, precise, and durable. Works well even after 6 years of daily exploitation. It felt a bit too light, when i first changed from G5, but i got used to it quickly. When, and IF it ever breaks, i will buy the same one again. ( i guess i am getting older, and unwilling to try new things... :) )

Using it with this mouse pad btw, and had to add 3 "gliding" thingies to the bottom of the mouse after about 1-2 years of usage:

http://steelseries.com/products/surfaces/steelseries-experience-i-2 (http://steelseries.com/products/surfaces/steelseries-experience-i-2)
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Post by: Angantyr on January 26, 2012, 05:28:36 pm: I used to really like Razer mice of which I tried a handful or so, then the Roccat Kone came out and I tried that only like so many others to have the scroll key give up on me. Then I tried Logitech mice for a bit, and though the G series has a good quality feel to it I don't think they are as good for claw and finger grip (which I prefer) as most of the Roccat and Razer mice. Then Roccat launched its improved version of the Roccat Kone (now with a '+' in the name) and like some of Roccat's other products the second generation have mostly outdone the competition in all aspects.

Roccat Kone+
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Specs (http://www.roccat.org/Products/Gaming-Mice/ROCCAT-Kone-/)
Review (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olx8BasVdTw)

Best mouse I've ever had, hands down. The quality can be felt in all the parts, nice rubber surface, good responsive keys, metal scroll key for durability, high end stats (like 6000dpi as if you'd ever want to use that much), due to its relative size and shape ergonomic for both claw, finger and palm grip, great software pack with lots of customization options (easy changing of general values, colors or macros and such), clip in weights, surface scanner and a tracking and distance control unit under the mouse.

I've put mine to extensive use for well over two years now and it's as good as the day I bought it. Been using it with the Taito (http://www.roccat.org/Products/Gaming-Mousepads/ROCCAT-Taito-Series/) mousepad.
Title: Re: I need a gaming mouse...
Post by: Burr1ck on January 26, 2012, 05:33:16 pm: Razer Diamondback.

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1600dpi, nice big comfy buttons with 4 sides buttons.
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Post by: MR_FISTA on January 26, 2012, 07:30:58 pm: Im gonna get a logitech trackman if i can find one, best mouse i ever had
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Post by: mOus333 on January 26, 2012, 07:36:21 pm: No,, U never get me!!!!
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Post by: mOus333 on January 26, 2012, 07:38:34 pm: Btw, if u looking 4 cheap &god mouse try Atech x 7.
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Post by: MeevarTheMighty on January 27, 2012, 12:23:44 am: I use an intellimouse 3.0 at the moment, but I reckon the best mouse I ever had was this one:

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It also came with a keyboard for under $10 new, but I'm not sure they're still selling them.
Title: Re: I need a gaming mouse...
Post by: Cedric_Scott on January 27, 2012, 12:40:39 am: Quote from: mustg on January 26, 2012, 10:18:53 am
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/gaming/mice-keyboard-combos/devices/gaming-mouse-g500

that's what i use and it is pretty good

I also use this, works very nice, only problem is that I use it on the arm of a recliner so I have to clean the sensor with a Q-tip every couple of days, if I don't clean it then the laser gets dusty and the cursor speed slows & becomes very inaccurate, not that big of a problem though as long as the world doesn't run out of Q-tips
Title: Re: I need a gaming mouse...
Post by: DeadlyDick on January 27, 2012, 02:45:09 am: http://cyborggaming.com/prod/rat7.htm

Best mouse ever, bought one of these and my KD ratio went through the roof.
Title: Re: I need a gaming mouse...
Post by: Rhaelys on January 27, 2012, 03:33:52 am: Quote from: Vibe on January 26, 2012, 08:19:20 am
I switched my MX518 for Razer Deathadder. Really like it, it has 2x the dpi and claw grip.

Ergonomically the best mouse I have ever used.
Title: Re: I need a gaming mouse...
Post by: micah243 on January 27, 2012, 04:07:55 am: I ended up ordering the G9X off of Newegg. From what I read it really blows anything else away in a lot of areas. Im a pretty serious gamer so its a good investment for me. I have always heard bad things about Razor mice so i have tended to stay away from them. So logitech G9X for me :) thanks all you guys for your opinions.
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Post by: Nehvar on January 27, 2012, 04:42:09 am: I use a first-gen G9 and I hate it for this game and any FPS. Both grips are bad for me and it seems to want to twist rather than move perfectly horizontally. I find that I am hooked on the scroll wheel's tilt function though; really handy.

--glad I only paid 60(30USD). [It was 60USD but after asking Logitech support about a minor issue they sent me a second one, free of charge. Haven't had cause to open the second yet.]

I'd like to give that Roccat Kone+ a try but Roccat products aren't sold in the US or Canada.
Title: Re: I need a gaming mouse...
Post by: Adalwulf on January 27, 2012, 05:39:09 am: YOU ARE ALL CRAZY! MX518 BROKEN GET ANOTHER ONE! MIGHT BE USED BUT HEY IT"S THE GOD MOUSE!
Title: Re: I need a gaming mouse...
Post by: Grumbs on January 27, 2012, 04:38:32 pm: Quote from: Adalwulf on January 27, 2012, 05:39:09 am
YOU ARE ALL CRAZY! MX518 BROKEN GET ANOTHER ONE! MIGHT BE USED BUT HEY IT"S THE GOD MOUSE!

Yep you don't need gimmicky crap on a mouse, and DPI won't make you better, in fact DPI is pretty much only needed if you have a high resolution or very high sensitivity. 400-800 is good for most people. If you look at crazy aimers in games like CS or Quake they all use 400 DPI and optical sensors

You should use a mouse that feels comfortable too, just get another mx518 or G400.

Quote from: micah243 on January 27, 2012, 04:07:55 am
I ended up ordering the G9X off of Newegg. From what I read it really blows anything else away in a lot of areas. Im a pretty serious gamer so its a good investment for me. I have always heard bad things about Razor mice so i have tended to stay away from them. So logitech G9X for me :) thanks all you guys for your opinions.

Didn't see this..G9x is much better than the G9 (better sensor), but you have to like the shape really. Its quite peculiar but if you use finger tips it might not matter. Some will love it too I suppose no matter how they hold it
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Post by: Angantyr on January 27, 2012, 04:47:54 pm: DPI is used for different things. A relatively high DPI is good for speed for example for assault players while a low DPI will make you more accurate and is good for snipers and such. But yeah, anything above 2000 is overkill.
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Post by: Rumblood on January 27, 2012, 04:48:35 pm: Adjustable size for your hand was the key feature for my choice.

R.A.T. 5

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Post by: Dezilagel on January 27, 2012, 04:56:49 pm: Quote from: Rumblood on January 27, 2012, 04:48:35 pm
Adjustable size for your hand was the key feature for my choice.

R.A.T. 5

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Looks like a transformer :?

I use the A4 Tech X-718BK X7 Oscar Optical Gaming Mouse (USB)

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Was really cheap and gets the job done
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Post by: HarunYahya on January 27, 2012, 05:08:28 pm: I use a4tech oscar 7 series 740-k laser gaming mouse .Bought it for 25 euros like 2 years ago and it still gets it's job done.
Ergonomic and comfortable design , nice DPI options , 3x(Burst fire with SKS on bf3 ^^),extra buttons etc nice and cheap.
When it gets fucked up im just going to buy a new one cuz it is really fucking cheap :lol:
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Title: Re: I need a gaming mouse...
Post by: Rumblood on January 27, 2012, 09:16:59 pm: Quote from: Dezilagel on January 27, 2012, 04:56:49 pm
Looks like a transformer :?

Exactly! It does transform to fit your hand. It's also weighted and you can adjust that as well. 4000 dpi is plenty for me. It is a little pricy, but I use my mouse more than I use my shoes. I can pay at least as much for it :lol:
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Post by: micah243 on January 28, 2012, 08:13:44 am: Got my G9X in today! gotta say it is pretty badass :). It takes some getting used to but ive been playing with it for lilke 45 minutes and im almost adjusted. Playing with dpi set to 5000 by the way :P. I do not know how anyoneeeee could use 400 or 800 for anything. 5000 is basically instant. I admit takes a sec to get used to but now I pretty much have it figured out. So definetly give the G9X 2 thumbs up, just got to get used to the shape and sensitivity first.
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Post by: Kafein on January 28, 2012, 12:37:55 pm: Quote from: Angantyr on January 27, 2012, 04:47:54 pm
DPI is used for different things. A relatively high DPI is good for speed for example for assault players while a low DPI will make you more accurate and is good for snipers and such. But yeah, anything above 2000 is overkill.

That is true if you can't change your sensitivity settings. DPI both makes your mouse more sensitive and more accurate. The trick is to increase DPI and decrease the sensitivity scale as much as possible, to get the most accurate settings without being over sensitive.
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Post by: Chagan_Arslan on January 28, 2012, 12:54:42 pm: Quote from: Sagar on January 26, 2012, 08:37:03 am
IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0
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http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/p/intellimouse-explorer-3.0

They Don't Make Them Like That Anymore, but you can find it at ebay.

this
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Post by: Grumbs on January 28, 2012, 01:42:50 pm: Quote from: Kafein on January 28, 2012, 12:37:55 pm
That is true if you can't change your sensitivity settings. DPI both makes your mouse more sensitive and more accurate. The trick is to increase DPI and decrease the sensitivity scale as much as possible, to get the most accurate settings without being over sensitive.

You can set the DPI to max and you won't skip pixels, but its not quite right that you make the mouse more accurate with higher DPI. Increasing DPI can make it less accurate in some ways. If you want 1:1 input/output you want to have no negative acceleration and for the sensor to be working at its optimal setting. Usually thats at its lowest DPI. The monitor is made up of pixels, and as long as you don't skip over them you have enough DPI on the mouse. Each mouse has a malfunction speed, and increasing the DPI lowers the speed you can move it at while still getting 1:1 response (so your movements are accurately represented in game)

DPI is a lot of BS really, just use what you like in windows but don't get sucked into the marketing side of it. You can work out how much DPI you might benefit from with a formula, here: http://www.esreality.com/?a=longpost&id=1265679&page=2 . Its still not really that important even if you do skip pixels imo. You can just set to max if you want but that can come with other issues, especially if the sensor isn't that good, and especially with laser mice

This is quite beyond what a normal user needs to care about though lol. Just use what you like in windows imo and forget about DPI