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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Lagkill on January 05, 2011, 03:55:16 am

Title: A startling development (the naked losers event)
Post by: Lagkill on January 05, 2011, 03:55:16 am
I've noticed something as I'm playing on EU_1. It seems as my team keeps losing, the players on it can no longer afford to upkeep their arms and armor, and since we've all been good little doobies and sold off our noob gear most of us are SOL in the short term. Every round more and more of my team spawns naked, and the opposing team still has all their gear. We're stuck in a losing spiral because of it. QQ
Title: Re: A startling development (the naked losers event)
Post by: Amadeo on January 05, 2011, 04:05:12 am
Gear breaks that quickly?
Title: Re: A startling development (the naked losers event)
Post by: Lagkill on January 05, 2011, 04:07:24 am
Theres a chance every time you lose. I've noticed that at least one thing breaks every lost round.
Title: Re: A startling development (the naked losers event)
Post by: Tungsten on January 05, 2011, 04:09:28 am
Lost a round. 4k repair on Transitional. and then I somehow lost another 4k a little later when I only had leather and a spiked mace on.
Title: Re: A startling development (the naked losers event)
Post by: Amadeo on January 05, 2011, 04:15:44 am
I'm going to take a break from CRPG for a few days and hope they get this worked out.

I get errors when i hit "C" to set my char, don't show gear/gold half the time, lost half my levels and get kicked at the end of every round. I hoping 90% of this is growing (patch) pains.
Title: Re: A startling development (the naked losers event)
Post by: Salamol on January 05, 2011, 04:23:54 am
Yes... I'm there too!

I think the repair feature needs some fine tuning.

The gold and xp is earned quicker now, but the cost of weapon upkeep is too much.

Possible solutions... either decrease the repair costs(preferred choice) or increase the amount of gold you receive (constantly making numbers higher is probably not the best choice as you would have to increase all buy prices too.

As it stands there is going to be a middle ground of armor/weapons which allows the player to gain on average as much as he loses.
Title: Re: A startling development (the naked losers event)
Post by: Lagkill on January 05, 2011, 04:30:11 am
I think most of the frustration comes from the fact that you have no real control over it. If you're a great player who gets stuck on a crummy team you're doomed to pay for it.
Title: Re: A startling development (the naked losers event)
Post by: Amadeo on January 05, 2011, 04:31:59 am
Ya, not sure it is ever a good idea to punish players of a game for things outside their control.

At least if it only happened when you died you could be that much more excited when to actually survive =)
Title: Re: A startling development (the naked losers event)
Post by: AirPhforce on January 05, 2011, 07:09:53 am
I equipped my crossbow for one round, naked otherwise. We lost, it broke, and I lost more money then I gained in the last several rounds.

So I'm back to throwing rocks in robes and wondering what the point of this mod is.
Title: Re: A startling development (the naked losers event)
Post by: rizlan on January 05, 2011, 07:21:16 am
thought i'd try my HA and see what archery was like with new patch before i qq'd it.  my horse was too high riding for me to get now with level so i was already grounded....i only wear basic armor on him anyhow (steppe robe type stuff) only good gear is the khergit bow...which promptly became a bent khergit bow after one round.  trying to use bows feels like swimming in molasses now.  yeah things were out of whack somewhat before patch..but at least i had fun.  now i don't know if i'll bother with crpg in the state it's at now.  i had just purchased some stuff before the patch and had very little gold today (1400) and after 2 rounds i'm negative gold.  easier to earn gold eh?  forget that.  back to native for me i guess. :(  i'll miss you old school crpg.
Title: Re: A startling development (the naked losers event)
Post by: Snapalope on January 05, 2011, 09:14:12 am
This is such an easy thing to foresee I do not understand how the dev team missed it.  I got caught on losing streaks too, and more and more people including me spawned naked.  It took like 1000 gold to repair a barmace WTF is that.
Title: Re: A startling development (the naked losers event)
Post by: FICO on January 05, 2011, 09:33:02 am
why rant? before it could be seen as if you have to die non-stop till you get enough money to be a tank. now you have to win and to get gold transferred from strategus to keep your equipment in top state. during medieval only about 3% people could afford plate armour and top gear. massive cavalry attack are seen only on movies. so get cheaper gear and use it. if you see that you got into bad team, get with your teammates into heavier gear and try to win.
don't fancy teamwork? too bad - miloš dead  :lol:
Title: Re: A startling development (the naked losers event)
Post by: Freland on January 05, 2011, 09:48:03 am
I'm pretty sure upkeep will be looked at very closely the next days by the devs. Keep in mind that during beta there were 20 people on the server at most. Not everything could be tested perfectly.
Title: Re: A startling development (the naked losers event)
Post by: Verney on January 05, 2011, 09:58:46 am
Sad, I was actually enjoying the changes (initially) done by this mod. New changes push the mod off the cliff called fun -- at least for me.

Well... on to something else.
Title: Re: A startling development (the naked losers event)
Post by: LLJK_Korea1 on January 05, 2011, 10:21:00 am
why rant? before it could be seen as if you have to die non-stop till you get enough money to be a tank. now you have to win and to get gold transferred from strategus to keep your equipment in top state. during medieval only about 3% people could afford plate armour and top gear. massive cavalry attack are seen only on movies. so get cheaper gear and use it. if you see that you got into bad team, get with your teammates into heavier gear and try to win.
don't fancy teamwork? too bad - miloš dead  :lol:

ffs don't bring that "WELL IN YE OLDE TIMES PPL USED TO BUILD HOUSES FROM MUD AND THROW ROCKS" in this conversation. I got caught with losing team 7 matches in a row last night and the repair bill of my modest, speed-focused gear was almost astronomical.
Title: Re: A startling development (the naked losers event)
Post by: Gorath on January 05, 2011, 10:23:14 am
ffs don't bring that "WELL IN YE OLDE TIMES PPL USED TO BUILD HOUSES FROM MUD AND THROW ROCKS" in this conversation. I got caught with losing team 7 matches in a row last night and the repair bill of my modest, speed-focused gear was almost astronomical.

Working as intended.
Title: Re: A startling development (the naked losers event)
Post by: LLJK_Korea1 on January 05, 2011, 10:25:05 am
Working as intended.

Gorath pls stop being such a bundle of sticks.
Title: Re: A startling development (the naked losers event)
Post by: StanleyPain on January 05, 2011, 10:29:16 am
why rant? before it could be seen as if you have to die non-stop till you get enough money to be a tank. now you have to win and to get gold transferred from strategus to keep your equipment in top state. during medieval only about 3% people could afford plate armour and top gear. massive cavalry attack are seen only on movies. so get cheaper gear and use it. if you see that you got into bad team, get with your teammates into heavier gear and try to win.
don't fancy teamwork? too bad - miloš dead  :lol:

So what you're telling me is that a Kheg bow + bodkin arrow + studded leather should set someone back 3k gold if they all break at once? This is a cheap as one can get and still be somewhat effective as an archer.
Title: Re: A startling development (the naked losers event)
Post by: Gorath on January 05, 2011, 10:30:22 am
Gorath pls stop being such a bundle of sticks.

umad?
y so srs?
Title: Re: A startling development (the naked losers event)
Post by: StanleyPain on January 05, 2011, 10:36:37 am
Go back to 4chan Gorath, I hear anonymous needs their gimp back  :arrow:

I don't think I've seen a post by you that wasn't some tripe and unfunny Internet meme.
Title: Re: A startling development (the naked losers event)
Post by: JesseGreen on January 05, 2011, 11:27:36 am
this aint the goddamn dark ages, this is a computer game, and it used to be a pretty fun one.
Title: Re: A startling development (the naked losers event)
Post by: Verney on January 05, 2011, 11:40:36 am
I also fail to see the reason for achieving anything in cRPG, be it LVLs or equipment. You'll eventually just have more to lose at the next reset.
Title: Re: A startling development (the naked losers event)
Post by: Gorath on January 05, 2011, 11:45:42 am
Gorath pls stop being such a bundle of sticks.

If you stop breathing.  Deal?  No?  Aw.

I don't think I've seen a post by you that wasn't some tripe and unfunny Internet meme.

That's ok, you're new.
Title: Re: A startling development (the naked losers event)
Post by: FICO on January 05, 2011, 11:46:24 am
this aint the goddamn dark ages, this is a computer game, and it used to be a pretty fun one.
they use mostly dark age weaponry
Title: Re: A startling development (the naked losers event)
Post by: Cyber on January 05, 2011, 11:49:40 am
Imo the repair costs are fine. Since patch i have been using medium gear (total cost around 17k) and with around 2-3 hours playtime i have earned 3k, and this is the way it should be, not being able to upkeep some expensive mail/plate etc all the time.

Just my opinion.
Title: Re: A startling development (the naked losers event)
Post by: Spawny on January 05, 2011, 12:13:43 pm
Medium gear...

I hit 17k with just my 1h sword and huscarl shield.
Always nice to see my Masterwork Long espada eslavona costing 11.5k gold alone. Add 6.5k for a huscarl and I can use that, but I can't afford any armour.

Nice.

Bye bye
Title: Re: A startling development (the naked losers event)
Post by: Blondin on January 05, 2011, 01:52:23 pm
Medium gear...

I hit 17k with just my 1h sword and huscarl shield.
Always nice to see my Masterwork Long espada eslavona costing 11.5k gold alone. Add 6.5k for a huscarl and I can use that, but I can't afford any armour.

This is not medium gear, masterwork was never medium and huscarl is one of the best shield.
You will have to downgrade your equipment for something cheaper.
Title: Re: A startling development (the naked losers event)
Post by: Salamol on January 05, 2011, 02:04:12 pm
This is not medium gear, masterwork was never medium and huscarl is one of the best shield.
You will have to downgrade your equipment for something cheaper.

The problem is that this is what everyone will do in the end. 70% of people will have the same armor/weapons (there will be differences of course, but there will be many people in the same gear) 20% will be peasants to gain money, 10% will have been peasants previously to gain money and will now have nice armor/weapons for a few rounds.

The 70% will be in a happy medium where, on average, they make as much as they spend on repairs. This may have been the plan that chadz had in mind as people will now have multiple sets of gear which they change depending on the way the battles are going.
Title: Re: A startling development (the naked losers event)
Post by: Eibhlin on June 07, 2019, 07:30:55 am
2011?