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cRPG => Beginner's Help and Guides => Topic started by: Christo on January 22, 2012, 12:24:31 am
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King of speed in the old days, with it's stock 50.
However, now it's only 46, and other more armoured, stronger horses have only a bit less.
Like the Destrier's 42.
Will that 4 speed decide battles for you? 50 did, but I doubt a difference of four would.
I don't really see it reasonable to use that paper horse these days, or am I wrong?
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I like your topic title.
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Because? :)
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Courser does still worth it less so than has been done before
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'Does the Courser still worth it?'
That doesn't make you think about the correctness of the sentence?
Ah well, I'm just nitpicking
Ontopic:
The courser used to be kind of a no brainer, now its more balanced and all the horses have their specific strengths and weaknesses. None is clearly superior to the other. It's really just a matter of personal preference now instead of overpoweredness. I think the courser is still a great choice because it has decent charge/armour/hitpoints and still superior speed.
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Ah you're right.
Proper grammar isn't my first priority when under ze booze. :P
I might've failed the title again, but I don't care. :D
Just thinking because I might roll my good old 18/18 lancer polearmer guy to boom 'n zoom a little bit.
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courser is the hit and run horse, zoom in zoom out dont stop, take em by surprise
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Christo. NO. pls.
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courser is the hit and run horse, zoom in zoom out dont stop, take em by surprise
Just like a fighter, which is why I love it.
The Arabian Warhorse (The grey one, not sure if I got the name right) is ridiculous when champion...-ized. I may eventually switch to it, but for now, I'm sticking with my Courser.
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Christo. NO. pls.
:twisted:
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Only peasants an girlymen ride courser´s an Arab circus horses.... :?
Real men/knights ride on large warhorses :lol:
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Don't use a Courser. It's maneuver is crap. You'll spend 80% of your time trying to figure out how to take enemies by surprise rather than actually killing them (that is, by surprise or not). You'll have an hard time killing any aware infantry/ranged with more than 2 athletics. And the worst thing you could do is to try the Arab. Especially when loomed, you will get used to the superior maneuver in no time and be totally helpless when using other horses. It's a bit like if you were supposed to hit scooter, had a family wagon and suddenly be thrown and have to pilot a 60T truck. I'm serious. The freedom of high maneuver is a drug.
Go rouncey, destrier, cataphract or mamluk.
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I use the large warhorse for the 40 maneuverability, I think an agile horse is going to save your skin a bit more then a fast one depending on what kind of situation you get yourself in. It's one point slower than the rouncey but hardier. The courser's speed does allow you a smaller window of being heard I think, Huey's horse and other champion coursers have been on top of me before I even had a chance to react to the hooves. The equipment in this game generally comes down to comfort more then stats, for me anyway.
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Only peasants an girlymen ride courser´s an Arab circus horses.... :?
Real men/knights ride on large warhorses :lol:
real men use a champion warhorse
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Courser is epic fun, lot of times i get even aware people down just cause i close in so fucking fast, with champion one that is. Arab is cool for tighter areas, but is squishy as hell.
I go for courser on sarranid or plain maps, on others i pick horse depending on mood and terrain, or i go by feet
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I love courser.
Loomed x2 or x3 imo is best.
Courser is the only horse that people might not hear quickly enough for them to react to a backstab if they arent paying attention.
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Good horse but I don't like it. I like arabian for good maneuver. Suits my playstyle better. I often find myself in trouble with train-like courser.
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Leed and Torben both use champion coursers... Coursers are definately worth it
To elaborate.
Coursers are not so much designed for cavalry combat as they are striking infantry, both forementioned players know this and if given the choice will usually attack engaged infantry over cavalry.
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champ courser, you will love that speed!!!!! uberfastfuncouchbeforeenemywillfiguroutwhathappened!!!!!!
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Don't use a Courser. It's maneuver is crap. You'll spend 80% of your time trying to figure out how to take enemies by surprise rather than actually killing them (that is, by surprise or not). You'll have an hard time killing any aware infantry/ranged with more than 2 athletics. And the worst thing you could do is to try the Arab. Especially when loomed, you will get used to the superior maneuver in no time and be totally helpless when using other horses. It's a bit like if you were supposed to hit scooter, had a family wagon and suddenly be thrown and have to pilot a 60T truck. I'm serious. The freedom of high maneuver is a drug.
Go rouncey, destrier, cataphract or mamluk.
Y U NO SUGGESTED WARHORSES :O
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Coursers are not so much designed for cavalry combat as they are backstabbing peasants and idle infantry at spawn.
Corrected.
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Corrected.
ye sorry my bad :)
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courser compensates my 5 ps
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Ah you're right.
Proper grammar isn't my first priority when under ze booze. :P
I might've failed the title again, but I don't care. :D
Just thinking because I might roll my good old 18/18 lancer polearmer guy to boom 'n zoom a little bit.
Personally I like the courser for only one reason, it's the best when you have to worry about other cavalry. It's nice for infantry/ground troops only because sometimes by the time they notice me and my lance thrusting it's too late for them to do anything. Lots of times I've hit an archer before he could release an arrow due to the speed, or even more so, they only get one shot off before I'm in their face.
I personally like the speed and prefer to "try not to get hit" by projectiles, and I try not to ride into groups of enemies who are aware of me and have long pointy sticks. It's basically a "hit and run" or pick off the weak links along the outskirts, type of horse.
I still really like the destrier when going up against ground troops, and if you get a champion destrier they are really nice. But spirited coursers are 47 speed (which I have) and champion coursers are 48 speed I believe. I have 110hp on my horse, vs the 100 on the normal courser. It's only 10 less than the destrier I believe (the spirited). Still, the main reason I like my courser is because I don't like to worry about other cavalry being able to outrun me. Even though I generally try not to engage other cavalry unless it's needed, I usually end up doing it more than I should.
Also, 18/18 is my favorite build for cavalry at level 30 (if you're using a courser, if not, then only go 15 agility).
This is what I will have for skills (after converting 2 to attributes):
2 Iron flesh
6 power strike
4 shield
5 athletics
6 riding
6 weapon master
P.S. This only gives me 60 hp I believe, at 15 strength and 5 iron flesh I was at 63 hp I believe. But at 15/18 build I was able to max out the skills above, now I want 6 power strike.
Leed and Torben both use champion coursers... Coursers are definately worth it
To elaborate.
Coursers are not so much designed for cavalry combat as they are striking infantry, both forementioned players know this and if given the choice will usually attack engaged infantry over cavalry.
I think coursers best use is for anti-cavalry due to the speed. Although I think most cavalry is best used when flanking infantry who are fighting your own infantry. Attacking other cavalry should mainly be used as a deterrent for them coming at your ground troops, and you mainly should be trying to dismount them, not necessarily trying to kill them (depends on the situation of course).
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Lorenzo got it right.
2 cav of same skill engaging each other from an equal favorable position, one arab, one courser, the arab has an edge due to higher maneuver and acceleration.
vs infantry, they are both equally usefull, with different approaches ofc.
In the end the courser can take a few more shots, and i use it because of them HAs, the arab gives you the chance of a more direct approach, which can be more fun than high speed battlefield surfing, diving in and out of unseen angles.
I would say they are well balanced and a thing of personal preference or restriction by your build
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I still disagree, I'm usually traveling at top speed and arabian's may be able to out-turn me, but they can never catch me. And it's not like this is WWII, unless they are horse archers (which I'm not worried about engaging head to head), they don't have machine guns that can shoot me when they get behind me, they still need to catch up to me.
When I'm lower levels and can only ride a saddle horse or palfrey I try to make sure I never over-extend myself where a courser can chase me down before I can get back to my friendly ground troops. I never worry about an arabian war horse (more than any other horse), but obviously I recognize not to get into a turning match with them.
And on a courser you can just slow down to turn faster. Not to mention I would never want to have 21 agility, I'd be really hurting in other areas, and would basically be restricted to cavalry (instead of being able to hybrid).
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And the worst thing you could do is to try the Arab. Especially when loomed, you will get used to the superior maneuver in no time and be totally helpless when using other horses. The freedom of high maneuver is a drug.
This. I didn't have enough riding for a long time for my champ arab.. but now.. oh god I've relapsed. With its maneveur/acceleration if someone is chasing me I can do a turn and charge into them before they're able to even release their lance. It's beautiful.
And @crazycracka you can hybrid perfectly fine with 21 agi. Not sure where you're coming from there.
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@crazy thing is, you dont wanna run from them, you wanna fight them. or what is this about?