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Title: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Joker86 on January 19, 2012, 11:38:25 pm
The title says everything. I don't want to discuss anything big, just have a survey about the general community opinion.

Edit: I predict a triangle showing to the right  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Leshma on January 19, 2012, 11:42:21 pm
Well, compared to before they seem really weak. But I look differently at it. They had way too much fun trolling everyone from unreachable rooftops and such. Make 'em suffer for awhile.

Also, for crying out loud give 'em melee capabilities...
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Brrrak on January 19, 2012, 11:45:41 pm
The title says everything. I don't want to discuss anything big, just have a survey about the general community opinion.

Edit: I predict a triangle showing to the right  :mrgreen:

It looks more like a pagoda right now.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: LastKaze on January 19, 2012, 11:46:32 pm
So melee has been crying for the past year about ranged, now it is time for us to whine over a patch that never should have happened. Devs fail at trying to interpret the truth, they only take the side of those shittys who rush the enemy team thinking they won't get shot.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Tzar on January 19, 2012, 11:48:23 pm
U miss a option saying  :arrow: I dont give a flying fuck
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Joker86 on January 19, 2012, 11:51:37 pm
U miss a option saying  :arrow: I dont give a flying fuck

It's like voting in reality. If you don't give a flying fuck, don't enter the election office.  :P
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Tzar on January 19, 2012, 11:54:29 pm
It's like voting in reality. If you don't give a flying fuck, don't enter the election office.  :P

I voted 1
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Mala on January 19, 2012, 11:54:51 pm
There was an archer nerf?
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Joker86 on January 19, 2012, 11:59:22 pm
I voted 1

Good choice. Good choice.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Penitent on January 20, 2012, 12:35:55 am
Not needed.  Did anyone fear ranged before the nerf?  Was it ever like "oh shit!  My enemy has got a ranged weapon!"  No...these weapons were never known for their battlefield prowess.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: bonekuukkeli on January 20, 2012, 12:46:59 am
Never had problem with ranged. It's nice to see roofcamping gone though, but I still would love to have ladders back in some form or another.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Overdriven on January 20, 2012, 01:00:23 am
Because the I'm not ranged/ranged options were so needed.

Interesting that so far the not ranged, no nerf needed option is highest.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Joker86 on January 20, 2012, 01:02:37 am
It was simply to make possible (!) bias visible.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Leesin on January 20, 2012, 01:04:29 am
I am human and I think Joker86 is a twat.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Malaclypse on January 20, 2012, 01:04:41 am
As someone who doesn't wear heavy armor (body armor under 36 for like, ten gens here), I did notice ranged. A lot. I'm glad I don't die in two body shots anymore, but think the nerf is too extreme.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Boerenlater on January 20, 2012, 01:07:12 am
As someone who doesn't wear heavy armor (body armor under 36 for like, ten gens here), I did notice ranged. A lot. I'm glad I don't die in two body shots anymore, but think the nerf is too extreme.
I agree.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: MrShine on January 20, 2012, 01:16:43 am
We all know what this poll is going to show.

I voted option 6 because I've been melee the last few gens, but if there were options for stating "I've played both" I would have voted there (and so would a bunch of people I bet).
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: _Tak_ on January 20, 2012, 01:19:29 am
I think the archery nerf was good because if you wear full plate armour you can take up to 20 shots before getting kill. I have tested this myself
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Joker86 on January 20, 2012, 01:20:09 am
I am human and I think Joker86 is a twat.

Quote from: Mylet
•Be polite, keep the cursing to a minimum; adding insults to your arguments does not make them better.

 :cry:
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Leesin on January 20, 2012, 01:21:54 am
it wasn't an argument, it was a fact.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Dom.Miguel on January 20, 2012, 06:47:52 am
I think the archery nerf was good because if you wear full plate armour you can take up to 20 shots before getting kill. I have tested this myself
Balance!
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Peasant_Woman on January 20, 2012, 06:59:22 am
When the last arrow flies, when dedicated xbows stop taking xbows and when throwers can't hit a castle wall from 15ft away then the game will turn into melee circlejerk with some losers still clinging to gimped cav.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: BlackMilk on January 20, 2012, 07:18:06 am
How was ranged nerfed btw
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: bagge on January 20, 2012, 07:18:23 am
I think the archery nerf was good because if you wear full plate armour you can take up to 20 shots before getting kill. I have tested this myself

Did they throw the arrows at you?
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Gisbert_of_Thuringia on January 20, 2012, 08:52:02 am
Did they throw the arrows at you?

Just don't listen to him...he has tested everything in reallife, everytime something is being discussed  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Vibe on January 20, 2012, 09:09:34 am
fuck archers
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Thovex on January 20, 2012, 09:11:08 am
I was a melee with Lordly Rus Scale and I got 2-3 shot usually.

Now arrows bounce off me and I hardly have IF.

So I bought a MW Horn Bow and became archer, it is definitly a bit too extreme.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Gisbert_of_Thuringia on January 20, 2012, 09:28:26 am

Now arrows bounce off me and I hardly have IF.

So I bought a MW Horn Bow and became archer, it is definitly a bit too extreme.

Jup. A nerf would have been ok, but not a nerf making bodyshots totally useless. Something like maybe 20% dmg reduction to test it out first instead of almost 40%
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Vibe on January 20, 2012, 09:31:12 am
Jup. A nerf would have been ok, but not a nerf making bodyshots totally useless. Something like maybe 20% dmg reduction to test it out first instead of almost 40%

As much as I hate archers I kind of agree. Keep the change but reduce it's effects. Don't know what value it's set to now but something like this could work:

40% damage reduction to limbs
20% damage reduction to body
30% damage increase to head
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Brrrak on January 20, 2012, 09:38:32 am
As much as I hate archers I kind of agree. Keep the change but reduce it's effects. Don't know what value it's set to now but something like this could work:

40% damage reduction to limbs
20% damage reduction to body
30% damage increase to head

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Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Vibe on January 20, 2012, 09:46:03 am
(click to show/hide)

Probably not possible with this engine. Just my guess though.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Adamar on January 20, 2012, 09:59:09 am
Beeing shot in any vital organ should kill...

As I observed before the patch, archers had a pretty low kill count when comparing to the other classes. instead of increasing damage, or something to fix that, they chose to decrease it. I dont know how the other guys are handeling it, but my char at least is doing way worse now.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Duke on January 20, 2012, 10:02:45 am
I find it disturbing that 36% of the pollers feel this nerf is fine.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Vibe on January 20, 2012, 10:08:41 am
I find it disturbing that 36% of the pollers feel this nerf is fine.

Biased melee classes, nothing strange to be honest?
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Brrrak on January 20, 2012, 10:15:56 am
Beeing shot in any vital organ should kill...

As I observed before the patch, archers had a pretty low kill count when comparing to the other classes. instead of increasing damage, or something to fix that, they chose to decrease it. I dont know how the other guys are handeling it, but my char at least is doing way worse now.

Archers do not need to have a high kill count (they should have a high assist count, but high kill count is icing on the cake).  In fact, no class needs a high kill count, even those that are the "big killers" on the battlefield.  That said, this ranged change was a bit of a throw from left field imo.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Leshma on January 20, 2012, 02:36:56 pm
Battle mode is the reason why people qq over k/d.

Battle needs serious reconstruction, it should be made more like rageball where you can have as high k/d as you want but it will mean nothing because it's the teamplay that matters not k/d.

Bring more teamplay in battle. If it's not possible completely remove it and implement new mod instead of it (like domination). Why I'm saying to remove it? Well people are dumb fucks and will never start playing other modes if you don't remove the lamest mod this game has to offer.

Currently rageball is superior mod compared to battle. We need more modes with similar idea, modes with respawn points.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: karasu on January 20, 2012, 02:39:04 pm
Battle needs serious reconstruction, it should be made more like rageball where you can have as high k/d as you want but it will mean nothing because it's the teamplay that matters not k/d.

T'was called Siege Mode.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: MrShine on January 20, 2012, 04:20:19 pm
Battle mode is the reason why people qq over k/d.

Battle needs serious reconstruction, it should be made more like rageball where you can have as high k/d as you want but it will mean nothing because it's the teamplay that matters not k/d.

Bring more teamplay in battle. If it's not possible completely remove it and implement new mod instead of it (like domination). Why I'm saying to remove it? Well people are dumb fucks and will never start playing other modes if you don't remove the lamest mod this game has to offer.

Currently rageball is superior mod compared to battle. We need more modes with similar idea, modes with respawn points.

Well if rageball can change the scoring system, is there a way to add 'damage dealt' as the primary sorting feature for battle?  That would be pretty awesome, and would also help a lot more in determining balance.  As long as it took the total damage the player ended up doing... not say 300 damage for an arbalest headshot when the target only had 40 hp left or something...
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: bonekuukkeli on January 21, 2012, 04:27:28 pm
So it's currently 43 of 128 votes saying nerf was great and most are saying that it was too extreme or not needed at all.

I can smell some bad melee players here.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Leshma on January 21, 2012, 04:30:03 pm
Well I admit that I'm bad at melee but you're no better :D
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Kafein on January 21, 2012, 04:31:56 pm
I would personally not take the "I'm ranged/I'm melee" part of the poll seriously. I'm even surprised that there aren't more

"I'm melee and I don't like the nerf" or "I'm ranged and I like it" vote. Obviously at least a part of those votes are done by people that aren't what they claim to be.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Cepeshi on January 21, 2012, 04:34:11 pm
To be hones, first map after the patch i played, i saw few archers top the scoreboards, i know it doesnt matter, but how the fuck should i find out that some nerf has happened when it clearly doesnt look like it?  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: bonekuukkeli on January 21, 2012, 04:41:21 pm
Well I admit that I'm bad at melee but you're no better :D

Never had problem with cavs or ranged and never whined about those. And I admit, I'm really bad. So those whining must be something horrible against ranged.

Also...

When only headshots deal any real damage, it means that you need quite high wpf invested to make those.... and that means it's again bad for hybrids. And then we whine that archers run and dont come in melee range.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Bongo Fury on January 21, 2012, 04:48:22 pm
Battle mode is the reason why people qq over k/d.

Battle needs serious reconstruction, it should be made more like rageball where you can have as high k/d as you want but it will mean nothing because it's the teamplay that matters not k/d.

Bring more teamplay in battle. If it's not possible completely remove it and implement new mod instead of it (like domination). Why I'm saying to remove it? Well people are dumb fucks and will never start playing other modes if you don't remove the lamest mod this game has to offer.

Currently rageball is superior mod compared to battle. We need more modes with similar idea, modes with respawn points.

This +100

Battle needs a shakeup.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Viridian on January 21, 2012, 05:34:21 pm
I've pretty much only played pure melee in cRPG, and I think the nerf wasn't necessary.

The problem wasn't that archers individually did too much damage, the problem was that in some cases, there were too many archers, and not enough shielders to compensate for all of the ranged fire, since cRPG (at least in NA1) seems to be very 2H/Polearm dominant.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Gravoth_iii on January 21, 2012, 06:03:05 pm
I'm melee and imo it was a buff to archery, i pretty much never died to archery before this patch maybe sometimes to very good archers but i could pretty much take alot of arrows or just block them with my shield. Now that they got the buff i actually die to lucky headshots from time to time, but i dont mind. Imo it should only be changed on archery but xbows should have the previous damage system as arbalest seems to be pretty damn weak now.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: MadJackMcMad on January 21, 2012, 06:03:56 pm
U miss a option saying  :arrow: I dont give a flying fuck

Yet you post in every thread regarding it.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Turkhammer on January 21, 2012, 06:20:53 pm
Not needed.  Did anyone fear ranged before the nerf?  Was it ever like "oh shit!  My enemy has got a ranged weapon!"  No...these weapons were never known for their battlefield prowess.

Exactly.  Finally the voice of reason.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: LastKaze on January 21, 2012, 06:33:19 pm
Instead of nerfing the damage done by arbalests, I suggest that all xbows should be "Can't be used on horseback" that way we can finally remove those trolling xbow cavs, and all xbows should be 2 slots except for the hunting crossbow. Also before the patch you could already 1 shot kill people in the head with an arbalest, this patch was a fail and had no thinking behind it.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: copper on January 21, 2012, 08:14:27 pm
The problem with nerfing ranged like this is that archery is a specialization. You need to pour all of your WPF into archery to be effective at it. People bitch about archers running away, but that's because they don't generally have any PS or WPF in a melee weapon. Now, not only are you ineffectual at melee, but the one thing you're supposed to be good at is fucked. This patch makes hybrid archer classes entirely useless. Not only is the damage nerfed, but they changed the mechanics; I notice a LOT of arrows going through guys and seemingly missing the hitbox. Finally, how can you nerf something this badly and still give archers the same amount of ammo? Anything but bodkins are now essentially useless and you don't get very many of them. I could exhaust an entire quiver of masterworked regular arrows taking down a guy in heavy armor. If they don't want archery to be part of the game they should just remove it.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on January 21, 2012, 08:16:25 pm
I think with the newest changes, archers need to focus on different targets, such as light cavalry and infantry. Different role. As far as the other range classes, I dunno.

Part of me is happy that Gothic Plate actually is worth a damn against arrows.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: SixThumbs on January 21, 2012, 08:18:14 pm
After this patch I pretty much just ignore ranged unless I'm not wearing my heavy armor or I have 1/20 of my health left.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: WSC_Sorokopud on January 21, 2012, 10:11:09 pm
I always played an infantry shielder and i think that New archery nerf just made game unrealistic. Too unrealistic!!!
Arbalest with its slow reload time should kill from 1 or 2 bolts. And arrows are now like a toothpicks in mine armor.
But Bodkin arrows were invented specially to penetrate
plated armours, but they don't, unfortunately.
Mail armour should be penetrated by all types of arrows because all impulse from an arrow goes to 1 ring....

Anyway Arrows, Spears and Shields were the main power in all kind of battles in history.

The thing that must be nerfed are 2handed swords, they cost too low.
I use to fight in a real life with medieval kind of weapons and i know what i'm saying.
Dont you think it is stupid when everyone uses 2handed weapon on the battlefield?
People must be afraid of arrows and try to cover behind shields.

Unfortunately not everyone likes to play Strategus for which this patch was made. A lot of people just love cRPG. And it is terrible when some classes are being nerfed to be a supporting class. Archers always were the great power on the battlefield in history.

So many 2handers look too unrealistic, especially 2handed swords, as it was a weapon of Knights and Officers to use mainly on tournaments. Pike and a halberd is an infantry weapon. So i think price on 2handed swords must be a lot higher.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on January 21, 2012, 10:16:24 pm
I always played an infantry shielder and i think that New archery nerf just made game unrealistic. Too unrealistic!!!

Long bows with bodkins had problems penetrating plate unless within 20 yards, and even then had lackluster performance.

Anyway Arrows, Spears and Shields were the main power in all kind of battles in history.

In what time period? 1150? Sure. 1450? Not the coldest chance in hell. From 1300-1400 and forward warfare changed drastically in what was used. Pikes were dominant, heavy armour was normal, and shields fell to the wayside for two handed weaponry. Crossbows, though outlawed by the Catholic Church for use against Christans, were rather popular especially in the Italian regions as time progressed. As Feudal armies owned by lords were quickly replaced by Armies of the State, shields were pretty much uncommon or simply rare.

In the renaissance, the "medieval" period was renamed the dark ages to try and promote some sort of propaganda in how "great" society had become, and polluted further tales, making Knights all use swords and shields and shiny plate even before they had it, use exaggerated codes of chivalry, and even corrupted tales with nonsense (such as the fabrication of Sir Lancelot, who was not part of the original tales of King Arthur).

You will find that proper medieval warfare evolved quickly, and is not at all what the renaissance nor what Hollywood has portrayed it to be.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: WSC_Sorokopud on January 21, 2012, 10:27:59 pm
Please dont forget about a fact that heavy plated armor was too expensive. But now in this mod even mail armour or fucking Kuyaks are not being penetrated by bodkins...

And also, if Xbow was outlawed for a short period of time in history, should it be Nerfed and be so unrealistic in game?
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Idzo on January 21, 2012, 10:50:32 pm
All I'm gonna say bout this thread is that good archers still topping scoreboards...

"Nerf" just splited good archers from shitty spammers!

Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on January 21, 2012, 10:53:41 pm
"Nerf" just splited good archers from shitty spammers!
Now if we could only do the same for melee and cav.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Idzo on January 21, 2012, 11:05:44 pm
Now if we could only do the same for melee and cav.

They are separated on field...
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Chagan_Arslan on January 21, 2012, 11:21:33 pm
Now if we could only do the same for melee and cav.

i heard that lance angle nerf was suppose to keep good cav from bad, at least it was one of the reasons for it, that it increased skill needed
outside of the most obvious realism argument that horseman's spine couldnt handle hits on that angle!

so lets norrow it down to melee ;p
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Duke on January 22, 2012, 01:42:27 am
Archers do not need to have a high kill count (they should have a high assist count
Call me when someone actually adds an assist count to this game.
(believe me, I really wish there were one).
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: SixThumbs on January 22, 2012, 05:26:38 am
So high scorers can have a larger kill count and assist count and make others look even worse?
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Zerran on January 22, 2012, 05:45:05 am
(click to show/hide)

+10000
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on January 22, 2012, 01:28:24 pm
In the renaissance, the "medieval" period was renamed the dark ages to try and promote some sort of propaganda in how "great" society had become, and polluted further tales, making Knights all use swords and shields and shiny plate even before they had it, use exaggerated codes of chivalry, and even corrupted tales with nonsense (such as the fabrication of Sir Lancelot, who was not part of the original tales of King Arthur).

You will find that proper medieval warfare evolved quickly, and is not at all what the renaissance nor what Hollywood has portrayed it to be.
This is actually not only true in the case of warfare, but in overall medieval science and progress. Though life was incredibly and unimaginably different from today, it was in many ways very progressive.

But on topic:

What has changed for me: I almost allways have been dead if I got headshotted in Barbutte (50 Headarmour) before the patch. I often used some lighter helmet because it made little difference. Now, after the patch, I'm still dead when headshotted. Only difference, all other hits barely itch me (ok, a little more) and headshots happen a bit more often but still seldom.

So from this (limited) perspective it was a huge ranged nerf hidden behind an attempt to "add more skill".
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Taser on January 23, 2012, 12:47:49 am
I voted that the nerf was not needed as a ranged player. This was before even playing the game. I still see no reason to have archery nerfed so much with the body shots especially if it is the case that headshots were 210% damage before the patch and are 150% now. Course I got that from a random poster whose entire post I do not remember so that may be in error.

After playing I can live with the patch if the body shots are increased in damage a bit. This is only for archery (horn bow, 5 PD) since I have no alts or stf characters that deal with xbows. I haven't used my throwing alt yet. Throwing really shouldn't have been involved in this nerf anyway. This also doesn't apply to those using 8 PD or 10 PD using longbows/rus bows. I still don't see why ranged had to be nerfed but if it's going to stick, then I just want body shots increased more.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Adamar on January 23, 2012, 12:57:22 am
you got the headshot damage mixed, it was lower before and its higher now.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Taser on January 23, 2012, 01:00:20 am
Ok then. I figured. I thought I read from someone else's post that it was the opposite and thought that it didn't make any sense. Appreciate it.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on January 23, 2012, 02:27:16 am
Ok then. I figured. I thought I read from someone else's post that it was the opposite and thought that it didn't make any sense. Appreciate it.

They are now some stupid high number like 270% now, because lord knows headshots were not damaging enough  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Taser on January 23, 2012, 02:50:31 am
They are now some stupid high number like 270% now, because lord knows headshots were not damaging enough  :rolleyes:

Are you no longer an archer? Haven't seen you around lately. Although I just got back on crpg within the last week.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on January 23, 2012, 02:57:13 am
Xylophone.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Taser on January 23, 2012, 03:03:05 am
Trombones my friend.

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Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on January 23, 2012, 03:04:30 am
In all seriousness, still an archer, though Meow convinced me last night not to respec... We shall see how long that lasts.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Taser on January 23, 2012, 03:06:34 am
Aight good to hear. have fun with your MW rus bow then.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on January 23, 2012, 03:07:55 am
Doing better with a non-loomed hornbow to be honest, but thanks.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: isatis on January 23, 2012, 03:41:37 am
Doing better with a non-loomed hornbow to be honest, but thanks.
^
this

that archery ''nerf'' has a failure inside

look at the score I can achieve with only normal bow and normal arrows
(click to show/hide)
it's not an awesome score (7-5 on siege) but tell me : how would you ever got only a positive K:D ratio before this patch with same gear?
only way was melee. now a headshot kill everybody, head armor became pointless, in the worst case (like x3 top helmet) I can body shoot glance them and kill them after.
I'm not a skilled archer, so I fear agi pure archer guy who played 5+ gen as acher, should he take tatar bow+arrow and it's 48 missile incoming!

I don't say this patch was bad, no it was a good idea to add some difficulty. but this nerfed way too badly high tier bow.
therefore, I would remove some of the accuracy penalty to high pd. it's a pity to see Hirlok with his Mw long Bow and Mw bodkin taking 3 body shot to kill me while i can kill any tin can with bow and arrow and a good shot!

good idea but buff top tier bow a bit!
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: SixThumbs on January 23, 2012, 03:50:58 am
This was also an indirect nerf to 0 slot weapons.
Title: Re: What do you think abut the archery nerf?
Post by: isatis on January 23, 2012, 03:54:21 am
This was also an indirect nerf to 0 slot weapons.
buff o slot wep !!