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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Realism Discussion => Topic started by: FRANK_THE_TANK on January 16, 2012, 02:09:22 am
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Old people: Forgetful, slow and often weak.
Level 32s are old as the freaking hill!
The game should reflect the oldness of these old coots.
I say there should be a chance they forget where they put that item down, and their check book. And it takes them days to find them again.
And some days are better than others when your old. So when its raining they should get horribly painful arthritus and walk slow as turtle!
What we have now is TOTALLY UNREALISTIC! It should be fixed!
Cheers,
Frank
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Yeah. Once players get to age of 35 or so start dropping str and agi by 0.5 per level above that.
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0.5 per day after lvl 33! And then they die! And you get a real hierloom!
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no
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So you think, that a person who has fought for his whole life will suddenly lose all his skills and refelxes, just because he becomes 48 or something? o.O
In which kind of world do you live?
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I completely missed the point of the realism board
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Dezilagel do you just pretend to be dumb or did your mother throw you against a wall in your childhood?
What does this have to do with realism?
I know enough people in the martial arts I'm doing who are between 40 and 50 and they still have very good reflexes and are still able to kick young guys asses :rolleyes:
If you want to talk about realism you should maybe go out into the real world and check out how people with for example age of 48 really are if they did sport/ or in our case fighting with weapons (which is still some kind of sport, thus healthy) their whole life :rolleyes:
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I heard that a Japanese 60yo + once threw a bear judo style.
Oh here it is:
MATSUMOTO, Nagano -- A man used a judo throw to scare off a bear that attacked him while he was picking mushrooms on a Nagano Prefecture mountain Monday afternoon, police said Tuesday.
At around 3:50 p.m., Keiichi Yamaguchi, 63, a resident of Matsuda, Kanagawa Prefecture, was picking mushrooms on a mountain in Omachi, Nagano Prefecture, when an Asiatic black bear suddenly attacked him, police said.
The bear bit Yamaguchi on the hand and left thigh and he responded by hitting it on the nose and in the stomach. When he used a judo technique to hurl the bear, it ran away from the scene. The bear was about 170 centimeters long, police said.
Yamaguchi said his injuries are not serious, but he intends to receive medical treatment at a local hospital. (Compiled from Mainichi and wire reports, Japan, Aug. 19, 2003)
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What does this have to do with realism?
I know enough people in the martial arts I'm doing who are between 40 and 50 and they still have very good reflexes and are still able to kick young guys asses :rolleyes:
If you want realism plz don't forget that during middle ages people hardly reached 40 years of lifetime. Most died much earlier - on the battlefield even more when they got a hit in the head.
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If you want realism plz don't forget that during middle ages people hardly reached 40 years of lifetime. Most died much earlier - on the battlefield even more when they got a hit in the head.
True that, but they died due to bad life standards or on the battlefield. As we can reach the age of 50 etc here ingame and as we don't have any life conditions, we shouldn't start thinking about people losing their abilities when they grow old^^
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Age ought to be taken out of the game altogether now. It was only put in to fighten people into retiring before there was the upkeep patch. It's no longer any use.
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Stop making threads Frank... You suck.
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Stop making threads Frank... You suck.
yep
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Phool, I'm not old.
I'm experienced!
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Phool, I'm not old.
I'm experienced!
That's what your mom also said last night, then I saw what was down there.
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That's what your mom also said last night, then I saw what was down there.
Teeth attempt at trolling, call the cRPG police!
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Good point Ujin, he is old and still kicking.
Ps. Please no i do not want to die i am still relatively young as for Pope!
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Anybody want to end this discussion by looking up the average lifespan of a circa 9th-15th century warrior would be?
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If you got to the age of 21, the average was:
1200-1300 A.D.: 43 years (to age 64)
1300-1400 A.D.: 24 years (to age 45) (due to the impact of the Black Death)
1400-1500 A.D.: 48 years (to age 69)
1500-1550 A.D.: 50 years (to age 71).
Gotta love Wikipedia.
This means, if we talking 1400-1500, 48(Equals lvl 33)isnt even that unrealistic.And I guess you could still have all your fighting capabilities, too.
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In the end, it was always stupid that there is an "age" in this game. It's redundant (level determining age), has no effect on the game otherwise, and the age slider in the character creation page is not related to it. I honestly don't care that it is noted in the game, but it has no reason to be, may confuse new players, and is altogether useless.
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Important thing to note about statistics concerning life expectancy in the middle ages:
Deaths in childbirth and at infancy will severely impact the statistics because of lack of adequate medical care back then. A commonly stated myth that is passed off as fact is based on this misinterpretation of statistics. ("people only lived to the age of 30 in the middle ages") However, if you count the people that survived to adulthood (15 years), most will have lived to their 50s and 60s, sometimes even longer. Since everyone starts at age 16 we can basically assume that we all survived infancy. We can also assume that nobody dies in childbirth in cRPG. We can also remove warfare as a factor on life expectancy because everyone knows that nobody dies from being killed in cRPG. (they just respawn)
tl;dr basically what b3rs3rk said.
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Some Japanese warriors / warrior lords etc. lived until they were around 70 years, and this is around 1200 and 1500th
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If you got to the age of 21, the average was:
1200-1300 A.D.: 43 years (to age 64)
1300-1400 A.D.: 24 years (to age 45) (due to the impact of the Black Death)
1400-1500 A.D.: 48 years (to age 69)
1500-1550 A.D.: 50 years (to age 71).
Gotta love Wikipedia.
This means, if we talking 1400-1500, 48(Equals lvl 33)isnt even that unrealistic.And I guess you could still have all your fighting capabilities, too.
damn this is better then I thought. I always assumed everyone was dead before 40
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Important thing to note about statistics concerning life expectancy in the middle ages:
Deaths in childbirth and at infancy will severely impact the statistics because of lack of adequate medical care back then. A commonly stated myth that is passed off as fact is based on this misinterpretation of statistics. ("people only lived to the age of 30 in the middle ages") However, if you count the people that survived to adulthood (15 years), most will have lived to their 50s and 60s, sometimes even longer. Since everyone starts at age 16 we can basically assume that we all survived infancy. We can also assume that nobody dies in childbirth in cRPG. We can also remove warfare as a factor on life expectancy because everyone knows that nobody dies from being killed in cRPG. (they just respawn)
tl;dr basically what b3rs3rk said.
this is very true. its more like THEY expected to be dead at 30. Its kind of like cancer and aids nowadays, the statistics will show alot die, and it seems bad, but in reality people only normally know 1 or 2 diagnosesed with it out of the 100s that arent that they know.
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damn this is better then I thought. I always assumed everyone was dead before 40
Yeah, it's a very stupid stereotype, I wonder where the hell does it come from. School education maybe?
Just think about people who were either wealthy, or were priests, etc etc.
Not everyone was a mercenary/soldier, or had such an unhealthy life compared to the poorer classes.
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Yeah, it's a very stupid stereotype, I wonder where the hell does it come from. School education maybe?
Just think about people who were either wealthy, or were priests, etc etc.
Not everyone was a mercenary/soldier, or had such an unhealthy life compared to the poorer classes.
Yeah in America we only learn about a month of Egypt, the 2 World Wars once or twice. But our own history repeats every single year, starting at the revolution.
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In Norway we had about ww2 for 1 month (maybe 2 times a year or more) then the next year fucking ww2 again ...
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Yeah, it's a very stupid stereotype, I wonder where the hell does it come from. School education maybe?
It simply comes from the fact that shik already stated: The Average lifespan really WAS as bad as the stereotypes, but just because there were so many Child deaths.If you managed to reach a certain age, it became much better.
And that´s a perfect example why you cant always plainly trust statistics and you always need some more background information.
@History education: In germany, we pretty much have the whole package.Stone age to Cold war, we got everything.But in the most important classes(From class 8 to 13, varying on the school you go to)we learn about WW1, WW2 and the Time up to 1990 pretty much.That´s why we learn the most about that time.
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Just a question not meaning to be rude or anything but does Germany censor WW2? I could just look it up but i would rather hear a germans side
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Changelog (0.230)
- added random chance of permanent death for old characters
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,10096.msg146303.html#msg146303
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Yeah I remember that :D Oh how brilliant it would have been.
I wish they had done it just once, would have been one hilarious melt down.
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realism
game balance
pick one
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Just a question not meaning to be rude or anything but does Germany censor WW2? I could just look it up but i would rather hear a germans side
No, why would we censor?We get the whole truth to prevent something like that from happening again.
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No, why would we censor?We get the whole truth to prevent something like that from happening again.
jap
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My dad still kicks my ass , and im 1.88 and not pretty weak pfff.
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5% chance per tick to break a hip and have your athletics permanently reduced by 1. If you break your hip at 0 athletics, you perma die.
Implement pl0x
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Past level 30, characters should have a random chance to develop cataracts and have constant nighttime and constant fog. :D
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As Old People have the influence, Toons over 40 should get to vote to force all the younger players on the server to pay for our retirement upkeep!
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So you think, that a person who has fought for his whole life will suddenly lose all his skills and refelxes, just because he becomes 48 or something? o.O
In which kind of world do you live?
In those days people rarely got older then 45
Bummer 4 u
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No, on average people died at much earlier ages, the key word here being average. A lot of the mortality was at very young ages. Once you lived past ~15 years of age you had a good chance to make it to 60-70+.
I've been reading a book on what happened to his empire once Alexander the great died, apparently the old battle scarred veterans that had been fighting for decades first for Philip then for Alexander all over the empire, all around 40-60 years of age at the time, some officers even around 70 or so, totally obliterated whatever army of raw recruits was sent against them. Literally the only people who could fight them were other veterans.
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experience more than pays off for the vitality enjoyed by youth.