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Title: New gaming PC
Post by: Stabby_Dave on December 29, 2011, 01:39:35 pm
Im currently thinking of buying a new PC. Im building a custom one but would like some advice from some more tech savvy people than me. The build below comes to £979. If people want to make suggestions or amendments, they would be much appreciated, just try to keep the total cost under £1000 :D. If you follow the link at the bottom you can come up with your own build.


Case
COOLERMASTER HAF 912 PLUS MID TOWER GAMING CASE

Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i5-2500 Quad Core (3.30GHz, 6MB Cache) + HD Graphics

Motherboard
ASUS® P8Z68-V LX: USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs, ATI®CrossFireX

Memory (RAM)
8GB SAMSUNG DUAL-DDR3 1333MHz (2 X 4GB)

Graphics Card
1.25GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 570 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready

Memory - 1st Hard Disk
2TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD2002FAEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)

1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM

Memory Card Reader
INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER (XD, MS, CF, SD, etc) + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT

Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W ENTHUSIAST SERIES™ TX650 V2-80 PLUS® BRONZE (£72)

Processor Cooling
SUPER QUIET 22dBA TRIPLE COPPER HEATPIPE INTEL CPU COOLER (£19)

Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)


Configure Here: http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/computers/intel-sandy-bridge-pc/
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: Vibe on December 29, 2011, 01:57:24 pm
Completely depends on how hardcore do you want to go, you want it for games like Battlefield 3 or dx9 ones like Warband and stuff? In the case of "Battlefield 3" I'd suggest a better video card, with 2 GB video ram.
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: Stabby_Dave on December 29, 2011, 02:03:20 pm
Thanks for the reply. I will be playing stuff like bf3, shogun 2 and probably SWTOR.

I was going to go for the Radeon 6970 but it hasnt reviewed so well and performance wise is pretty much the same compared to the gtx 570.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/12/15/ati-radeon-hd-6970-review/12
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: [ptx] on December 29, 2011, 02:07:02 pm
How about going for a 120GB SSD in the "Memory - 1st Hard Disk" for a system drive and that HDD you chose as 2nd?
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: Stabby_Dave on December 29, 2011, 02:10:41 pm
How about going for a 120GB SSD in the "Memory - 1st Hard Disk" for a system drive and that HDD you chose as 2nd?

I would but it would push me quite a bit over my 1k limit :(
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: [ptx] on December 29, 2011, 02:41:09 pm
Do you really need a 2TB HDD?
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: Stabby_Dave on December 29, 2011, 02:42:04 pm
Do you really need a 2TB HDD?

The 1GB one is weirdly more expansive so I went for the 2tb one instead.
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: [ptx] on December 29, 2011, 02:43:50 pm
Well, you can always try and put that PC together by buying the stuff off ebay or something, might just be cheaper enough to afford that SSD or something ;)
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: Tor! on December 29, 2011, 03:04:14 pm
HDD's are costly at the moment, but I'd definetly recommend a ssd!
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: Magikarp on December 29, 2011, 04:24:25 pm
Nice build, I practically used the same case for my build (Storm Enforcer=Haf 912plus with other looks)

I must say things did get a little tight in there, so be prepared to do some good cable management.

Your setup will be able to max out everything easily. I see however that you made one big mistake: be sure to pick the i5-2500k, not the regular 2500. The 2500k is unlocked, meaning you can overclock it (as I see you are intending with the cpu cooler).
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: Stabby_Dave on December 29, 2011, 06:37:00 pm
Nice build, I practically used the same case for my build (Storm Enforcer=Haf 912plus with other looks)

I must say things did get a little tight in there, so be prepared to do some good cable management.

Your setup will be able to max out everything easily. I see however that you made one big mistake: be sure to pick the i5-2500k, not the regular 2500. The 2500k is unlocked, meaning you can overclock it (as I see you are intending with the cpu cooler).

No, I wont be overclocking, hence the 2500 rather than the k version.
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: Mtemtko on December 29, 2011, 06:40:04 pm
Get the 2500K version of i5 so you can OC it, also spend a few more bucks on the CPU cooler, worth it. Wouldnt say this if you were going to get a GTX560 ti.
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: B3RS3RK on December 29, 2011, 06:46:05 pm
First of all, ditch the 2tb hd, they can cause problems with your system atm.Better get 2 1 tb hd´s.

Otherwise, yeah, its pretty good.

And you will NEVER Need 2gb of Vram on a card unless you are using a bigger resolution than 1920x1080, which is hardly achievable at the present time, only if you would use more than one Monitor.
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: Stabby_Dave on December 29, 2011, 08:08:13 pm
First of all, ditch the 2tb hd, they can cause problems with your system atm.Better get 2 1 tb hd´s.

Otherwise, yeah, its pretty good.

And you will NEVER Need 2gb of Vram on a card unless you are using a bigger resolution than 1920x1080, which is hardly achievable at the present time, only if you would use more than one Monitor.

2 1tb hdd's cost about £150 more than a single 2tb one so i can't afford to go down that route. As for what Tor said about SSD's. Again, purely for price reasons, Ill have to leave it out I think.

Get the 2500K version of i5 so you can OC it, also spend a few more bucks on the CPU cooler, worth it. Wouldnt say this if you were going to get a GTX560 ti.

I wont be Overclocking so i dont think ill need the extra cooling will I?
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: Banok on December 30, 2011, 07:08:24 am
(edit just realised its pre build so explains half the high cost, can read my post anyway if u want)

when budgeting a pc for gaming, most of the money should be on gfx card. does kind of seem like your wasting alot of cash on bottlenecked/optional extras. i mean you can build a pc which will get the same fps for near half of what you are spending. as long as you are aware of that.

if your not overclocking the stock cooler does more than enough. plus you dont need super case.

I bought a 320gb hd 5 years ago and dont think i've ever filled it. surely if 1tb is enough.

I really cant ever see my self needing ever even needing all of the 500w on my psu, but i guess thats a tiny difference.

Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: Jambi on December 30, 2011, 07:38:54 am
(edit just realised its pre build so explains half the high cost, can read my post anyway if u want)

when budgeting a pc for gaming, most of the money should be on gfx card. does kind of seem like your wasting alot of cash on bottlenecked/optional extras. i mean you can build a pc which will get the same fps for near half of what you are spending. as long as you are aware of that.

if your not overclocking the stock cooler does more than enough. plus you dont need super case.

I bought a 320gb hd 5 years ago and dont think i've ever filled it. surely if 1tb is enough.

I really cant ever see my self needing ever even needing all of the 500w on my psu, but i guess thats a tiny difference.

I think youll prolly be wanting to spend a little more cash on a new computer. The setup you showed, especially the graphics card will get outdated quite rapidly. Like Vibe said get a 2 GB card. It will prolly last for 1-2 years longer.

Maybe xfired videocards is an option ? Dont know if there's still that alot of compatible issue's nowadays.
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: [ptx] on December 30, 2011, 08:14:17 am
SLI/Xfire GPUs are a waste, the technology (directx support and such) gets outdated faster than their processing power. They might have the power to run the latest games for years to come, but simply won't support the technologies used.
I still think you should consider looking for all the parts separately on the net, would save some money and be able to afford more.
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: Vibe on December 30, 2011, 08:23:57 am
D'ah, you sure? I was just thinking of getting another Radeon HD5870 and crossfiring them... :F
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: [ptx] on December 30, 2011, 08:36:18 am
Well, try 2x 8800GTS on SLI, power comparable to some more modern cards, but no dx11 (iirc).
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: Tor! on December 30, 2011, 08:41:24 am
D'ah, you sure? I was just thinking of getting another Radeon HD5870 and crossfiring them... :F

I got crossfire, and I regret it. Would much rather spend the money on a single card!
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: Dach on December 30, 2011, 09:01:48 am
Gaming PC or Storage PC?  :shock:

Right now I run two 10k raptor of 35GB each in RAID, and they finally just filled up...

Just buyed a 120GB SSD, that's the way to go for a gaming PC.

The video card is ok IMO, you won't be able to run all the new game in max setting but unless you're a graphic junky you don't need to...
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: Stabby_Dave on December 30, 2011, 12:08:14 pm
Seems like I save up a bit of cash then for an SSD and maybe get the 6990 when it comes out next year. I would build the system myself but I wouldnt know how tbh and I'd rather get someone that knows what they're doing to do it tbh.
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: [ptx] on December 30, 2011, 12:19:12 pm
It isn't that hard to put a PC together, y'kno. A day of messing about and you will have saved some cash.
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on December 30, 2011, 01:24:30 pm
Wow 2TB its a bit OTT, and 8GB of RAM is understandable but i have 2GB dedicated Graphics Geforce GT 540M and im running on a laptop, and mine was £300 cheaper than your overall cost. (And i have the same processor) youve overspent on a lot of that
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: Mtemtko on December 30, 2011, 02:12:42 pm
Maybe wait for the 7xxx series, coming out in Q1 2012.
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: B3RS3RK on December 30, 2011, 02:17:07 pm
Maybe wait for the 7xxx series, coming out in Q1 2012.

ATI 7xxx series?

Wow nice.Seems like I gotta wait some more for a new card :D
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: Stabby_Dave on December 30, 2011, 06:15:25 pm
It isn't that hard to put a PC together, y'kno. A day of messing about and you will have saved some cash.

Playing the drums is easy if you know how but I dont know how to do either and I'd have to spend a bit of time learning how to do it and what cable goes where :) Id rather pay someone to do that for me I think.

Wow 2TB its a bit OTT, and 8GB of RAM is understandable but i have 2GB dedicated Graphics Geforce GT 540M and im running on a laptop, and mine was £300 cheaper than your overall cost. (And i have the same processor) youve overspent on a lot of that

Well I've found a 1TB caviar green HDD for £40 cheaper. Then ill wait for the next gen of graphics cards to come out next year before I buy anything.
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: Magikarp on December 30, 2011, 07:59:56 pm
No, I wont be overclocking, hence the 2500 rather than the k version.
Than don't get a cpu cooler you fool!  :) No need for anything else than stock cooler unless you overclock it up to 3.9ghz or higher.

About crossfire/sli, I agree, lots of games have problems running in those modes, sometimes you wont even benefit at all.

Edit: putting it together is very easy, it's not like playing an instrument at all. It's all just plug it in and go have fun. Just watch some vid on how to do so and it'll be easy.
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: Banok on December 31, 2011, 08:07:13 am
know anyone who can help you put it together? its worth learning, its very simple really. computer software breaks at every possible moment (for me) but plugging/screwing computer hardware together is hard to do wrong with a little knowhow. i actually enjoy it, well ive only build 3 pcs.
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: Stabby_Dave on December 31, 2011, 12:28:24 pm
know anyone who can help you put it together? its worth learning, its very simple really. computer software breaks at every possible moment (for me) but plugging/screwing computer hardware together is hard to do wrong with a little knowhow. i actually enjoy it, well ive only build 3 pcs.

Not really but ill look into it. I have an old PC with which im gonna sell off all the old parts so I can have a fiddle around with that to learn.
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: wayyyyyne on December 31, 2011, 09:55:44 pm
Anyone who played with lego bricks in his childhood is just about as able to assemble computer parts together imo.
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: Christo on January 01, 2012, 03:14:51 pm
Anyone who played with lego bricks in his childhood is just about as able to assemble computer parts together imo.

This.

Also it gets easier every time I have to get a PC together, these are made like that.  :)

Only thing you can really fuck up, are the jumpers imo.
But there are manuals, et cetera, et cetera.
Title: Re: New gaming PC
Post by: bilwit on January 01, 2012, 03:38:02 pm
Anyone who played with lego bricks in his childhood is just about as able to assemble computer parts together imo.

Yup. You just plug shit in. Casual people are absurdly awestruck by this for some reason.