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Title: Don't we have enough of random plains/desert maps?
Post by: Haragh on December 20, 2011, 09:27:33 pm
So tonight I was playing on EU Server 1 and there were typical desert maps with few houses where archers camped on the roof and cavalry run around the map.
After few hours came one good map. Winter forest map and there were not any houses to camp.. just lots of trees and small hills. Me and my friend were thinking: "Yes, finally great map!" Then admin polled map change on the first round for random plains.. Cool.. more cavalry rape and arrow in the knee. Thanks.

It would be nice to have more variance on maps. It's just stupid that every map is almost the same. And of course some of those little different maps have been deactivated from the rotation.
Why every map has to be some open plains were it's easy for archers to shoot and cavalry to run around? Maybe more true village maps and forests?
Title: Re: Don't we have enough of random plains/desert maps?
Post by: Torben on December 20, 2011, 09:31:20 pm
i am missing a lot of great maps from the old rotations... imo we should have a healthy balance of real planes without houses/camp spots,  semi planes with houses and true village maps.
Title: Re: Don't we have enough of random plains/desert maps?
Post by: Keshian on December 20, 2011, 09:34:25 pm
Can you ever have enough???


But yeah there are actually a crapload of great, user-developed maps that were available before, primarily on unofficial servers as official servers seem to just rotate the single-player maps through a cycle.  Dont understand why we dont have 30-40 of these greta maps added in, especially since you can upvote and downvote maps in-game now.  Might as well add all the maps and let the  players decide by voting in-game.
Title: Re: Don't we have enough of random plains/desert maps?
Post by: Overdriven on December 20, 2011, 09:59:41 pm
To many village maps. That's the problem. But the equal problem is that random plains usually produce crappy hilly maps. We need more community made maps, some good open plains ones, some town maps but also maps that have a mixture. Most of the village maps are pretty horrific.
Title: Re: Don't we have enough of random plains/desert maps?
Post by: bonekuukkeli on December 20, 2011, 10:01:06 pm
+1

Problem isn't archers or cav, but map rotation that allows them to rape. Most of maps are made for roofcamping and/or cavrape.
Title: Re: Don't we have enough of random plains/desert maps?
Post by: Gisbert_of_Thuringia on December 20, 2011, 10:02:22 pm
Quote from: Overdriven on December 20, 2011, 09:59:41 pm
To many village maps. That's the problem. But the equal problem is that random plains usually produce crappy hilly maps. We need more community made maps, some good open plains ones, some town maps but also maps that have a mixture. Most of the village maps are pretty horrific.

True dat!
Title: Re: Don't we have enough of random plains/desert maps?
Post by: Kato on December 20, 2011, 10:06:14 pm
There are many great maps which somehow disappeared from regular map rotation. :?
example:
Nord village from musttiky - i played there maybe only 2 times in last two months and its great balanced map for infantry and archers(still playable for cav) with unreachable roofs!

Playing on one really flat plain map per a day can be refreshing, too.
Now is map rotation pretty dull, almost all village maps are roofcamp fest. Ruin maps on other hand are quite good.
Title: Re: Don't we have enough of random plains/desert maps?
Post by: Overdriven on December 20, 2011, 10:10:32 pm
Probs keep people interested as well if maps were better quality, rather than the shit heap they generally are now.
Title: Re: Don't we have enough of random plains/desert maps?
Post by: Turkhammer on December 20, 2011, 10:34:00 pm
Quote from: bonekuukkeli on December 20, 2011, 10:01:06 pm
+1

Problem isn't archers or cav, but map rotation that allows them to rape. Most of maps are made for roofcamping and/or cavrape.

Pfft, cav can't rape if archers and inf cooperate.  But it seems like a badge of honor not to cooperate.  Everyone on his own is easy prey for the cav sharks.  2 pikes or bamboo spears and 2 archers is enough to scare away almost all cav.  Cav never operate as a unit either.
Title: Re: Don't we have enough of random plains/desert maps?
Post by: Siiem on December 20, 2011, 10:36:54 pm
the plains and desert part is to reflect on our equipment base. Which is all arabian/turkish or russian armours. So the maps needed are mostly desert for the arabs and turks and the plains map are for the russians.
Title: Re: Don't we have enough of random plains/desert maps?
Post by: Overdriven on December 20, 2011, 10:37:03 pm
Quote from: Turkhammer on December 20, 2011, 10:34:00 pm
Cav never operate as a unit either.

Speak for yourself  :P
Title: Re: Don't we have enough of random plains/desert maps?
Post by: Skysong on December 20, 2011, 10:39:36 pm
I want more orange juice storm maps. ( you see what i mean if you seen one of them)  :twisted:
Title: Re: Don't we have enough of random plains/desert maps?
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on December 21, 2011, 01:48:11 am
i want that tropical island shit already!

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Title: Re: Don't we have enough of random plains/desert maps?
Post by: Torben on December 21, 2011, 09:11:14 pm
Quote from: The_Bloody_Nine on December 21, 2011, 01:48:11 am
i want that tropical island shit already!

btw I love random plains.

i can only approved.
Title: Re: Don't we have enough of random plains/desert maps?
Post by: gazda on December 21, 2011, 09:15:40 pm
battle servers, random plain/steppe(would be cool to add desert too) maps  only
no village, city, ruin or any other kind of shitmap
best solution
Title: Re: Don't we have enough of random plains/desert maps?
Post by: Kafein on December 21, 2011, 09:17:42 pm
IMO, only pure cities without any open space. And pure, completely flat plains.
Title: Re: Don't we have enough of random plains/desert maps?
Post by: Teeth on December 21, 2011, 09:20:55 pm
As soon as ladders get removed from battle I will love village maps. Mostly a good balance of cover, cav room, archer spots. Roofcamping gives archers too much archer spots.

There are tons of maps that have been created in the past, a lot of them seem to somehow dissappeared over time. Map rotation makers should ask information at the other continent servers and at unofficial servers. They probably have some different maps, implement them all.

Let QMD'ing and QMU'ing decide which ones have to stay. But voting information should responded too quickly. If a handful of maps get implemented, take a look at the votes the next day and get them out if people think they are shit. Use us to test maps, we can vote now.

In a few days I'll have 2 weeks of freedom, time to get myself into mapmaking. If I succeed in making something like a map at all, it will be a nice openish map without roofs!
Title: Re: Don't we have enough of random plains/desert maps?
Post by: ArchonAlarion on December 21, 2011, 09:59:40 pm
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Title: Re: Don't we have enough of random plains/desert maps?
Post by: Kafein on December 21, 2011, 10:00:53 pm

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Title: Re: Don't we have enough of random plains/desert maps?
Post by: ArchonAlarion on December 21, 2011, 10:03:17 pm
Which one of these does not belong?
Title: Re: Don't we have enough of random plains/desert maps?
Post by: Lizard_man on December 21, 2011, 10:15:43 pm
The current rotation is a load of shit i must admit, the forest map you're on about is actually a good map, i don't see why the admin changed it, i do like the random plains maps aswell, the hilly ones aren't as fun, but if both teams decide to come down from there hill, they can be. EU_1 is pretty much nothing but village maps, which most maps in the rotation actually are, so not much that can be done about that, but the problem with 90% village maps, means that pretty much every single map turns into a dancing and dodge before i get raped by archers map, which is a serious pain. I'd love to see alot more forest maps, they're really fun, as for more "true" village maps, no thanks, pewwww, pewwww, pewwww, the open village maps aren't as bad as some of the other villages, one thing i want, more fucking random plains... :mad:
Title: Re: Don't we have enough of random plains/desert maps?
Post by: Kafein on December 21, 2011, 10:16:52 pm
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Title: Re: Don't we have enough of random plains/desert maps?
Post by: gazda on December 21, 2011, 10:19:34 pm
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Title: Re: Don't we have enough of random plains/desert maps?
Post by: ArchonAlarion on December 21, 2011, 10:23:57 pm
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