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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Game Balance Discussion => Topic started by: EyeBeat on December 18, 2011, 03:34:53 pm

Title: Get rid of shield invulnerbility please.
Post by: EyeBeat on December 18, 2011, 03:34:53 pm
It is game breaking.  Just because they have 13 shield skill does not mean their shield should NEVER break.
Title: Re: Get rid of shield invulnerbility please.
Post by: [ptx] on December 18, 2011, 03:43:13 pm
It messes with my game man, knowing that somewhere someone has 13 shield skill... FU, EyeBeatWomen  :(
Title: Re: Get rid of shield invulnerbility please.
Post by: EyeBeat on December 18, 2011, 03:55:56 pm
It messes with my game man, knowing that somewhere someone has 13 shield skill... FU, EyeBeatWomen  :(

it blocks at 104% and the shield never breaks.  It fucks the game/mod up.  fix it please..
Title: Re: Get rid of shield invulnerbility please.
Post by: Paul on December 18, 2011, 04:00:17 pm
The only thing a crippled 13 shield build might be able to do is forcing a draw in battle or maybe standing on the gate wrench in siege. But then at least from my interpretation of the common sense an admin can kick him.

Low prio WSE change.
Title: Re: Get rid of shield invulnerbility please.
Post by: Mala on December 18, 2011, 04:04:07 pm
But on the other hand they have nearly no attack capacities and it needs only a single hit to kill them.
Even with lvl 33 it is only a "special" build.
Title: Re: Get rid of shield invulnerbility please.
Post by: EyeBeat on December 18, 2011, 04:08:22 pm
The only thing a crippled 13 shield build might be able to do is forcing a draw in battle or maybe standing on the gate wrench in siege. But then at least from my interpretation of the common sense an admin can kick him.

Low prio WSE change.

Shik wont give me admin and I play early mornings on NA.  I would do as you say but I am not given the appropriate tools even though many have suggested me.
Title: Re: Get rid of shield invulnerbility please.
Post by: EyeBeat on December 18, 2011, 04:11:39 pm
But on the other hand they have nearly no attack capacities and it needs only a single hit to kill them.
Even with lvl 33 it is only a "special" build.

But the fact that you MW a one handed broad axe for no reason should be enough to get rid of this bug.  No matter how many times you hit it... it does not break.
Title: Re: Get rid of shield invulnerbility please.
Post by: Lennu on December 18, 2011, 04:22:47 pm
I dont mind someone having 13 shield skill in battle, you can just ignore him knowing that he can't hurt you at all. And those asshats forcing a draw can be easily kicked. The only problem is in CTF, since there you don't have to attack, just take the flag with your agiwhore and run.
Title: Re: Get rid of shield invulnerbility please.
Post by: EyeBeat on December 18, 2011, 04:37:36 pm
I dont mind someone having 13 shield skill in battle, you can just ignore him knowing that he can't hurt you at all. And those asshats forcing a draw can be easily kicked. The only problem is in CTF, since there you don't have to attack, just take the flag with your agiwhore and run.
NA admin leader Shik will never appoint a good admins for early mornings so you have to deal with horrible shit like this everyday.  It really sucks for people like me when I get off of work and I want to play the game by the rules there is no admin to enforce it.

I donated 100 dollars to the server and get fuck all back for it.  Not that I want anything back... but the ability to play on a server with out people tking and using bugs would be nice.
Title: Re: Get rid of shield invulnerbility please.
Post by: zagibu on December 18, 2011, 06:12:52 pm
I dont mind someone having 13 shield skill in battle, you can just ignore him knowing that he can't hurt you at all.

He can hurt you with 1 PS and a Masterwork Steel Pick. He can also have 6 AGI at level 31. Really, it should not be possible to reach 100% damage reduction ever.
Title: Re: Get rid of shield invulnerbility please.
Post by: Laufknoten on December 18, 2011, 06:49:44 pm
Yeah, I saw like one guy with 13 shield skill the past 6 months. They are such a pain in the ass and totally gamebreaking...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Get rid of shield invulnerbility please.
Post by: kono yaro! on December 18, 2011, 11:08:23 pm
doesn't need to be fixed really. it's fun to mess around with but that's pretty much it. you need to man up if you feel so threatened by 13 shielders that you come on the forums and whine about them

/not a 13 shielder
Title: Re: Get rid of shield invulnerbility please.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on December 18, 2011, 11:10:47 pm
Learn to kick.

Having played a lot of 13 shield skill time and also against them, I can say it is easily countered. Kicks, good footwork and crushthrough are amazing things.
Title: Re: Get rid of shield invulnerbility please.
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on December 18, 2011, 11:48:33 pm
I've played the build for lols a lot, and its completely useless. You have very low wpf and you get swatted like a fly.
Title: Re: Get rid of shield invulnerbility please.
Post by: Memento_Mori on December 19, 2011, 05:28:01 am
Until fixed you might invest in a crush through weapon & then you can laugh as you go through the shield and one hit them. That should stop them from bothering you so much in the mornings, big meanies with their indestructible shields.
Title: Re: Get rid of shield invulnerbility please.
Post by: EyeBeat on December 19, 2011, 06:35:53 am
I point out that the admins do not do their job. 

So they white knight a bug that was over looked.

Not gonna fall for the troll.  chadz or whoever please get rid of the bug.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Get rid of shield invulnerbility please.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on December 19, 2011, 06:46:20 am
We can now white knight bugs? Even if we can, this qualifies as white knighting? Are people's vocabulary so limited that not only must we make up phrases or words, but we now must resort to not even using them properly?

Proof of NA inferiority...
Title: Re: Get rid of shield invulnerbility please.
Post by: EyeBeat on December 19, 2011, 12:59:34 pm
We can now white knight bugs? Even if we can, this qualifies as white knighting? Are people's vocabulary so limited that not only must we make up phrases or words, but we now must resort to not even using them properly?

Proof of NA inferiority...

You sound upset.
Title: Re: Get rid of shield invulnerbility please.
Post by: Tydeus on December 19, 2011, 08:13:56 pm
The only thing a crippled 13 shield build might be able to do is forcing a draw in battle or maybe standing on the gate wrench in siege.
I think it's a bit of an issue for CTF actually, otherwise... meh.
Title: Re: Get rid of shield invulnerbility please.
Post by: kono yaro! on December 19, 2011, 09:29:44 pm
nerf it so it only blocks 100% of the damage
Title: Re: Get rid of shield invulnerbility please.
Post by: EyeBeat on December 19, 2011, 10:33:40 pm
nerf it so it only blocks 100% of the damage
It would have to be at least 99 percent.

I am voting 90 or 95 percent max.
Title: Re: Get rid of shield invulnerbility please.
Post by: Furax on December 21, 2011, 01:55:56 pm
Also met one of theese fucks once, all he did was backpedal with his shield up until it was a draw.(did not try to attack once)
 Theres nothing you can do, even if I had a crushthrough hes high shieldskill would counter it would it not?

And dont say kick, you cant kick someone running away from you.
Title: Re: Get rid of shield invulnerbility please.
Post by: Mala on December 21, 2011, 10:06:25 pm
...
 Theres nothing you can do, even if I had a crushthrough hes high shieldskill would counter it would it not?

...

Naa, i have tested this with shieldskill 13 and steel shield. It does not help against the common mauler. Ok, it works for a mallet and sometimes against agi 2hander, which have found a maul on the battlefield.
Title: Re: Get rid of shield invulnerbility please.
Post by: Gurnisson on December 21, 2011, 10:11:19 pm
And dont say kick, you cant kick someone running away from you.

I've done it. Used the map to my advantage, forcing him to stafe at one point, and then it was a one-hit with kickslash.

He can hurt you with 1 PS and a Masterwork Steel Pick. He can also have 6 AGI at level 31. Really, it should not be possible to reach 100% damage reduction ever.

Can't get any good weapons with 13 shield skill. Steel Pick is impossible to use.
Title: Re: Get rid of shield invulnerbility please.
Post by: zagibu on December 21, 2011, 10:51:16 pm
Can't get any good weapons with 13 shield skill. Steel Pick is impossible to use.

Haha, how could I forget about requirements?
Title: Re: Get rid of shield invulnerbility please.
Post by: Christo on December 22, 2011, 06:27:24 pm
Just wait for an opening.

Most 13 shielders I've met (and that was rare as hell), were down in one, mostly two hits.

Either they get hit via an opening or get cornered.

Quite a lols/gimp build, I'd say there are other stuff that needs to be taken care of.
Title: Re: Get rid of shield invulnerbility please.
Post by: B3RS3RK on December 22, 2011, 06:35:11 pm
Leave it the fuck alone.There are few who have such a character and even fewer who use it regularly.

They cant pick good weapons, they cant have much else skills and they are easily killed with a few tricks(I mean, whats he gonna do if you charge for him, Fight you?Please, he cant even hurt most people with the kind of strength he has).Its only for fucking around a bit.

And no, I dont have such a char.
Title: Re: Get rid of shield invulnerbility please.
Post by: Malaclypse on December 23, 2011, 07:20:18 am
I don't see any reason for a shield to have more than 100% resistance.