cRPG

cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Calmir on December 14, 2011, 09:25:42 pm

Title: To Bullet
Post by: Calmir on December 14, 2011, 09:25:42 pm
Bullet,

I would much appreciate it if you would trade me back my MW German Greatsword which I accidentally placed on the market for 110k rather than 1.1m. I understand this is my mistake and you have a choice to give it back or not, but I would like to give you 50k if you would be so kind as to re-trade the item to me in thanks for understanding the situation.

PM me, thanks

Stry
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Gravoth_iii on December 14, 2011, 09:27:29 pm
another victim of failure.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on December 14, 2011, 09:31:26 pm
Bullet again, guess he snipes for these kinda mistakes.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Calmir on December 14, 2011, 09:32:05 pm
Yeah, it was late, and I was doing it too quickly. Shit happens, it was my fault. Also, I'm playing a video game so really it isn't a big deal.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Ricky77 on December 14, 2011, 09:36:00 pm
yes. i have talked to bullet. but his excuse was that stry has 2 +3 items already and he doesnt need it. which is rediculas. bullet the person wanting to join my clan. i will not let him if he does not return the item. LoC doont want trolls who are jerks. good luck stry i hope u get the item back.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Frankysan on December 14, 2011, 09:48:04 pm
rape him and burn his family
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Ricky77 on December 14, 2011, 09:52:06 pm
a little harsh mad bro. i have known bullet a long time. hes not a bad guy. i dont know why he is doing this.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Meow on December 14, 2011, 10:28:05 pm
Yeah, this is how you ask for your items back and at the same time make the other person look bad :mrgreen:

+1
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Matey on December 14, 2011, 10:37:10 pm
this isnt the first time bullet has done this is it? prolly has some script running to try and snatch up cheap looms.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Meow on December 14, 2011, 10:42:19 pm
Some people actually no life this and refresh the market every 5 seconds :mrgreen:
There is nothing i can do as this is not bug related.
Still i'd rather have more of those people who just return the stuff.

Seems kinda obvious that it sucks big time if you lose items you played for a lot in this way.
Saying he already has two and doesn't need more is...meh.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Calmir on December 14, 2011, 10:44:19 pm
Well by pointing out that I have more than 2 MW items is pretty hypocritical of him, considering he himself has more than 2 MW items as well. So to me, it's not a valid excuse. I guess I would just encourage people to not do business with Bullet. I would also encourage clan leaders to think twice before accepting an application of his. These are not the kind of people that I look forward to playing with when I log into a game. I like to have fun.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: polkafranzi on December 14, 2011, 10:47:51 pm
crpg needs a lynch mob, of people immune to bans, who are allowed to just go around and TK the shit outta these guys who take advatange of others for personal gain, making the mod unplayable until they do the right thing.  I volunteer.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Meow on December 14, 2011, 10:52:45 pm
crpg needs a lynch mob, of people immune to bans, who are allowed to just go around and TK the shit outta these guys who take advatange of others for personal gain, making the mod unplayable until they do the right thing.  I volunteer.

We call them admins :mrgreen:
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Dezilagel on December 14, 2011, 10:57:14 pm
Want to find these guys?

Look to the sky.

Hope you get your stuff back man
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: polkafranzi on December 14, 2011, 10:59:16 pm
We call them admins :mrgreen:

Gief this thing you call "admin", bullet would soon feel the wrath.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Teeth on December 14, 2011, 11:22:53 pm
We call them admins :mrgreen:
We need something a bit more on the fringe of the law. This game already has torches and pitchforks lets go get him!
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Kophka on December 14, 2011, 11:53:18 pm
Personally, I don't see anything wrong with someone snatching up items when people screw up. It's not like this is an isolated incident, there are threads all over the forum about people who've made the same screw-up. It's not like some kind of bug is causing this to happen. And it's not like he led a brand new player into a scam. I hope you get your item back and learn a lesson, but what's with the care-bear stuff? This isn't Hand-Holding Let's All Be Nice World, is it? :D
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Calmir on December 14, 2011, 11:56:39 pm
I never demanded for him to give it back. I asked nicely because, yes I did make a mistake, which I clearly stated. I never asked for pity. I even offered to pay him; so I have no idea where the "care-bear" attitude comes into play.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Kophka on December 14, 2011, 11:59:23 pm
I never demanded for him to give it back. I asked nicely because, yes I did make a mistake, which I clearly stated. I never asked for pity. I even offered to pay him.

Sorry, Calmir, I wasn't saying anything bad about you, and I really hope you get your item back. I was just wondering about all the people saying he should be banned, like he was hacking the database or something, or actively leading people into scams, people that couldn't know any better. People are screaming for this guys head, and it doesn't make a lick of sense. Is there anything ban-worthy in what he did? Doesn't look like it to me.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Calmir on December 15, 2011, 12:03:59 am
No not ban worthy at all, he broke no rules, but with the crpg community being so small these are not the kind of actions people should be promoting. He has already informed me that I will not be getting the item back. So just another warning to everyone to be more careful with the market place and certain assholes in-game.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Male_Stripper on December 15, 2011, 12:08:32 am
Ban he, he has hax.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: polkafranzi on December 15, 2011, 12:46:07 am
He has already informed me that I will not be getting the item back.

Think how many typos get made on this forum everyday.  Really, missing one fucking zero from a number shouldn't result in such a retarded punishment just cos some prick called bullet has no rl and is fapping and F5'ing simultaneously on the market.  This "you're not getting it back" attitude also stinks, I bet he's well impressed with himself for getting that item at the expense of what seems to be a genuine stand up polite guy.  And Kophka's carebear attitude to this individual would certainly be a bit different if he was the one who fucked up and was another victim to these douches.  Meh, karma exists.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Kophka on December 15, 2011, 12:52:58 am
Think how many typos get made on this forum everyday.  Really, missing one fucking zero from a number shouldn't result in such a retarded punishment just cos some prick called bullet has no rl and is fapping and F5'ing simultaneously on the market.  This "you're not getting it back" attitude also stinks, I bet he's well impressed with himself for getting that item at the expense of what seems to be a genuine stand up polite guy.  And Kophka's carebear attitude to this individual would certainly be a bit different if he was the one who fucked up and was another victim to these douches.  Meh, karma exists.

I don't condone what this guy did, and I agree that he's a colossal prick for taking advantage of somebodies slip up. I just couldn't understand the people saying he should be banned, or hunted down and tk'd mercilessly. Didn't make any sense, there were no rules broken.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: PieParadox on December 15, 2011, 02:46:22 am
A lot of people are running scripts now... It's pretty gay, honestly the devs shouldn't allow it.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Calmir on December 15, 2011, 03:37:32 am
I agree it shouldn't be allowed.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Ricky77 on December 15, 2011, 03:40:55 am
mr.bean the explorer: wats ur steam
mr.bean the explorer: stry the guy who u scammed wants to talk to u
mr.bean the explorer: and yes i consider it scamming
Bulletproof441: lol
Bulletproof441: then
Bulletproof441: i wonder
Bulletproof441: if
Bulletproof441: you
Bulletproof441: are
Bulletproof441: not
Bulletproof441: stupid
mr.bean the explorer: the guy just wants to talk to u
mr.bean the explorer: whats ur steam
Bulletproof441: guess
Bulletproof441: what
Bulletproof441: i
Bulletproof441: dont
Bulletproof441: want
Bulletproof441: to
Bulletproof441: talk
Bulletproof441: to
Bulletproof441: him
Bulletproof441: because
Bulletproof441: i
Bulletproof441: like
Bulletproof441: this
Bulletproof441: sexy
Bulletproof441: +3
Bulletproof441: german
Bulletproof441: greatsword

just a general discution this guy has . ive been trying hard to get the loom back but he just doesnt care.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: KaleLord on December 15, 2011, 03:42:26 am
I agree it shouldn't be allowed. I do know for a fact that Bullet does run a script, which is how he manages to snag all those miss-priced items.

I doubt he is smart enough to do that.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Ricky77 on December 15, 2011, 03:49:00 am
no kale he actually is using a skript . he told me in ts. in about a week there will be about 5 threads about him and looms. hes boared with game he told me so he wants to see how many free looms he can get. ):
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Braeden on December 15, 2011, 04:49:58 am
A script you say?

Well then.

Aaaaand banned.  4 suspicious purchases in the last 48 hours leads me to believe the script does exist, or you're spending a ton of time being a dick.  Either way.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Lizard_man on December 15, 2011, 05:07:14 am
:shock:
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: PieParadox on December 15, 2011, 05:11:09 am
Scripts are allowed by the devs, as evidenced before by TruthfulLies using a script multiple times in the past to snag items in the same way. Nothing was done about so...
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on December 15, 2011, 05:13:09 am
You're right, we gotta nerf cav--before they buy all the MW items!
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Braeden on December 15, 2011, 05:17:37 am
Scripts are allowed by the devs, as evidenced before by TruthfulLies using a script multiple times in the past to snag items in the same way. Nothing was done about so...

Neat theory.

Seems like they aren't allowed though.  Since apparently they are being banned now.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Xant on December 15, 2011, 05:31:02 am
Good. Why should something be allowed that's specifically aimed to fuck people over?
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on December 15, 2011, 07:24:02 am
meow and ricky, stop being mercy with this guy he deserves it: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,17541.msg257802.html#msg257802

ha, only read first site first. Now this and that older incident should be enough that we won't see him again.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Kalp on December 15, 2011, 08:11:15 am
It's simple solution to this.

You put offer on market. Someone want to buy it [click accept]. You get message which inform you that someone want to accept this offer and you have two possibilities - accepting transaction or decline.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on December 15, 2011, 08:36:27 am
It's simple solution to this.

You put offer on market. Someone want to buy it [click accept]. You get message which inform you that someone want to accept this offer and you have two possibilities - accepting transaction or decline.
sounds nice. Plus make an optional email notification, so that you don't have to constantly check the website.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Vibe on December 15, 2011, 09:00:34 am
People make mistakes, idiot
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Xant on December 15, 2011, 09:13:15 am
Any decent trade system has an "accept" phase after both sides have made their "offer", so yeah, good idea.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Taser on December 15, 2011, 09:14:51 am
Now a new call shall be raised... FREE BULLET! You have brought this on yourselves.

But banning was not deserved. Yes its not cool to buy looms when people obviously mess up but no one has been banned thus far for script usage but bullet right? So its selective banning simply because you dislike the guy and his actions.

Neat theory.

Seems like they aren't allowed though.  Since apparently they are being banned now.

You did say this. Who else has been banned for script usage? And if its a new rule was it in action when bullet used his scripts? And you don't even know if he did.

A script you say?

Well then.

Aaaaand banned.  4 suspicious purchases in the last 48 hours leads me to believe the script does exist, or you're spending a ton of time being a dick.  Either way.

Admins being badmins. Crpg for ya.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Vibe on December 15, 2011, 09:20:40 am
FIXED

So you never made a mistake in your life? If you did, by your definition you are then dumb/lazy.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: PieParadox on December 15, 2011, 09:38:23 am
It's not a theory Braeden... It's just what happened multiple times..

So now script users are being banned?? Since when? Also are there rules about using the marketplace?
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Xant on December 15, 2011, 09:41:25 am
Since now, obviously.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Leesin on December 15, 2011, 10:21:18 am
Goodbye Bullet, I have no idea who you are but when I saw this

mr.bean the explorer: wats ur steam
mr.bean the explorer: stry the guy who u scammed wants to talk to u
mr.bean the explorer: and yes i consider it scamming
Bulletproof441: lol
Bulletproof441: then
Bulletproof441: i wonder
Bulletproof441: if
Bulletproof441: you
Bulletproof441: are
Bulletproof441: not
Bulletproof441: stupid
mr.bean the explorer: the guy just wants to talk to u
mr.bean the explorer: whats ur steam
Bulletproof441: guess
Bulletproof441: what
Bulletproof441: i
Bulletproof441: dont
Bulletproof441: want
Bulletproof441: to
Bulletproof441: talk
Bulletproof441: to
Bulletproof441: him
Bulletproof441: because
Bulletproof441: i
Bulletproof441: like
Bulletproof441: this
Bulletproof441: sexy
Bulletproof441: +3
Bulletproof441: german
Bulletproof441: greatsword

just a general discution this guy has . ive been trying hard to get the loom back but he just doesnt care.

I realised anyone who types like that should be perma banned from the internet, cya mate.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Torben on December 15, 2011, 10:47:43 am
Personally, I don't see anything wrong with someone snatching up items when people screw up.

well.  its not carebearing if people stand up for ethical behavior amongst eachother.  I am actually quite pleased to see so many people in this community standing up against dickatry.

do remember that we are playing a game and this is about fun.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on December 15, 2011, 11:13:15 am
Now a new call shall be raised... FREE BULLET! You have brought this on yourselves.

But banning was not deserved. Yes its not cool to buy looms when people obviously mess up but no one has been banned thus far for script usage but bullet right? So its selective banning simply because you dislike the guy and his actions.

You did say this. Who else has been banned for script usage? And if its a new rule was it in action when bullet used his scripts? And you don't even know if he did.

Admins being badmins. Crpg for ya.
lol, no one will cry "free bullet", just look at his posts and see what an asshole he is. And if you read through that incident with pravi, you know for sure he is doing this on purpose.

also, its beeing said a million times before: main rule is common sense. and why shouldn't Bullet be the first who gets banned for script usage?
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Meow on December 15, 2011, 11:48:46 am
Great morning so far.

Coffee and justice! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Bullet441 on December 15, 2011, 12:57:05 pm
Actually I don't use a script, I'm homeschooled.  No idea what made these players so convinced that I use one. I'm not the first to snag a lucky deal on the market and I won't be the last.

Now, that chat with ricky was only because of his incessant pestering. I was at first thinking of giving the loom back (I've done it before as most of you know) but to be honest ricky really made me rethink that.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Danneh on December 15, 2011, 01:02:03 pm
Actually I don't use a script, I'm homeschooled.  No idea what made these players so convinced that I use one. I'm not the first to snag a lucky deal on the market and I won't be the last.

Now, that chat with ricky was only because of his incessant pestering. I was at first thinking of giving the loom back (I've done it before as most of you know) but to be honest ricky really made me rethink that.

Heres the reason for his lack of social skills and empathy.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Bullet441 on December 15, 2011, 01:10:11 pm
Heres the reason for his lack of social skills and empathy.

And here we go people, the prime example of why I didn't want to reveal this... 
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on December 15, 2011, 01:20:25 pm
Cant say I like what Bullet did, actually its rather prick-ish but banning is too much imo. Why dont you remove the market function from people that cant fill in the correct numbers?
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Meow on December 15, 2011, 01:59:58 pm
That would ruin it.
This makes for way better drama, is more fun and feels like the right thing.
Totally my personal opinion. :mrgreen:

I'd rather have a community where people PM someone who screws up on the market and offer stuff back, even if a fee is involved.

Not that i am particularly happy with what the Grey guys do on Siege but to be fair, so far they are great when it comes to saving people's stuff from market screwups.
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,22031.msg317869.html#msg317869

That was pretty hilarious.

Also another one contacted me lately that some guy might have been hacked as he put up all his heirlooms on the market for almost nothing.
Then agreed to return them without me even asking for it.

And there are a lot more people who do this which makes me happy.

I won't miss someone who would rather keep the stuff especially if asked in a nice way.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Reinhardt on December 15, 2011, 03:41:33 pm
Great morning so far.

Coffee and justice! :mrgreen:

A nice combo, indeed.

Yes, I made a mistake when I was typing out an essay. Not when I'm about to offer to a wide audience something that took me weeks to loom, and it only takes me 5-6 digits to type in.

Do we really need to have all these suggested features on the marketplace just because people are lazy? Don't devs got better things to spend time on?

Also, laziness has nothing to do with it. When the market first came out, I put up a plated charger for 35,000 gold. That translated to 35 gold. I lost out on 34965 gold because of a simple mistake. I never got the money or item back, because it wasn't enough to pursue. However, if I ever put up a MW item for 100000 gold instead of 1000000 gold, I would hope that the person who "got a good deal" would be kind enough to give me the item back.

Again, people make mistakes. There's no reason that an online gaming community has to be as fucked up as the real world.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Calmir on December 15, 2011, 06:37:19 pm
This kind of exploded into something that I didn't want. Seeing how scripts were legal to use as of, last night? I don't think it warrants a ban, more of a warning. Banning Bullet for doing something completely within the rules on the market system is like banning horse archery from crpg and then perma-banning everyone who is currently a horse archer. All I wanted to do was to ask for my loom back and offer some money in return, because it was completely my fault, though yes, it was a rather large and costly mistake. I didn't want to get the guy banned.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: polkafranzi on December 15, 2011, 06:56:28 pm
This kind of exploded into something that I didn't want. Seeing how scripts were legal to use as of, last night? I don't think it warrants a ban, more of a warning. Banning Bullet for doing something completely within the rules on the market system is like banning horse archery from crpg and then perma-banning everyone who is currently a horse archer. All I wanted to do was to ask for my loom back and offer some money in return, because it was completely my fault, though yes, it was a rather large and costly mistake. I didn't want to get the guy banned.
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Calmir on December 15, 2011, 07:26:39 pm
(click to show/hide)

Ok Maybe I wasn't clear enough in my post above. I don't care whether or not he gets banned, but I don't want it to be because of this incident. So I'm not being a "care-bear" but I don't want to be the one responsible for getting someone else banned.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Meow on December 15, 2011, 07:31:09 pm
Well the only one responsible his ban is him.
No worries :mrgreen:
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Taser on December 15, 2011, 07:31:19 pm
lol, no one will cry "free bullet", just look at his posts and see what an asshole he is. And if you read through that incident with pravi, you know for sure he is doing this on purpose.

also, its beeing said a million times before: main rule is common sense. and why shouldn't Bullet be the first who gets banned for script usage?

To be honest I said the Free Bullet part because I'm sure people will say it simply to troll when on the battle servers.

I know he has done this before and it sucks for the people that have lost their looms. However, again, it is not ban worthy. There were no rules about script usage and he wasn't even really banned for script usage since the guy who banned him didn't really check. It was a new "rule" about script usage that was used retroactively so banning Bullet would have some justification beyond "he's a dick", even if that was part of the justification. If we're banning dicks, why is Spook still here?

I dislike people losing their looms and I support the new idea brought up here where someone needs to approve the transaction before selling their item. That would stop this and help people who would otherwise lose out on their loom and gold.

This kind of exploded into something that I didn't want. Seeing how scripts were legal to use as of, last night? I don't think it warrants a ban, more of a warning. Banning Bullet for doing something completely within the rules on the market system is like banning horse archery from crpg and then perma-banning everyone who is currently a horse archer. All I wanted to do was to ask for my loom back and offer some money in return, because it was completely my fault, though yes, it was a rather large and costly mistake. I didn't want to get the guy banned.

You are an awesome guy. If you want help with a loom I can help you with that, I'm close to 31 and I can loom something for you. You deserve it. Bullet was an ass to you and you still have a problem with him being banned. If you want help with looms, just ask. You're a stand up guy.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Hobb on December 15, 2011, 07:50:44 pm
alrite dont be a hypocrite..... i mean how many of you wouldnt have picked up this loom if you saw it on the market??

Now most people would prob give it back after they made sure it was a sincere mistake, but cmon their are tons of us, admins included that make a fine  crpg living on pickin up cheap looms from noobs and broke people only to put up a fancy post on the forums to sell it for a nice profit.. This really isnt that different



mr.bean the explorer: wats ur steam
mr.bean the explorer: stry the guy who u scammed wants to talk to u
mr.bean the explorer: and yes i consider it scamming
Bulletproof441: lol
Bulletproof441: then
Bulletproof441: i wonder
Bulletproof441: if
Bulletproof441: you
Bulletproof441: are
Bulletproof441: not
Bulletproof441: stupid
mr.bean the explorer: the guy just wants to talk to u
mr.bean the explorer: whats ur steam
Bulletproof441: guess
Bulletproof441: what
Bulletproof441: i
Bulletproof441: dont
Bulletproof441: want
Bulletproof441: to
Bulletproof441: talk
Bulletproof441: to
Bulletproof441: him
Bulletproof441: because
Bulletproof441: i
Bulletproof441: like
Bulletproof441: this
Bulletproof441: sexy
Bulletproof441: +3
Bulletproof441: german
Bulletproof441: greatsword

just a general discution this guy has . ive been trying hard to get the loom back but he just doesnt care.


whats equally as low as bullet's comments is you posting it on steam... i mean i like you and bullet, we talk alot on steam about looms on the market... bt idk posting steam chat on forums to gain some forum e-peen??? not sure if that was a good move from some1 who conducts their "market business" through steam
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: SixThumbs on December 15, 2011, 08:39:53 pm
Now that we have a cRPG Launcher (for the launcher...) and the mod is becoming more properly "developed" why not have a little write-up for quirks like this and a general beginner's manual that highlights a few difference from native and make it a "beginner read-me" button on the launcher? Granted I would do this myself and may if I find the free time but even just including a few bullet points somewhere, like the marketplace page, stating that if you live in NA you're screwed because you denote thousands with a comma and you might want to double check your marketplace posts for errors.

I'm not aware of every player trouncing the forums and learning mechanics like this from random threads, several pages in; and of course there's a fine line between keeping the community informed on such bugs/exploits and keeping them informed to the point where they start abusing them for their own gain.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Bullet441 on December 15, 2011, 08:44:28 pm
I returned the mittens I got from prpavi after I had time to think about it. 

So the ban was for breaking a rule that was enacted after the incident that I didn't actually break... wow, the amount of sense this makes is astonishing. And I'll say it again, that chat with ricky was because he was being an asshole to me.  If he hadn't said anything in the first place I would have returned the loom almost immediately. That chat with ricky was after 5 hours of him constantly spamming me "giv it bak or we will hav problmes!" and him kicking me out of the teamspeak channel where I was playing with friends. Not only did he just copy that chat and leave out all of the crap he talked, but he also included a contrived accusation of scripting.

With the advent of the rule "Give back items you get from others' mistakes, or be permanently banned." I will happily return the loom for the price that I paid for it, but I will also request 100,000 gold on top of the gold I paid, as that is allowed, so says Meow.


Also, people. This was not bug related. He did not put a comma, he just did not check it over and realize that he missed a zero.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Braeden on December 15, 2011, 08:51:52 pm
visitors can't see pics , please register or login
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Meow on December 15, 2011, 09:04:13 pm
With the advent of the rule "Give back items you get from others' mistakes, or be permanently banned." I will happily return the loom for the price that I paid for it, but I will also request 100,000 gold on top of the gold I paid, as that is allowed, so says Meow.

Where?
I considered looking for it myself but decided to just ask in case i never said it's cool to demand 100k in return.
My memory sucks :(

Also we will demand 250k in return for an unban. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: [ptx] on December 15, 2011, 09:05:39 pm
Now, now, let us not turn this into a "Who can be the worst?" contest... :|
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Bullet441 on December 15, 2011, 09:16:36 pm
I'd rather have a community where people PM someone who screws up on the market and offer stuff back, even if a fee is involved.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Aseldo on December 15, 2011, 09:17:03 pm
lol qqing on the forum
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Meow on December 15, 2011, 09:24:38 pm
I'd rather have a community where people PM someone who screws up on the market and offer stuff back, even if a fee is involved.

Alright then we will only ask for a 100k fee for the unban.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Hobb on December 15, 2011, 09:26:54 pm


Alright then we will only ask for a 100k fee for the unban.

who gets the 100K??
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Meow on December 15, 2011, 09:30:15 pm
Calmir, right after he payed the 100k fee for getting his item back :mrgreen:
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: polkafranzi on December 15, 2011, 09:34:37 pm
Calmir, right after he payed the 100k fee for getting his item back :mrgreen:

win  :lol:
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Hobb on December 15, 2011, 09:41:39 pm
lol so the ban was for him charging for the give back??
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Meow on December 15, 2011, 09:46:32 pm
No, the ban happened at a point where he did not state anything about giving it back at all.

Just seemed like a good time to keep those fees inside a frame where i expected them.
Like 10k-20k.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Bullet441 on December 15, 2011, 09:47:41 pm
No, the ban happened at a point where he did not state anything about giving it back at all.

Just seemed like a good time to keep those fees inside a frame where i expected them.
Like 10k-20k.

50k
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Hobb on December 15, 2011, 09:50:41 pm
wait so is it a bannable offense to pick up some1's screwup price?? and their is an unoffical price for a compromise???
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: cmp on December 15, 2011, 09:57:08 pm
The ban has nothing to do with the item, it's about script usage.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Hobb on December 15, 2011, 10:02:30 pm
No, the ban happened at a point where he did not state anything about giving it back at all.Just seemed like a good time to keep those fees inside a frame where i expected them.
Like 10k-20k.

The ban has nothing to do with the item, it's about script usage.

lol a little mix up boys??

but that sounds justifyable... their is really only one reason why some1 would use that script
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: [ptx] on December 15, 2011, 10:03:54 pm
Will buy scripts for 50k.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Meow on December 15, 2011, 10:12:21 pm
lol a little mix up boys??

but that sounds justifyable... their is really only one reason why some1 would use that script

How is that a mixup?
The ban happened because of script usage at a point where he did not state anything about giving the item back at all.

I told you what it wasn't for and cmp told you what it was for...
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Hobb on December 15, 2011, 10:22:00 pm
errrr.... if this is trolling it worked because you have me utterly confused now... but their is not point arguing with u lol
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Visconti on December 15, 2011, 10:27:46 pm
errrr.... if this is trolling it worked because you have me utterly confused now... but their is not point arguing with u lol

As taser said earlier... sounds like admins being badmins, nothing new for cRPG
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Meow on December 15, 2011, 10:28:03 pm
I wish it was on purpose :(

(click to show/hide)

You asked two different questions, got an answer to both.
If this helps at all :mrgreen:
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: cmp on December 15, 2011, 10:32:57 pm
After going over the logs we decided there was no valid evidence of script using, so the ban was removed.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Hobb on December 15, 2011, 10:33:10 pm
I wish it was on purpose :(

(click to show/hide)

You asked two different questions, got an answer to both.
If this helps at all :mrgreen:

ya that makes since... wasnt trying to troll you, just didnt want bullet to get punished for no reason
 :D
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Meow on December 15, 2011, 10:48:48 pm
We would NEVER do that. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Taser on December 16, 2011, 02:38:19 am
After going over the logs we decided there was no valid evidence of script using, so the ban was removed.

Good to hear.

Glad everything worked out here. Calmir, glad you got your item back. Props to you for being a good guy. My offer to loom something for you still stands.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Calmir on December 16, 2011, 03:43:28 am
Got my item back? I think he is still debating whether or not to give it at all. Oh well, it's his choice. Dealing with people in video games is just like real life now.

Also, thank you for the offer to loom an item for me. I do appreciate the support, but you probably need the loom point. I do alright working the market. I still have 1 item I can trade around and try to make a profit on.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Meow on December 16, 2011, 03:53:25 am
Just to take that edge off you, he told me he will still return it.
Thought it was already done though.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: PieParadox on December 16, 2011, 04:17:29 am
Hehe meow is such a disarming person
 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Meow on December 16, 2011, 05:28:04 am
Yeah it was also supposed to say "the fuck return it or we go through all this again" :mrgreen:
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Kajia on December 16, 2011, 06:01:55 am
thrilling, but I had no popcorn ...!

I like how problems are solved in here - and Meow and Calmir, your roles in this film are fantastic!
still can't believe why the antagonist is still standing ... or is it a flick about forgiveness? well, I wouldn't mind, 'cause it's one about empathy too -
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: JihadistMexican on December 16, 2011, 06:03:12 am
The smartest TKoV here.

I think Bullet is/was being a prick for not giving the item back ( I don't read closely enough to see if he did ) If truthful and bullet have been shown in the past to be doing this sort of thing (script or just plain douche-baggery) they should be scolded by the community to stop these acts of childishness and be mature even on the internet. 

I think the admins are doing their jobs as indie game admins who get little support from the community (except for those golden few).  I doubt many of you who criticize them could do a better job (they are admins for a reason and your not) Also, I think people should pay attention to what they do on the market because it has proven itself to be a machine of drama and QQing. 
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Fartface on December 16, 2011, 02:19:48 pm
Quess im gonna get an script starting.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Oberyn on December 16, 2011, 02:32:09 pm
Bullet is probably of the "no matter how much of a douchebag I am, there's no rule against it so I'm going to pretend I did nothing wrong" school of thought. Another in a long line of idiots who confuse scamming with capitalism, ignoring that they are mutually exclusive.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Oberyn on December 16, 2011, 02:35:53 pm
The smartest TKoV here.

I think Bullet is/was being a prick for not giving the item back ( I don't read closely enough to see if he did ) If truthful and bullet have been shown in the past to be doing this sort of thing (script or just plain douche-baggery) they should be scolded by the community to stop these acts of childishness and be mature even on the internet. 

I think the admins are doing their jobs as indie game admins who get little support from the community (except for those golden few).  I doubt many of you who criticize them could do a better job (they are admins for a reason and your not) Also, I think people should pay attention to what they do on the market because it has proven itself to be a machine of drama and QQing.

You don't get it man. These scumbags probably think THEY are the mature ones, and that we're all whiny childish carebears because we want business to be carried out honestly and efficiently. Probably see themselves as business paragons. It's not unique to the world of video games, it's a societal thing. Adam Smith would roll in his grave if he could see how these evil cunts have co-opted and deformed his philosophies for their own profit.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Horns_Archive on December 16, 2011, 03:03:12 pm
If Ricky honestly think he can get bullet to stop than he has about as good a chance as we did, except we've known him way longer. This is just so people can stop wasting their time on this forum page. Bullet will never stop refreshing the market place every15 seconds to take advantage of others mistakes. He has done it in the past he will continue to do it. This is the same with all other people who do such things they won't stop. So stop bitching and moaning and learn from others mistakes, because the people who cause these problems are going no where... Unless they have to refresh the market place again
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Oberyn on December 16, 2011, 03:33:46 pm
Nope, these leeches deserve to be ostracized. Now everyone knows to never do business with Bullet. The wonders of the invisible hand.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Meow on December 16, 2011, 03:51:04 pm
Well, we always have this:

If your common sense is not working, here are some more specific guidelines. This is not an explicit list, common sense always overrides disputes. Do not come crying "it's not prohibited in the rules" if you invent a new creative way to be an idiot and get punished.

Pretty sure that applies for everything related to cRPG. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: SixThumbs on December 16, 2011, 05:19:56 pm
Glad the administrators use a grey area to demarcate between right and wrong, and passing judgement in a black and white fashion.
Title: Re: To Bullet
Post by: Braeden on December 16, 2011, 06:49:50 pm
Glad the administrators use a grey area to demarcate between right and wrong, and passing judgement in a black and white fashion.
You are welcome.

As this doesn't seem to have any more productive use, locking.