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Title: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: t1337Dude on December 11, 2011, 08:47:16 am
It reads "200,000" gold as "200" gold. If your field can't interpret commas, why not throw an error?

Got nabbed in seconds before I could realize my error.

Kojot, if you're reading this, congratulations on your nab.
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: Anwyl on December 11, 2011, 09:06:25 am
Quote from: t1337Dude on December 11, 2011, 08:47:16 am
It reads "200,000" gold as "200" gold. If your field can't interpret commas, why not throw an error?
Quote from: POOPHAMMER on August 24, 2011, 03:08:31 pm
There are some bugs on the marketplace that will utterly screw you over in a matter of seconds. Here are the ones I know about

Do not for any reason use a period or comma in your gold prices when posting it on the actual marketplace
Prices like 1,200,000 will read only as 1 gold, meaning that masterwork will get snatched by someone who sees it before you even realize what you did. Use straight numbers, like if you are selling an item for 800,000 take that comma out, you want to put it down for 800000 or else it will cut off at the comma and post on the actually marketplace for 800 gold.

What do you know, a stickied thread in the marketplace forum tells you exactly what will screw you.
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: Ganner on December 11, 2011, 09:08:11 am
Instead of immediately insulting the person who bought your item why not contact him and explain the mistake.
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: t1337Dude on December 11, 2011, 09:33:36 am
Quote from: Ganner on December 11, 2011, 09:08:11 am
Instead of immediately insulting the person who bought your item why not contact him and explain the mistake.

Since we all know that's worked in the past  :lol:

Quote from: Anwyl on December 11, 2011, 09:06:25 am
What do you know, a stickied thread in the marketplace forum tells you exactly what will screw you.

So I need to preemptively scan the forum for things in this game that will fuck me?

Awesome.
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: SeQuel on December 11, 2011, 09:33:52 am
Quote from: Ganner on December 11, 2011, 09:08:11 am
Instead of immediately insulting the person who bought your item why not contact him and explain the mistake.
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: t1337Dude on December 11, 2011, 09:37:02 am
Quote from: SeQuel on December 11, 2011, 09:33:52 am


I think the admins here think a little too highly of the community.

You think the guy honestly thought I wanted to sell the loom for only 200 gold?

Buncha Einsteins for admins I tell ya.
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on December 11, 2011, 09:42:20 am
Quote from: t1337Dude on December 11, 2011, 09:33:36 am
Since we all know that's worked in the past  :lol:

Actualy yea it worked, and multiple times. Wont work in your case tho, perhaps because you are an asshole
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: Meow on December 11, 2011, 10:07:26 am
Quote from: t1337Dude on December 11, 2011, 09:37:02 am
I think the admins here think a little too highly of the community.

You think the guy honestly thought I wanted to sell the loom for only 200 gold?

Buncha Einsteins for admins I tell ya.

Yeah, we OBVIOUSLY do!
Normal people would PM the person and nicely ask for the item back.
A lot of people actually grab those items off the market and return them...
Good luck! :mrgreen:

Bug needs to be fixed though...

Also i will PM the dude...
After researching a bit further... i'll PM you :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: Tzar on December 11, 2011, 10:28:53 am
And meow get our heirlooms back pretty plzzzzzzz.
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: Meow on December 11, 2011, 10:34:47 am
What did i miss?
Hit me on IRC.


@ t1337Dude
You got a PM.
Now make your posts look a bit nicer :wink:
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: Kafein on December 11, 2011, 12:25:16 pm
Quote from: t1337Dude on December 11, 2011, 09:37:02 am
You think the guy honestly thought I wanted to sell the loom for only 200 gold?

You can be sure that there is at least one person ready to buy the loom and don't give it back. For this reason, many 100% honest people buy it to give the item back (if you don't behave like an asshole).
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: Kalp on December 11, 2011, 12:37:23 pm
Quote from: t1337Dude on December 11, 2011, 08:47:16 am
It reads "200,000" gold as "200" gold. If your field can't interpret commas, why not throw an error?

Got nabbed in seconds before I could realize my error.

Kojot, if you're reading this, bravo and fuck you.
Instead of insulting someone, just learn mathematics again.
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: Meow on December 11, 2011, 12:54:24 pm
Well, to be fair i think in the US you use periods for fractional digits and commas to make large numbers more readable.

I might be misinformed though. :mrgreen:

Anyway if i understood this correctly . and , was causing this.

Also Espu is fixing it.
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: Ganner on December 11, 2011, 01:07:55 pm
Quote from: Meow on December 11, 2011, 12:54:24 pm
Well, to be fair i think in the US you use periods for fractional digits and commas to make large numbers more readable.

I might be misinformed though. :mrgreen:

Anyway if i understood this correctly . and , was causing this.

Also Espu is fixing it.

This is correct, you are indeed informed Mr Chairman.

Speaking of the marketplace, SOMEONE BUY MY +2 LONG SPEAR!
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: Spleen on December 11, 2011, 01:16:55 pm
Quote from: t1337Dude on December 11, 2011, 08:47:16 am
It reads "200,000" gold as "200" gold. If your field can't interpret commas, why not throw an error?

Got nabbed in seconds before I could realize my error.

Kojot, if you're reading this, bravo and fuck you.

Also, internationally you should use 200.000 and not 200,000 yknow

edit: Meow was faster. Damn Communists talking about mathematics...
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: Ujin on December 11, 2011, 01:20:59 pm
Kids these days, too l337 to read.
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: Dom.Miguel on December 12, 2011, 01:31:42 am
Stop using comas to spilt thousands problem solved. Use dots like real ppl
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: Christo on December 12, 2011, 01:59:09 am
Dude:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48rz8udZBmQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48rz8udZBmQ)

 :wink:
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: Patricia on December 12, 2011, 02:24:38 am
Quote from: Dom.Miguel on December 12, 2011, 01:31:42 am
Stop using comas to spilt thousands problem solved. Use dots like real ppl

"Real people" being Euroshitmy old friends in this particular case.
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: KaleLord on December 12, 2011, 03:09:05 am
People in America use Commas
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: Patricia on December 12, 2011, 03:15:28 am
Quote from: KaleLord on December 12, 2011, 03:09:05 am
People in America use Commas

Yeah but bro, Europeans use dots and only real men use dots.

Fuk 'Murika, the european way is the right way.
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: Dom.Miguel on December 12, 2011, 03:17:25 am
Quote from: Patricia on December 12, 2011, 03:15:28 am
Yeah but bro, Europeans use dots and only real men use dots.

Fuk 'Murika, the european way is the right way.

See wasn't so hard was it?
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: MrShine on December 12, 2011, 05:06:43 am
This thread is now officially an NA vs EU thread.
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: t1337Dude on December 12, 2011, 05:10:15 am
Quote from: Spleen on December 11, 2011, 01:16:55 pm
Also, internationally you should use 200.000 and not 200,000 yknow

edit: Meow was faster. Damn Communists talking about mathematics...

At that particular moment, the Euro-use of periods in place of commas in math was the last thing to cross my mind. I was high as a kite and just wanted my money   :oops:





Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: Gomer on December 12, 2011, 05:13:01 am
Quote from: Meow on December 11, 2011, 10:07:26 am
Yeah, we OBVIOUSLY do!
Normal people would PM the person and nicely ask for the item back.
A lot of people actually grab those items off the market and return them...
Good luck! :mrgreen:

Bug needs to be fixed though...

Also i will PM the dude...
After researching a bit further... i'll PM you :mrgreen:
This is why I love Meow! And tell Shik to unban me from da IRC It was funny at first but comon now perma ban for saying I took an arrow to the knee realy....
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: Turkhammer on December 12, 2011, 05:15:28 am
Quote from: Meow on December 11, 2011, 12:54:24 pm
Well, to be fair i think in the US you use periods for fractional digits and commas to make large numbers more readable.

I might be misinformed though. :mrgreen:

Anyway if i understood this correctly . and , was causing this.

Also Espu is fixing it.

You are 100% correct.  Commas are used between each third zero.  As in 200,000.
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: Turkhammer on December 12, 2011, 05:19:15 am
Quote from: Spleen on December 11, 2011, 01:16:55 pm
Also, internationally you should use 200.000 and not 200,000 yknow

edit: Meow was faster. Damn Communists talking about mathematics...

Sorry, who made the Euro method the international standard?
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: Mala on December 12, 2011, 05:32:24 am
Hmm, why you type in the dots (or commas) anyway? That is absolutely inefficient, the software does not need that and for you it is an additional keystroke.
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: Patricia on December 12, 2011, 05:33:04 am
Quote from: Turkhammer on December 12, 2011, 05:19:15 am
Sorry, who made the Euro method the international standard?

The euromy old friends of course.
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: Furax on December 12, 2011, 10:01:43 am
Always has been, the americunts just decided to move to a big island, kill all the people there then create there own fucked up system for everything. Even though it makes no sense..they just want to be special.
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: B3RS3RK on December 12, 2011, 10:03:54 am
Quote from: Turkhammer on December 12, 2011, 05:19:15 am
Sorry, who made the Euro method the international standard?

The fact that we are awesome.


Also, dont split anyway.Dots and commas are for Idiots.

If you cant be bothered to count the number of digits in the number you are writing, you fail.
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: dodnet on December 12, 2011, 11:18:56 am
You are all wrong, you should have put in "200k"  :mrgreen:

PS: Kids, dont try this at home!
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: Joker86 on December 12, 2011, 11:49:53 am
I bet the damn Euro system already existed before America was even discovered. Or at least before the USA declared independence.  :P

And btw. it should be

1.000.000 = one million
1.000.000.000 = one milliard
1.000.000.000.000 = one billion

You Americans are really awkward  :?
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: CoWorm on December 12, 2011, 12:05:11 pm
Quote from: MrShine on December 12, 2011, 05:06:43 am
This thread is now officially an NA vs EU thread.

Isn't ALL threads on this forum either a NA vs EU thread or a achery whine thread?
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: Darkkarma on December 12, 2011, 12:21:54 pm
Quote from: t1337Dude on December 11, 2011, 09:37:02 am
I think the admins here think a little too highly of the community.

You think the guy honestly thought I wanted to sell the loom for only 200 gold?

Buncha Einsteins for admins I tell ya.

My goodness, quit being so sour they are only making suggestions. And yes, you should read the forums from time to time as it does help greatly. Perhaps if you did you would realize that items have been reimbursed on several occasions. In any case, hopefully the issue gets resolved. 
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on December 12, 2011, 06:14:56 pm
comma's can't be used in csv files (comma separated values).  CSV is a delimited data format that has fields/columns separated by the comma character.

I'm assuming they use a simple CSV (excel) file to keep track of all the marketplace happenings.  You can't use comma's in CSV files or it fucks things up.   

Either that or the people who coded it are from a country where 1000's are separated by a period not a comma.  Like 200.000 vs 200,000.

Also, if you quickly glanced at the marketplace you'd see nothing listed there has any commas or periods in the values.  Sucks for you, I'd still try to contact the buyer (but unlikely they will give you back the item).
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: Spleen on December 12, 2011, 06:53:17 pm
Quote from: CrazyCracka420 on December 12, 2011, 06:14:56 pm
I'm assuming they use a simple CSV (excel) file to keep track of all the marketplace happenings.  You can't use comma's in CSV files or it fucks things up.   

Next thing you're gonna tell us you're using Access...
One thing that could possibly be the shazam behind the marketplace: a SQL Database - which you could export as a csv ofc
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: Espu on December 12, 2011, 08:13:53 pm
It is, in fact, a flat binary file of a special quality. Commas are ok there!

Also, adding non-numbers to the field is disabled nao, should help all you americanos. After next site patch, that is.
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: Meow on December 12, 2011, 08:19:06 pm
I got his bow and he is getting it back.
He just screwed up putting his offer on the market yesterday.

Or i'm blind but that would be horrible.
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: KaleLord on December 13, 2011, 07:05:06 pm
Quote from: Furax on December 12, 2011, 10:01:43 am
Always has been, the americunts just decided to move to a big island, kill all the people there then create there own fucked up system for everything. Even though it makes no sense..they just want to be special.

You know the first americunts were european right?
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on December 13, 2011, 09:26:27 pm
Quote from: Spleen on December 12, 2011, 06:53:17 pm
Next thing you're gonna tell us you're using Access...
One thing that could possibly be the shazam behind the marketplace: a SQL Database - which you could export as a csv ofc

LOL...I know excel/csv's are not a database...espu already answered the question, but what I was assuming was that a database could be outputting to a csv that we view on the webpage known as the marketplace.  And I've never heard of someone using an Access database for anything that requires external input or automated input from other applications.  But you can do anything with vbscript so I'm assuming someone's using Access in a production environment.

I'm a techy guy, but not so much when it comes to databases/coding or websites.
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: isatis on December 13, 2011, 10:58:37 pm
is Canada the only country to just put a space between number?

1 000 000 : 1 million
1 000 000 000 : 1 milliard
1 000 000 000 000: 1 billion

etc...

as always Canada have the perfect alternative!

it's way more simple

Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: Largg on December 13, 2011, 11:14:17 pm
Quote from: isatis on December 13, 2011, 10:58:37 pm
is Canada the only country to just put a space between number?

1 000 000 : 1 million
1 000 000 000 : 1 milliard
1 000 000 000 000: 1 billion

etc...

as always Canada have the perfect alternative!

it's way more simple

Too bad that fucks the trade field too. I remember putting +3 items for 1 gold on market. Lucky did the check though  :)
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: Paul on December 13, 2011, 11:18:25 pm
UK uses comma as thousands separator too. It's more a thing between english and non-english speaking countries than the usual EU vs. NA stuff.
Title: Re: Fucked by the marketplace
Post by: oohillac on December 13, 2011, 11:21:27 pm
Quote from: isatis on December 13, 2011, 10:58:37 pm
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I agree, our system is superior.  Spaces make perfect sense, these commas and periods have always confused me (especially when written by messy professors).