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Title: Archer Armor
Post by: Sarethus on November 28, 2011, 05:41:11 pm
What would be the optimal armor for a pure archer character? (24/15)
Title: Re: Archer Armor
Post by: Keshian on November 28, 2011, 05:53:29 pm
Depends - 4.5-5 weight armor if you are reliant on speed and wpf would be light leather, sarranid armor, and nomad robe are all good.

If you can afford a small wpf reduction and still shoot fine (most people can), you might want to try one of the 9.5 armors for significantly betetr survivability like lamellar and cavalry robes.

For gloves - mail mittens or leather gloves
Hats- none, or something .5 weight or less
boots, under 1 lb so rus cavalry light leather, etc.
Title: Re: Archer Armor
Post by: Ylca on November 28, 2011, 06:05:53 pm
Definitely wear a hat. Nordic Leather is what i use. A hat isn't going to save your hide every time, but it will keep you from getting one-shot by onehanders, especially with 24STR.
Title: Re: Archer Armor
Post by: Sarethus on November 29, 2011, 09:32:02 pm
Would light strange armor also be viable? it only weighs 0.3 more than studded leather (and for me personally L Strange armor is the only decent looking armor around that weight)

And thanks for all the other answers
Title: Re: Archer Armor
Post by: Digglez on November 29, 2011, 09:38:35 pm
Definitely wear a hat. Nordic Leather is what i use. A hat isn't going to save your hide every time, but it will keep you from getting one-shot by onehanders, especially with 24STR.

light & medium helms provide very slim to NO protection from being 1 shot by hornbow using bodkins or rus/long bow using cut arrows.  Its just needless reduction in your WPF
Title: Re: Archer Armor
Post by: Arrowblood on November 29, 2011, 09:38:39 pm
btw 24/15 is not pure archer
this is pure:
18/24
21/21
24/18
Title: Re: Archer Armor
Post by: Dezilagel on November 29, 2011, 10:00:29 pm
btw 24/15 is not pure archer
these are USAIN BOLT AVATARS:
18/23
21/21
18/24

Don't listen to this guy, grab some PS. You'll be doing both yourself and everyone else a favor.
Title: Re: Archer Armor
Post by: Arrowblood on November 29, 2011, 10:20:42 pm
haha i just gave some "pure" archer examples.
Title: Re: Archer Armor
Post by: Gurnisson on November 29, 2011, 10:24:49 pm
light & medium helms provide very slim to NO protection from being 1 shot by hornbow using bodkins or rus/long bow using cut arrows.  Its just needless reduction in your WPF

Still, a cheap helmet may save you from an unexpected melee hit.
Title: Re: Archer Armor
Post by: Dexxtaa on November 30, 2011, 03:12:40 am
I think you should go naked. Also, lose the bow. It'll only encumber you.
Title: Re: Archer Armor
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on November 30, 2011, 04:31:56 am
Naked is best for pure pure archery. You only want to be carrying your bow and arrows. And don't bother with ironflesh or powerstrike. In fact, only put points in powerdraw, athletics, and weapon master.
Title: Re: Archer Armor
Post by: Dezilagel on November 30, 2011, 04:32:38 am
Naked is best for pure pure archery. You only want to be carrying your bow and arrows. And don't bother with ironflesh or powerstrike. In fact, only put points in powerdraw, athletics, and weapon master.

No, athletics only.
Title: Re: Archer Armor
Post by: Sarethus on November 30, 2011, 04:49:12 am
I just found out about 0 slot onehanded weapons..and since im using a 2slot bow and two 1slot arrows i guess i can put in melee weapon right?

Maybe Pickaxe or handaxe?
Title: Re: Archer Armor
Post by: bagge on November 30, 2011, 06:48:01 am
I just found out about 0 slot onehanded weapons..and since im using a 2slot bow and two 1slot arrows i guess i can put in melee weapon right?

Maybe Pickaxe or handaxe?

Pickaxe is amazing, pierce damage n all!
Title: Re: Archer Armor
Post by: Ylca on November 30, 2011, 11:18:33 am
light & medium helms provide very slim to NO protection from being 1 shot by hornbow using bodkins or rus/long bow using cut arrows.  Its just needless reduction in your WPF

Did you even read the post you responded to? I'll bold to help you out =P



"Definitely wear a hat. Nordic Leather is what i use. A hat isn't going to save your hide every time, but it will keep you from getting one-shot by onehanders, especially with 24STR."
Title: Re: Archer Armor
Post by: karasu on November 30, 2011, 11:21:23 am
Hammer, knockdown = life saver.
Title: Re: Archer Armor
Post by: Boerenlater on November 30, 2011, 02:06:20 pm
Before the patch according to the ultimate archer guide, the Sarranid leather armour offered the best defence for it's weight (4,5) but now after the patch it is 6,1 and I don't know if it still offers the best for weight-defence ratio.
Title: Re: Archer Armor
Post by: Beat on December 01, 2011, 10:13:58 pm
I managed to work out a set of gear with 7.7 weight, which is exactly how much you can have before taking a loss to WPF.

Steppe cap with fur -   12 armor                        0.2 weight*3=0.6
Studded leather coat - 30 body, 10 leg armor   6.6 weight
Khergit leather boots - 14 armor                       0.5 weight

                    Total:  12 head, 30 body, 24 leg    7.7 weight

Before the patch I had 20 head armor, leather gloves and rus cavalry boots without going over the magic 7.7 weight.  Sacrifices had to be made.   :cry:
I know this may not help the OP much since he doesn't like the look of the studded leather, but if you spend a little time tweaking your gear you can get a nice combination without losing WPF.  Keep in mind that going slightly over 7.7 won't hurt your WPF much, just don't go too high above that.
Title: Re: Archer Armor
Post by: Legio_Spartacus on December 01, 2011, 11:29:14 pm
You just mustn't have more than 7.7weight in all you armor.
But remember:
Head Wx3
Body Wx1
Gloves Wx2
Boots Wx1
(W=weight)
Title: Re: Archer Armor
Post by: Mallets on February 03, 2013, 05:40:32 am
You just mustn't have more than 7.7weight in all you armor.
But remember:
Head Wx3
Body Wx1
Gloves Wx2
Boots Wx1
(W=weight)

Is this still true?

7.7 Weight?  Head x3?  Gloves x2?

And does this apply to Throwing as well?
Title: Re: Archer Armor
Post by: ObiWanKejoshi on February 03, 2013, 06:07:08 pm
Wasn't it more like Head x2, Gloves x4 and weight limit = 10 before the WPF penalty sets in?

Anyway, on topic:
I like running around with a Byrnie, Leather Gloves and Hunter boots, no helmet. I prefer the extra body armour over a light helmet as I've never really seen a light helmet (<1 weight) save my life.
When i want to use a helmet, i go for one of the ~30 Head armour ones and a Padded Leather armour.

Note: I'm not a pure archer though, 21/18 archer/1H hybrid.
As a pure archer you might want to get at least some head armour against though occasional throwing daggers/etc.
Alternatively you can try to keep your weight as low as possible and always run away from all fights, but that'll be really hard with the new Arrow weight. And people will hate you (even more than non-kiting archers :P )
Title: Re: Archer Armor
Post by: Commodore_Axephante on February 03, 2013, 06:57:16 pm
Yes to everyone who suggested naked. Nudity = bravery = victory.
Title: Re: Archer Armor
Post by: bigsean on February 04, 2013, 04:19:53 pm
Its 10 weight now, forgot the multipliers but boots and body are x1
Title: Re: Archer Armor
Post by: Templar_Steevee on February 06, 2013, 09:45:13 pm
All what you need to know about archer armour is you can't go over 10 weigth
Head armour is 2*weigth
hand armour is 4*weigth
Body and leg armour is weisth with no multiplier

It's a good idea to have a head armour, you won't die in one-hit from 1h, unless they are mounted. You can also survive hit from heavy lance on low speed :D
IMO best body armour is atm heavy aketon, you can took with it proper gloves and head armour.
You shouldn't take care about leg armour, boots for archer are only for good looking :D
Title: Re: Archer Armor
Post by: Mallets on February 06, 2013, 11:45:56 pm
All what you need to know about archer armour is you can't go over 10 weigth
Head armour is 2*weigth
hand armour is 4*weigth
Body and leg armour is weisth with no multiplier

It's a good idea to have a head armour, you won't die in one-hit from 1h, unless they are mounted. You can also survive hit from heavy lance on low speed :D
IMO best body armour is atm heavy aketon, you can took with it proper gloves and head armour.
You shouldn't take care about leg armour, boots for archer are only for good looking :D

Super thanks Steevee (and everyone that replied)!

1) Does this apply to Throwing or Crossbows as well?  Or just Archery?

2) Is the running-Athletics cap still at 6.3kg?  Hope this makes sense.  I remember back in the day, there being something where if you went over 6.3kg total weight, it would start to slow you down... or something like that.  A better way of saying it might be... if you are under 6.3, your armor would not effect your run speed.