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Title: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Corwin on November 14, 2011, 09:44:05 pm
Mod dead? Everyone playing Battlefield or MW3?
People quitting in protest because Panos is permabanned?
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Cepeshi on November 14, 2011, 09:44:53 pm
yes
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Gurnisson on November 14, 2011, 09:45:58 pm
Panos is swirling around on Nordmen now. :lol:
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: LordBerenger on November 14, 2011, 09:48:17 pm
Mod dead? Everyone playing Battlefield or MW3?
People quitting in protest because Panos is permabanned?

At fifteen, I had the will to  learn ; at thirty, I could stand ; at forty, I had no  doubts ; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding ;  at sixty, my ears were opened ; at seventy, I could  do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the  square.. Let's go kill stupid vodka drunk communists in BF3.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Corwin on November 14, 2011, 09:49:02 pm
False advertising!
Or, is it?
C'mon Sefronz, admit it. The only reason why you banned Panos was that he would play on Nord server, so that players would leave EU1 and go there.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: HarunYahya on November 14, 2011, 09:49:39 pm
People quitting in protest because Panos is permabanned?
This.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: CoWorm on November 14, 2011, 09:58:04 pm
Looking at my friendslist on steam  I'd say Skyrim is to blame.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Arrowblood on November 14, 2011, 09:59:42 pm
only 25 people today morning :shock:
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 14, 2011, 10:05:13 pm
Mod dead? Everyone playing Battlefield or MW3 Skyrim?

Yup. Be back later.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Lech on November 14, 2011, 10:24:37 pm
Skryim sucks. Don't have good melee combat = worthless. Maybe if codders implement mnb combat and multiplayer and dual wielding.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Spawny on November 14, 2011, 10:33:05 pm
Skyrim stole most of the templars too...
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 14, 2011, 10:34:18 pm
There are only two people on my friend list who are not playing it right now  :lol:
I think I am about to play it as well...
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Templar_Ratigan on November 14, 2011, 10:40:41 pm
Skryim sucks. Don't have good melee combat = worthless. Maybe if codders implement mnb combat and multiplayer and dual wielding.

It does have duel wielding. I can tell you have not played it.

And if you think M&B has good melee combat.......ho ho ho. The directional blocking isnt particularly fresh and is really about learning the reflexes required to move the mouse at the right time, rather than skill this is merely a learned reaction that anyone could pick up in time.
As for general combat, it isnt much more than feinting and dancing about in backwards circles, occasionally sliding around slower people, more learned reflexes in fact. The only decent melee skill worth being proud about is chambering, something I love to see.

After all this, how you perform is made up from gear/level and just a touch of random chance.

Oh but I forgot you use a shield, you rarely need to implement the blocking system, but dont worry in skyrim you only need to hold right mouse to block anyhow, you ought to be right at home. 

But facetious observations aside, if you play a game like Skyrim just for it's combat, you shouldn't have purchased it in the first place.

The main thing about Skyrim is it allows me to play how I want to, unlike crpg where doing so is slowly being turned into a non-option.

The entertainment and originality of this module was killed off a while ago, I pray that it doesnt happen to other games I like.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Xant on November 14, 2011, 10:49:47 pm
Yes, Skyrim is to blame. Everyone in my friendlist and in every group I'm in is playing Skyrim :lol:
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Christo on November 14, 2011, 10:51:55 pm
At fifteen, I had the will to  learn ; at thirty, I could stand ; at forty, I had no  doubts ; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding ;  at sixty, my ears were opened ; at seventy, I could  do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the  square..
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: RandomDude on November 14, 2011, 10:52:32 pm
Looking at my friendslist on steam  I'd say Skyrim is to blame.

Yeah 80% of my friends list is playing skyrim

fuckers
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Gristle on November 14, 2011, 10:54:55 pm
I played both Oblivion and Fallout 3. Skyrim, from what I've seen and heard, just combined elements from these 2 games into 1 game, added the new dual wielding, then dumbed it down by removing features that older Elder Scrolls games had. OK, that could be a fun game, but is it worth $60 when I could just play an older Bethesda game? With more features?

"I bought it for the modding community."

Oblivion and Morrowind still have active modding communities. Just play those and save $60.

This is the company that introduced the plague of DLC (horse armor, just $2!). I like them less and less with every new release.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 14, 2011, 10:58:14 pm
Well

1 Skyrim was given to me for free so imma play the crap out of it, especially since I like talking to friends about mutual games we play. That is part of the fun.

2 Skyrim brought back the concept of "people like different environments" so it feels like a real world again and not "a copy pasted tweaked stone fort" and I do love exploration.

3 Skyrim I like for the stories it tells, as with the other The Elder Scrolls games, and enjoy piecing together the hidden little optional secrets. I never played any of them for the melee mechanics in truth.

4 Skyrim is a pretty game.

5 I can understand it not being a game for everyone. For me though, it pleasantly exceeded expectations.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Xant on November 14, 2011, 11:00:12 pm
I played both Oblivion and Fallout 3. Skyrim, from what I've seen and heard, just combined elements from these 2 games into 1 game, added the new dual wielding, then dumbed it down by removing features that older Elder Scrolls games had. OK, that could be a fun game, but is it worth $60 when I could just play an older Bethesda game? With more features?

... Wat? Older Bethesda game with more features?  :lol:

You've heard and seen wrong. Your post is one of the most retarded things I have read in a good while, sorry.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 14, 2011, 11:02:58 pm
They removed stats not features for the most part.

but seriously, the old level up system could be so abused, and it only took a few hours at best before realizing "wait... I can so abuse this for nothing but +5 stat increases without even trying."

I just miss my spears (crossbows... not so much). That in my opinion is a shame.

And besides, Magic in the latest game is in my opinion the best of both worlds from ES III and ES IV now that we can fly about again.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Teeth on November 14, 2011, 11:11:10 pm
Skryim sucks. Don't have good melee combat = worthless. Maybe if codders implement mnb combat and multiplayer and dual wielding.
Which is way you go all Palpatine on peoples asses and lightning to fuck out of them. Or any other of the cool mage shit. Melee combat isn't all there is to it.

Skyrim is definitely to blame in my direct environment.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: LordBerenger on November 14, 2011, 11:16:01 pm
Anyone found a annoying fan in Skyrim so far? And is there a Arena? Lol
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: dreadnok on November 14, 2011, 11:17:16 pm
I played both Oblivion and Fallout 3. Skyrim, from what I've seen and heard, just combined elements from these 2 games into 1 game, added the new dual wielding, then dumbed it down by removing features that older Elder Scrolls games had. OK, that could be a fun game, but is it worth $60 when I could just play an older Bethesda game? With more features?

"I bought it for the modding community."

Oblivion and Morrowind still have active modding communities. Just play those and save $60.

This is the company that introduced the plague of DLC (horse armor, just $2!). I like them less and less with every new release.

could not be farther from the truth. it is thee most amazing gma ei have ever played. i thoguht it was going to be the same shit, and boy was i wrong
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Maximus101 on November 14, 2011, 11:22:23 pm
could not be farther from the truth. it is thee most amazing gma ei have ever played. i thoguht it was going to be the same shit, and boy was i wrong
. SHIII...... I want it now :mad:. Sadly I have to wait alllllll the time till the weekend. Although I have brought mw3..... Let's just say I have already gone back go crpg and leave out an all caps rage tht will probz ban me  :cry:
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: The_Angle on November 14, 2011, 11:23:46 pm
Why won't the voices stop?
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on November 14, 2011, 11:55:44 pm
All but one is playing Skyrim. And that's because his computer can't run it  :lol:
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Dioxete on November 15, 2011, 12:12:25 am
I quit because crpg got boring and boring, it's not about the new games :/

also hitboxes+positional lag pissed me off.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Leshma on November 15, 2011, 01:13:04 am
c-rpg needs major overhaul.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: B3RS3RK on November 15, 2011, 01:16:51 am
It´s Just skyrim.In about a Month everybody will be playing cRPG again.

/edit: EARTHD!Why did you give me -1?Just for your knowledge, I didnt mean it´s "Just" skyrim, I meant that the reason for people not playing cRPG is only Skyrim and none other.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 15, 2011, 01:19:09 am
Im just sitting and waiting for the next patch, if there is going to be one.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: The_Angle on November 15, 2011, 01:24:48 am
Take me by surprise - patch the game.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Laufknoten on November 15, 2011, 01:31:10 am
Playing Skyrim ~6 hours each day, just like 80% of my steam mates...  xD Yeah, Skyrim killed this mod for the moment, but I think in a few weeks EU1 will be filled again. :) 
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: LordBerenger on November 15, 2011, 01:50:04 am
It´s Just skyrim.In about a Month everybody will be playing cRPG again.

/edit: EARTHD!Why did you give me -1?Just for your knowledge, I didnt mean it´s "Just" skyrim, I meant that the reason for people not playing cRPG is only Skyrim and none other.

And BF3...and MW3..and Porn. And Real Life that only got 4/10 on metacritic.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on November 15, 2011, 02:03:43 am
SKYRIM.
(I'm one of those people who can't run OR afford it.  :lol: cRPG4Life homies!)
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: v/onMega on November 15, 2011, 08:03:15 am
Might consider buying it.

Allthough I played rfactor for 14 hours, Saturday to Sunday and filled gaps with bf3 and il2....

I think i have a huge time problem allrdy...so it might just wont be worth it...:-X....dont know where to get additional hours for other games....

I mean....work, girlfriend.....sleeping...food....the days are too short!
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Cepeshi on November 15, 2011, 08:06:25 am
I mean....work, girlfriend.....sleeping...food....the days are too short!

this makes it hard for me to keep up JUST  in crpg lol
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Vibe on November 15, 2011, 08:17:03 am
http://store.steampowered.com/stats/

Current Players    Peak Today         Game
 
113,019    287,411         The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
16,663    45,216         Team Fortress 2
16,258    86,832         Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 - Multiplayer
11,350    67,934         Counter-Strike
9,461    53,677         Counter-Strike: Source
9,303    62,866         Football Manager 2012
7,612    22,333         Sid Meier's Civilization V
6,923    38,277         Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3
5,675    5,854         Saints Row the Third
4,773    11,448         DC Universe Online

/thread
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Gomer on November 15, 2011, 08:18:57 am
http://store.steampowered.com/stats/

Current Players    Peak Today         Game
 
113,019    287,411         The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
16,663    45,216         Team Fortress 2
16,258    86,832         Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 - Multiplayer
11,350    67,934         Counter-Strike
9,461    53,677         Counter-Strike: Source
9,303    62,866         Football Manager 2012
7,612    22,333         Sid Meier's Civilization V
6,923    38,277         Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3
5,675    5,854         Saints Row the Third
4,773    11,448         DC Universe Online

/thread


Hat Fortress still hanging in there :P
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: LordBerenger on November 15, 2011, 10:53:43 am
Saints Row 3 haters gonna hate.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: SchokoSchaf on November 15, 2011, 11:14:19 am
Games are too easy this day. They're always like "do this, do that". Not like morrowind and the "you are here. now be gone - wtf?" beginning. But then again, only high schoolers have enough time to enjoy such open worlds. Crappy casual players! Nostalgia ain't what it used to be.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: dodnet on November 15, 2011, 11:26:46 am
I didn't want to buy Skyrim, but couldn't hold myself back yesterday. So blame Skyrim  :twisted:
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Leshma on November 15, 2011, 11:56:46 am
Games are too easy this day. They're always like "do this, do that". Not like morrowind and the "you are here. now be gone - wtf?" beginning. But then again, only high schoolers have enough time to enjoy such open worlds. Crappy casual players! Nostalgia ain't what it used to be.

I can't play Skyrim mainly because I've finished Morrowind fully (100%, every single quest done). When Oblivion came out, I've tried it, finished the main story but couldn't bother to finish it because the game was poorly designed (no adventuring at all...) and I got sick of Bethesda quests. Then I've played Fallouts and again those BethSoft quests again (but game was fun to explore). After that I've finally picked Gothic 3 with community patch and was stunned how better it is than Oblivion. It's epic game for adventurers because of three completely different regions (like in Morrowind).

Now there is Skyrim which is basically Morrowind with some features taken out, some new features, same ol' BethSoft quests and a lot of snowy mountains. If anyone can tell me that I'll find some city or place or anything that doesn't look like the first 3 starting towns I'll continue playing for the sake of adventuring. But finishing crappy BS main quest and silly side quests isn't my cup of tea anymore.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Xant on November 15, 2011, 12:21:57 pm
Every city I've been in has been unique.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Tovi on November 15, 2011, 01:53:52 pm
I don't see the problem with that kind of games. It's always the same : big marketing, nice graphics. From 20 to 100 hours of solo play. Wich means 10 days for heavy gamers.
You killed many IA  with a soda in your left hand. Not so different from watching an hollywood movie IMO...
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: wayyyyyne on November 15, 2011, 02:09:36 pm
ITT: people who haven't played skyrim yet
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Mustikki on November 15, 2011, 02:19:44 pm
One big thing i have noticed on the TES serie.
The game has come a lot easier since morrowind and it is weakening the fun to play it.
i.e. with options to take quest pointers out from the game would add a lot for it.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Corwin on November 15, 2011, 02:46:25 pm
Fuck you all with Skyrim talk! Thread is not about that.

Is this mod dead or what?

Are the gods punishing cRPG for permabanning Panos?

Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: RandomDude on November 15, 2011, 03:02:50 pm
One big thing i have noticed on the TES serie.
The game has come a lot easier since morrowind and it is weakening the fun to play it.
i.e. with options to take quest pointers out from the game would add a lot for it.

Lol ill never forget taking High Elf and starting with heavy armour and longsword. Trying to kill just a mudcrab was an effort lol...
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Fasader on November 15, 2011, 03:20:58 pm
You can turn off the active quest and you won't get the pointers.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: sharker807 on November 15, 2011, 03:25:24 pm
this mod ended when they just nerfed everything to much, it's just got boring, bring the old style crpg from 2010
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Wildling on November 15, 2011, 07:14:46 pm
Stopped playing after the last patch. Couldn't bother with all the nerfes, really. Before that, I played 24/7, it fucking rocked. Sadly, I doubt they'll change anything.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: HuskerRall on November 15, 2011, 07:54:12 pm
talking bout Skyrim eh?

I can't help but notice, how the gameplay is console-dumbdown

With all the cool graphics, and big budget and +2 year develop, couldn't they take the combat melee mechanics of MB:WB?

seriously is this mod dead? NA player here, only 50+ on battle and siege is deserted WTF!  and I just got another WB key for my brother ..sigh..
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Leshma on November 15, 2011, 08:02:42 pm
You can turn off the active quest and you won't get the pointers.

Yes you can, but game is still easy.

I always liked realistic games and realistic RPGs are my favourite. That's why I like games made by Piranha Bytes and BethSoft the most.

Skyrim imho is as good as patched Gothic 3 (really good game by todays standards) but I would like something more realistic.

For example, I would like to play RPG without journal, inventory, hp bar, char indicators and without hints. Also quests will have to be non-linear and completely independent of my actions or presence (no silly switches when my char get near). Also dialogs would have to be like in those textual adventures where you type the questions and get the answers (most kids nowadays wouldn't be able get any info at all).

In short: you can't carry more than 40/60/80 kilos and run, without bags you can't do anything else while carrying stuff, you manually put stuff into bags you can't fight properly if your limbs are injured (something fallout has but elder scrolls games don't), you have to sleep/eat/drink (unless you have special perk or are an vampire), you don't have automated journal, instead you have to write stuff you think are important, you ask questions you want not the predefined questions, you're leveling in the background and only feedback you will get is from fighting (no stats page) etc.

Now that would be the game I'll willingly waste a quarter of my day. Being 25 years old and someone who's playing actively video games for 14 years, who wasted 3 months of his life on Elder Scrolls III, who saw major improvement in PC graphics both after ESIII and ESIV came out, I must say that Skyrim is really good game by today's standards.

But actually for me, it's the game which belongs to the past and I'm again saddened that 10 years has passed and nothing worth of mention has happened in gaming industry.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Keshian on November 15, 2011, 08:03:16 pm
Lol ill never forget taking High Elf and starting with heavy armour and longsword. Trying to kill just a mudcrab was an effort lol...

I decided not to waste 60 bucks and just started playing Morrowind again after several years.  So much fun.  I was getting my ass kicked by rats at the beginning.  The world was so much more immersive and with a depth of story, more similar to the 2nd one - Daggerfall, than oblivion (couldn't even get past halfway without being bored out of my mind).  Morrowind is probably only 5 bucks used now for those of you on a budget and if you have never played, probably a  far better game than what is coming out now.  Graphics were plenty good then and time was actually taken to develop a real story.


Leshma - get a dos emulator, find the game "Darklands" in abandonware website and you will have found exactly what you are looking for (might like "Betrayal at Krondor" too).  I go back and play great games like that and the gold box games from the early 1990s all the time, so much more fun than most graphics-dependent games that have the writing and story of a tv sitcom.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Gnjus on November 15, 2011, 08:07:25 pm
bla, bla, bla

You're living in dreams.  :)

I had these exact thoughts (a bit extended) some years ago but i realized it's not gonna happen anytime soon. We'd all make great "game developers" in theoretical part but when it comes to actually getting it done........we fail.
(click to show/hide)
  :)
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: LordBerenger on November 15, 2011, 08:22:33 pm
You're living in dreams.  :)

I had these exact thoughts (a bit extended) some years ago but i realized it's not gonna happen anytime soon. We'd all make great "game developers" in theoretical part but when it comes to actually getting it done........we fail.
(click to show/hide)
  :)
(click to show/hide)

Greedy?
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: SchokoSchaf on November 15, 2011, 08:34:46 pm
Leshma - get a dos emulator, find the game "Darklands" in abandonware website and you will have found exactly what you are looking for (might like "Betrayal at Krondor" too).  I go back and play great games like that and the gold box games from the early 1990s all the time, so much more fun than most graphics-dependent games that have the writing and story of a tv sitcom.

Never got that running, but I played "Return to Krondor" more than just once, though it's not very open world.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Keshian on November 15, 2011, 08:36:52 pm
Never got that running, but I played "Return to Krondor" more than just once, though it's not very open world.

No, no, no.  Return to Krondor was shit, linear, graphic driven game for its time.  It tried to get the same following as the original, but never even came close, which was a wide-open, non-linear world with a massive amount of story behind it (I think it probably outsold its sequel, it was one of the top games of 1995).

You just have to get Dosbox emulator and you can run any of these games.  Just download it from an abandonware site for free.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Xant on November 15, 2011, 09:45:57 pm
Yes you can, but game is still easy.

I always liked realistic games and realistic RPGs are my favourite. That's why I like games made by Piranha Bytes and BethSoft the most.

Skyrim imho is as good as patched Gothic 3 (really good game by todays standards) but I would like something more realistic.

For example, I would like to play RPG without journal, inventory, hp bar, char indicators and without hints. Also quests will have to be non-linear and completely independent of my actions or presence (no silly switches when my char get near). Also dialogs would have to be like in those textual adventures where you type the questions and get the answers (most kids nowadays wouldn't be able get any info at all).

In short: you can't carry more than 40/60/80 kilos and run, without bags you can't do anything else while carrying stuff, you manually put stuff into bags you can't fight properly if your limbs are injured (something fallout has but elder scrolls games don't), you have to sleep/eat/drink (unless you have special perk or are an vampire), you don't have automated journal, instead you have to write stuff you think are important, you ask questions you want not the predefined questions, you're leveling in the background and only feedback you will get is from fighting (no stats page) etc.

Now that would be the game I'll willingly waste a quarter of my day. Being 25 years old and someone who's playing actively video games for 14 years, who wasted 3 months of his life on Elder Scrolls III, who saw major improvement in PC graphics both after ESIII and ESIV came out, I must say that Skyrim is really good game by today's standards.

But actually for me, it's the game which belongs to the past and I'm again saddened that 10 years has passed and nothing worth of mention has happened in gaming industry.

A game like that wouldn't sell and most of us would find that horribly boring. Why don't you just "house-rule" those things? Most of what you say can be achieved in Skyrim, you just self-enforce it.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Kajia on November 15, 2011, 10:20:23 pm
I can't play Skyrim mainly because I've finished Morrowind fully (100%, every single quest done). When Oblivion came out, I've tried it, finished the main story but couldn't bother to finish it because the game was poorly designed (no adventuring at all...) and I got sick of Bethesda quests. Then I've played Fallouts and again those BethSoft quests again (but game was fun to explore). After that I've finally picked Gothic 3 with community patch and was stunned how better it is than Oblivion. It's epic game for adventurers because of three completely different regions (like in Morrowind).

Now there is Skyrim which is basically Morrowind with some features taken out, some new features, same ol' BethSoft quests and a lot of snowy mountains. If anyone can tell me that I'll find some city or place or anything that doesn't look like the first 3 starting towns I'll continue playing for the sake of adventuring. But finishing crappy BS main quest and silly side quests isn't my cup of tea anymore.

For example, I would like to play RPG without journal, inventory, hp bar, char indicators and without hints. Also quests will have to be non-linear and completely independent of my actions or presence (no silly switches when my char get near). Also dialogs would have to be like in those textual adventures where you type the questions and get the answers (most kids nowadays wouldn't be able get any info at all).

In short: you can't carry more than 40/60/80 kilos and run, without bags you can't do anything else while carrying stuff, you manually put stuff into bags you can't fight properly if your limbs are injured (something fallout has but elder scrolls games don't), you have to sleep/eat/drink (unless you have special perk or are an vampire), you don't have automated journal, instead you have to write stuff you think are important, you ask questions you want not the predefined questions, you're leveling in the background and only feedback you will get is from fighting (no stats page) etc.

Now that would be the game I'll willingly waste a quarter of my day. Being 25 years old and someone who's playing actively video games for 14 years, who wasted 3 months of his life on Elder Scrolls III, who saw major improvement in PC graphics both after ESIII and ESIV came out, I must say that Skyrim is really good game by today's standards.

But actually for me, it's the game which belongs to the past and I'm again saddened that 10 years has passed and nothing worth of mention has happened in gaming industry.

I like your taste. Morrowind is by far the most interesting game I've ever played. Gothic 1-2 is my all time favorite in terms of story and roughness, oh those great characters, I fuckin love them! I would like to be able to play the first two gothics on my win7 pc again ... bad windows ... Gothic 3 with packs is still enjoyable but I'd like if it would have had a more believable storyline, and a middleway alternative to rebels and bad guys - no more mercenaries? wtf ... but it's still Piranha Bytes humor :D

If you like something exciting and hard I can recommend S.T.A.L.K.E.R. (Maybe Metro 2033, but I didn't play it yet) - it's pretty rough to get along with all the mutants and guys and with few ammo and health stuff. stuff is heavy, wounds are bad, discovering things is fun, atmosphere is the thickest I've seen in a shooter until now, soundtrack is creepy, graphics is well enough. call of prypiat is the latest one with the fewest issues. also story is told well and interesting. I can speak for CoP and SoC only though.

Did I mention I'll make games one day? I am working hard on it, I study. I tried to suggest a more realistic design of cRPG ... you may have read the comments ... you see: people are not up for it.
To speak professional: games play in virtual reality and that encourages fiction. fiction is most likely opposed to realism. I don't see a killer argument in this (realism in games), because it's not wrong to connect playing and gaming with the real world in narration. Not wrong at all - but it's not a simple game anymore - it's more like, yeah, virtual reality. not simply entertaining: more like semi-living, trial-and-error-learning, interactive art.

A game like that wouldn't sell and most of us would find that horribly boring. Why don't you just "house-rule" those things? Most of what you say can be achieved in Skyrim, you just self-enforce it.

Yeah, make your own mod. Can't be that hard :)
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Xant on November 15, 2011, 10:27:01 pm
Don't even need to make a mod. Just decide to eat every 6 hours, for example. Or carry only 60 lb of stuff. If that's your thing.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Kajia on November 15, 2011, 10:31:12 pm
hm, you'd have to be very disciplined with yourself. it it's not necessary in the game then people would forget it normally. thats the way it goes with games rhetoric. game design isn't for the lulz.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Osiris on November 15, 2011, 11:11:44 pm
I dont understand! can people not play more then one game at a time? :D its like you people can ONLY play Skyrim for 5 hours a day or crpg
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on November 15, 2011, 11:51:18 pm
After Skyrim came out i cant play anything else, just seems dull
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Leshma on November 16, 2011, 12:03:03 am
Don't even need to make a mod. Just decide to eat every 6 hours, for example. Or carry only 60 lb of stuff. If that's your thing.

You know what, smartass?

Do you see that wall right in front of you?

Imagine it's a screen, then imagine wonderful real life state of the art graphics, million times better than Skyrim. It's already epic, isn't it?

But we're not done yet. Now imagine combat system ten times more complex than the one M&B has, with all the mounted combat (dragon mounts, bear mounts, mammoth mounts just imagine the possibilities).

Then imagine yourself being in the game, famous and rich and all the bundle of stickss you've met while playing c-rpg begging for spare change while you're in diamond armour on a Fenrir you've tamed yourself during a quest of blah blah blah. And everywhere on the street people shout: Xant! Xant! Here comes the great champion Xant! He's so handsome! He's so well endowed!

It's really something, isn't it? Imagination I mean.

But I want to play the damn game, not to imagine things..
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: LordBerenger on November 16, 2011, 12:11:21 am
You know what, smartass?

Do you see that wall right in front of you?

Imagine it's a screen, then imagine wonderful real life state of the art graphics, million times better than Skyrim. It's already epic, isn't it?

But we're not done yet. Now imagine combat system ten times more complex than the one M&B has, with all the mounted combat (dragon mounts, bear mounts, mammoth mounts just imagine the possibilities).

Then imagine yourself being in the game, famous and rich and all the bundle of stickss you've met while playing c-rpg begging for spare change while you're in diamond armour on a Fenrir you've tamed yourself during a quest of blah blah blah. And everywhere on the street people shout: Xant! Xant! Here comes the great champion Xant! He's so handsome! He's so well endowed!

It's really something, isn't it? Imagination I mean.

But I want to play the damn game, not to imagine things..

Xant is a humble man. He doesn't need dat shiet.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Kafein on November 16, 2011, 12:16:01 am
I can't play Skyrim (damn paypal turtles), but it's already stealing my cRPG time because I don't want to play cRPG for some reason x)

I dont understand! can people not play more then one game at a time? :D its like you people can ONLY play Skyrim for 5 hours a day or crpg

Exactly this. Although there's an answer. Most people don't have that much free time. Only one game got me hooked so far that I couldn't play anything else, even when I was free the whole day, and it was cRPG one year ago (between the day I joined and January 2011). Now I don't play many games because I have like 5 projets at once to do. That does change your gaming habits a lot.

However, I don't understand people that have plenty of free time and still play ONE game during two years. There are so many other interesting things to do. Other games included.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Xant on November 16, 2011, 12:16:53 am
You know what, smartass?

Do you see that wall right in front of you?

Imagine it's a screen, then imagine wonderful real life state of the art graphics, million times better than Skyrim. It's already epic, isn't it?

But we're not done yet. Now imagine combat system ten times more complex than the one M&B has, with all the mounted combat (dragon mounts, bear mounts, mammoth mounts just imagine the possibilities).

Then imagine yourself being in the game, famous and rich and all the bundle of stickss you've met while playing c-rpg begging for spare change while you're in diamond armour on a Fenrir you've tamed yourself during a quest of blah blah blah. And everywhere on the street people shout: Xant! Xant! Here comes the great champion Xant! He's so handsome! He's so well endowed!

It's really something, isn't it? Imagination I mean.

But I want to play the damn game, not to imagine things..

I wasn't being a smart ass. But hey, suit yourself. If it's too hard to to restrict yourself from doing things that you dislike doing or actually (gasp!) press "eat" on the food you're carrying every now and then (you want the game to force you...) then, well... continue whining about the game not being a real-life simulator, eh?
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Kafein on November 16, 2011, 12:19:30 am
Yes you can, but game is still easy.

I always liked realistic games and realistic RPGs are my favourite. That's why I like games made by Piranha Bytes and BethSoft the most.

Skyrim imho is as good as patched Gothic 3 (really good game by todays standards) but I would like something more realistic.

For example, I would like to play RPG without journal, inventory, hp bar, char indicators and without hints. Also quests will have to be non-linear and completely independent of my actions or presence (no silly switches when my char get near). Also dialogs would have to be like in those textual adventures where you type the questions and get the answers (most kids nowadays wouldn't be able get any info at all).

In short: you can't carry more than 40/60/80 kilos and run, without bags you can't do anything else while carrying stuff, you manually put stuff into bags you can't fight properly if your limbs are injured (something fallout has but elder scrolls games don't), you have to sleep/eat/drink (unless you have special perk or are an vampire), you don't have automated journal, instead you have to write stuff you think are important, you ask questions you want not the predefined questions, you're leveling in the background and only feedback you will get is from fighting (no stats page) etc.

Now that would be the game I'll willingly waste a quarter of my day. Being 25 years old and someone who's playing actively video games for 14 years, who wasted 3 months of his life on Elder Scrolls III, who saw major improvement in PC graphics both after ESIII and ESIV came out, I must say that Skyrim is really good game by today's standards.

But actually for me, it's the game which belongs to the past and I'm again saddened that 10 years has passed and nothing worth of mention has happened in gaming industry.


YOU
NEED TO
PLAY
TABLETOP RPGs !!!


Everything you want is there. Better, you'll make friends !
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Kafein on November 16, 2011, 12:29:51 am
I wasn't being a smart ass. But hey, suit yourself. If it's too hard to to restrict yourself from doing things that you dislike doing or actually (gasp!) press "eat" on the food you're carrying every now and then (you want the game to force you...) then, well... continue whining about the game not being a real-life simulator, eh?

When there's no restricition, you actually have to think about doing it yourself. And you don't think about it in a natural way like "I need to eat", you think about it like "I should consume that food because I want the game to be more realistic", and it ruins the immersion.


Hopefully, mods for removing HUD elements/assistance/quest pointers etc. and food/sleeping related mods will be out very soon. I guess the AI will need a little revamp like always. And by the look of the vanilla game, I think the graphics maniac modders will release texture packs, wheather enhancements, HDR etc. mods within months.

What's great with Bethesda games since Morrowind, is their policy towards mods. They let everyone mod the game the way they like, and help modders with powerful tools, then when they create a new game, they "steal" ideas from some of the best and most popular mods and integrate them into the new game. The mods people use is one of the best way to get feedback. And they really use it. It's very clear between Oblivion and Fallout 3 (if you forget for a moment that Fallout 3 was a terrible Fallout. It's a TES : Fallout 3 and everyones knows it), they took many good ideas from mods.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Lech on November 16, 2011, 01:32:04 am
Problem with TES series is simple, it's damn SINGLE PLAYER. You play against SKILL-LESS BOTS who fight in easy to predict pattern and you as a player can exploit the shit out of their poor ai. This alone make this game virtually unplayable.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on November 16, 2011, 04:49:26 am

YOU
NEED TO
PLAY
TABLETOP RPGs !!!

PLUS ONE.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Gomer on November 16, 2011, 05:00:21 am
PLUS ONE.
NERD NERD NERD NERD NERD NERD NERD NERD NERD NERD NERD NERD GAYPORN NERD NERD NERD NERD NERD NERD NERD  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on November 16, 2011, 05:05:45 am
I cannot deny. Although I haven't played warhammer for nearly a decade... only because I couldn't afford it anymore.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Gomer on November 16, 2011, 05:11:20 am
I cannot deny. Although I haven't played warhammer for nearly a decade... only because I couldn't afford it anymore.

My monitor cost more then my toaster with internet computer....... ($300)
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Leesin on November 16, 2011, 07:51:38 am
Problem with TES series is simple, it's damn SINGLE PLAYER. You play against SKILL-LESS BOTS who fight in easy to predict pattern and you as a player can exploit the shit out of their poor ai. This alone make this game virtually unplayable.

Plays just fine on my end, bots are actually smarter than the ones in Mount and Blade too.  :lol:
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Vibe on November 16, 2011, 07:55:05 am
Well, bots run away and kite you. That's enough AI for me D:
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on November 16, 2011, 10:36:20 am
Shut your lying no good filthy imperial mouths!

Down with empire! Up with the ladies skirts!

Plays just fine on my end, bots are actually smarter than the ones in Mount and Blade too.  :lol:

Try jumping in a fast moving river next time something chases you, and listen to this.
(click to show/hide)
Its pretty funny watching stuff chase you and get all glitched out on the rocks.

Try kiting the dragons, also fun.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Vibe on November 16, 2011, 10:42:55 am
Oh yeah, i noticed rivers have currents? Or was it something else :P
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: SchokoSchaf on November 16, 2011, 10:53:28 am
I always wonder how people who are fascinated of Skyrim have time to post in here.
Oh and because of that stupid post of dangah I want it to be summer right now! Damn you!
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Paul on November 16, 2011, 10:55:53 am
I'd actually like to have an hardcore immersion mod. Not everyone's thing but I'd love it. It would include:

- removal of fast travel
- need to eat, drink and sleep, maybe accelerated by activity such as fighting (after clearing a dungeon one should be tired)
- in return getting rid of time compression or at least nerfing it
- making crafting and enchanting gains more difficult at higher levels, for example not improving with crafting cheap ass iron daggers after a certain point(with that an aspiring crafter would have to hunt for rare materials to reach master level)
- giving each material strengths and weaknesses to make item choice less linear
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on November 16, 2011, 11:59:47 am
I'd actually like to have an hardcore immersion mod. Not everyone's thing but I'd love it. It would include:

- removal of fast travel
- need to eat, drink and sleep, maybe accelerated by activity such as fighting (after clearing a dungeon one should be tired)
- in return getting rid of time compression or at least nerfing it
- making crafting and enchanting gains more difficult at higher levels, for example not improving with crafting cheap ass iron daggers after a certain point(with that an aspiring crafter would have to hunt for rare materials to reach master level)
- giving each material strengths and weaknesses to make item choice less linear
Don't you realise?!?!? PEOPLE COULD DIE!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Xant on November 16, 2011, 12:16:44 pm
- in return getting rid of time compression or at least nerfing it

You can actually make time 1:1 with a console command!

"set timescale to 1" is real time. 16 is the default.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: SchokoSchaf on November 16, 2011, 01:30:54 pm
You can actually make time 1:1 with a console command!

"set timescale to 1" is real time. 16 is the default.

But the rest of the game doesn't change. That's like playing 45min halftimes in fifa.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Xant on November 16, 2011, 02:19:29 pm
What do you mean, the rest of the game doesn't change?
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Tot. on November 16, 2011, 04:56:15 pm
One thing I'd really like to see in Skyrim and other cRPG is advanced system of clothing. For example, when you're high in the mountains, its cold as fuck, you cant be running around in your light metal armor because you'll freeze to death. You'd need to have furs ontop of your normal armor just not to die of cold. Same as for hot places, going in there dressed up like a yeti would cause you to lose stamina much faster and become tired.

I dont get why in so few cRPGs theres a system which allows to have more than one thing chest-slot equipped. This really breaks immersion, at least for me.

Other things like having to eat and drink were previously mentioned, I believe there was a mod for Oblivion which inplemented that, might be it will be remade for Skyrim aswell.

Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: SchokoSchaf on November 16, 2011, 05:00:25 pm
What do you mean, the rest of the game doesn't change?
For example if the timescale is 16 - you need like 3 days if you run from one city to another, but if you set it to 1 (real time) you can do it in 1 hour.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: LordBerenger on November 16, 2011, 05:04:27 pm
I'd actually like to have an hardcore immersion mod. Not everyone's thing but I'd love it. It would include:

- removal of fast travel
- need to eat, drink and sleep, maybe accelerated by activity such as fighting (after clearing a dungeon one should be tired)
- in return getting rid of time compression or at least nerfing it
- making crafting and enchanting gains more difficult at higher levels, for example not improving with crafting cheap ass iron daggers after a certain point(with that an aspiring crafter would have to hunt for rare materials to reach master level)
- giving each material strengths and weaknesses to make item choice less linear

Like Fallout 3 Wanders Edition mod but with more features?
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Xant on November 16, 2011, 05:06:02 pm
For example if the timescale is 16 - you need like 3 days if you run from one city to another, but if you set it to 1 (real time) you can do it in 1 hour.

That doesn't really make sense.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: SchokoSchaf on November 16, 2011, 05:08:10 pm
That doesn't really make sense.
How about chopping wood in five seconds instead of 5 minutes? Does that make sense?

I'm referring to the time that passes for you character not you in front of the screens ofc.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Xant on November 16, 2011, 05:22:54 pm
Yes, that's what I mean, it doesn't really make sense. You can't translate game-time like that, otherwise it takes you an hour to move one meter or swing your sword.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Miranda on November 16, 2011, 06:54:45 pm
Skyrim is to blame for my absense aswell.... But i will be back to C-RPG for sure!

The problem is that i bought Skyrim with not such high expectations because i never played an The Elder Scrolls game before. Installed it, loaded it up and was like WTF?! This game is freaking awesome!  :shock:

So now im addicted....  :oops:

Will be back later lol.  :D
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Leshma on November 16, 2011, 07:19:56 pm
Oh yeah, i noticed rivers have currents? Or was it something else :P

Yep, I think it's the first game with that feature. I'm not sure does it works on inanimate object but dead animal bodies do flow downwards.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Oberyn on November 16, 2011, 07:28:16 pm
it does, if you go into a fast flowing river you'll have to fight the current.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Leshma on November 16, 2011, 07:32:53 pm
I'd actually like to have an hardcore immersion mod. Not everyone's thing but I'd love it. It would include:

- removal of fast travel
- need to eat, drink and sleep, maybe accelerated by activity such as fighting (after clearing a dungeon one should be tired)
- in return getting rid of time compression or at least nerfing it
- making crafting and enchanting gains more difficult at higher levels, for example not improving with crafting cheap ass iron daggers after a certain point(with that an aspiring crafter would have to hunt for rare materials to reach master level)
- giving each material strengths and weaknesses to make item choice less linear

1) yeah, fast travek sucks balls, strider taxi's in morrowind were cool tho
2) new vegas has it but they spent like 20 minutes on that part of the game so you get hungry and thirsty too often and it's totally unrealistic. needs to be simulated properly or not at all
3) time compression should be 10 min IRL - 1 hour in game or 1:6 ratio, without time compression game would suck
4) i like the variety of items you can make but i don't like the way you make stuff, it's the same as in gothic. blueprints, with option of creating your own design, making process shouldn't be automated, real smithing simulation would be cool (for example not heating enough the steel would result in fail, just like fuck-up at any other stage)
5) that's good idea but only if they don't let either you or fasader to "balance" strengths and weaknesses...

i) and a lot more

But as Gnjus said BethSoft ain't gonna do it. And moders usually leave things unfinished or badly implemented.

@Gnjus

Even if I had time or knowledge to make the game of my dreams, why should I do it? It won't be financial success and I won't enjoy because I already know everything about it...
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Leshma on November 16, 2011, 07:49:17 pm
I forgot to reply to mister "I'm 18 and I know it all":

Maybe you won't play such complex and dynamic game (although I know that you're full of shit and that you would enjoy it just as I would). But Minecraft and similar games show us that people who play on PC love realistic games. Before Minecraft and Terraria who could tell that people want TO DIG in virtual world? Something most of us aren't willing to do unless forced to.

People like to dig in those games because that's something we haven't yet seen in games but it's familiar to us.  Same goes to other aspects of RL which haven't been properly exploited in games. People like battlefied games because it's a good online FPS game but they also love destruction. People played that stupid digging simulator on Mars called Red Faction.

People love realistic and complex games, it's just that lazy devs want a fast buck and therefore make up shit how people don't want to think much while playing games, how Gears of War is perfect game and crap like that.

Game doesn't have to be realistic in a sense that it follows all the laws we have in RL. It can be put into alternate universe where everything is different to what we're used to but it HAS TO BE EXPLAINED to us why things work like that, in a way we can understand it. So no more stupid stories like, vampires are pale, teenage kids who can't die and glow in the sunlight... everything has to be explained, to have some basis, and it's best if the method used for explanation is similar to scientific method.

Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Teeth on November 16, 2011, 11:31:16 pm
Be glad that the player count is dropping, it's almost like the old times where you knew all 50 active players. Smaller community is generally cooler. Which is a big part of what I like about cRPG. Playing against the same people, shittalk at them in chat. Hunt them. Sit on ts with them. Something which for example BF3 lacks for me. I only play it whenever I have a few friends to play it with.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Gorath on November 17, 2011, 06:53:26 am
Maybe you won't play such complex and dynamic game (although I know that you're full of shit and that you would enjoy it just as I would).

Ok.  31.  Your game still sounds like suck to me.  Why on earth would I want to play some tedious, repeat: TEDIOUS, LIFE SIMULATOR.  I already live one life that is filled with tedious necessities.  Why would I want to torture myself with spending my free time on another tedious life, that doesn't even benefit my real life in any way?

Oh, there's a small niche crowd like you that would enjoy it sure (the term masochist comes to mind) but that's it.  Small.  Niche.  Crowd.

Only way that would even remotely be fun would be with Matrix style technology, and even then I would want respawning and a bunch of the tedium removed.  Like having to use the bathroom.  Or eating.  Or sleeping.  You know how much life you lose sleeping?  Yeah.  Fuck that shit.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Jambi on November 17, 2011, 03:57:49 pm
Been experiencing the same thing. I had to take a long break, i left cRPG when there was at least 100+ people playing.. even outside prime-times. No that i am back i have seen fewer people playing, Skyrim is a factor ofcourse. But even few days before Skyrim less people where playing.

What im seeing ingame, is that people tend to play cRPG more casual now. Hardly any leet-speech or players in competitve mode, or grinding there ass off.

Like 50-60players on EU1, 20-30 players on EU2. EU3 is empty

Dead Mod, Mod is Dying
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on November 17, 2011, 04:03:31 pm
The At fifteen, I had the will to  learn ; at thirty, I could stand ; at forty, I had no  doubts ; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding ;  at sixty, my ears were opened ; at seventy, I could  do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the  square. talk has been around since i started playing ( around a year ago ) and the devs point at their statistic say that the player base has either grown or is stable atm. Its just all the new releases, nothing more.

Now how many people will come back to crpg that remains to be seen. Imo it will live on untill m&b 2 maybe even after that if chadz decides not to port it
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Oberyn on November 17, 2011, 04:06:04 pm
Well I still come on the forums and irc occasionally, if only to talk about Skyrim with other cRPG players XD. I'll quite probably get bored of it eventually. No matter how cool and expansive the world, it's still a singleplayer game. Let's just hope no awesome mods come out for a while though.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Nurax on November 17, 2011, 05:28:24 pm
Who's Panos? :O
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Corwin on November 17, 2011, 07:48:01 pm
Been experiencing the same thing. I had to take a long break, i left cRPG when there was at least 100+ people playing.. even outside prime-times. No that i am back i have seen fewer people playing, Skyrim is a factor ofcourse. But even few days before Skyrim less people where playing.

What im seeing ingame, is that people tend to play cRPG more casual now. Hardly any leet-speech or players in competitve mode, or grinding there ass off.

Like 50-60players on EU1, 20-30 players on EU2. EU3 is empty

Dead Mod, Mod is Dying

It happened suddenly. Several days ago number of players decreased dramatically. Around the same time Panos was banned. Coincidence?
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Cepeshi on November 17, 2011, 08:20:24 pm
It happened suddenly. Several days ago number of players decreased dramatically. Around the same time Panos was banned. Coincidence?

I smell a mystery...Panos followers reunite and flood the servers  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Gnjus on November 18, 2011, 08:12:55 am
Ok.  31.  Your game still sounds like suck to me.  Why on earth would I want to play some tedious, repeat: TEDIOUS, LIFE SIMULATOR.  I already live one life that is filled with tedious necessities.  Why would I want to torture myself with spending my free time on another tedious life, that doesn't even benefit my real life in any way?

Oh, there's a small niche crowd like you that would enjoy it sure (the term masochist comes to mind) but that's it.  Small.  Niche.  Crowd.

Only way that would even remotely be fun would be with Matrix style technology, and even then I would want respawning and a bunch of the tedium removed.  Like having to use the bathroom.  Or eating.  Or sleeping.  You know how much life you lose sleeping?  Yeah.  Fuck that shit.

It's all SheoGorath's fault. Nuffen said.  :wink:
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Blondin on November 18, 2011, 04:34:06 pm
cRPG is still the only (valuable) multiplayer melee fighting game, there is no other.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Gorath on November 18, 2011, 05:07:51 pm
cRPG is still the only (valuable) multiplayer melee fighting game, there is no other.

Melee?  Where on earth do you see melee?  All I can see is ranged, cav, cav, cav, ranged, cav, ranged, ranged, pew pew pew pewcavhorsewaffles, ranged, cav.

Oh and pikes.  I guess technically pikes are melee, so touche`
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: LordBerenger on November 18, 2011, 06:33:54 pm
Melee?  Where on earth do you see melee?  All I can see is ranged, cav, cav, cav, ranged, cav, ranged, ranged, pew pew pew pewcavhorsewaffles, ranged, cav.

Oh and pikes.  I guess technically pikes are melee, so touche`

Actually pikes are ranged weapons without being projectiles/weapon to use with projectiles
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Blondin on November 19, 2011, 01:25:56 am
Melee?  Where on earth do you see melee?  All I can see is ranged, cav, cav, cav, ranged, cav, ranged, ranged, pew pew pew pewcavhorsewaffles, ranged, cav.

Oh and pikes.  I guess technically pikes are melee, so touche`

Fucking shit, that means that I have again made ​​the wrong choice of class  :cry:
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: SchokoSchaf on November 19, 2011, 10:25:02 am
Melee?  Where on earth do you see melee?  All I can see is rage, cough, cough, cough, rage, cough, rage, rage, pee pee pee peecoughbreakcookies, rage, cough.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Gorath on November 19, 2011, 01:07:04 pm
ahurr durr

Ranged and/or cav player spotted!
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: SchokoSchaf on November 19, 2011, 01:30:49 pm
Ranged and/or cav player spotted!
missed
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: karasu on November 19, 2011, 02:49:46 pm
I blame Cicero (http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Cicero).
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Jambi on November 30, 2011, 02:40:05 am
Dead mod , At fifteen, I had the will to  learn ; at thirty, I could stand ; at forty, I had no  doubts ; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding ;  at sixty, my ears were opened ; at seventy, I could  do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the  square.  :?
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on November 30, 2011, 02:54:29 am
Dead mod , At fifteen, I had the will to  learn ; at thirty, I could stand ; at forty, I had no  doubts ; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding ;  at sixty, my ears were opened ; at seventy, I could  do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the  square.  :?

nah just the archers.

I blame Cicero (http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Cicero).

that npc have a horrible bug. it start spinning and lolstabbing sometimes. will be fixed with the 1.2 patch

Melee?  Where on earth do you see melee?  All I can see is ranged, cav, cav, cav, ranged, cav, ranged, ranged, pew pew pew pewcavhorsewaffles, ranged, cav.

Oh and pikes.  I guess technically pikes are melee, so touche`

that's because cRPG players went to play BF3. There our cRPG guys met other players... while playing those new buddies learnt about that cRPG mod for a pretty old game..  they then gave a shot because it's only 7$ on steam.. puf! ranged spam is served.

no seriously.. siege had a good boost of ranged builds since a week... maybe with the armor nerf, i just notice em because flying stuff don't bounce anymore.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Boerenlater on November 30, 2011, 03:35:44 am
cRPG is still the only (valuable) multiplayer melee fighting game, there is no other.
The Source mod Age of Chivalry has actually also a quite good melee system. Blocking, different classes, sieges with objectives.
It is fun but not as good as this.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/17510
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Vibe on November 30, 2011, 09:33:01 am
cRPG is still the only (valuable) multiplayer melee fighting game, there is no other.

Actually, Jedi Knight Outcast and Academy have good melee systems too, not as complex/fun as Warband though. Also less populated.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on November 30, 2011, 09:54:28 am
The Source mod Age of Chivalry has actually also a quite good melee system. Blocking, different classes, sieges with objectives.
It is fun but not as good as this.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/17510

yes but the glitchy animations/movement is really fugly. the only good part is the gore warband miss.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Lanic0r on November 30, 2011, 01:53:14 pm
Maybe some guys got a girlfriend now and dont care about stupid games with stupid players?
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Joker86 on November 30, 2011, 02:00:16 pm
Maybe some guys got a girlfriend now and dont care about stupid games with stupid players?

Oh wow! Congrats! Did you kiss already? I mean real kissing, on the mouth. What I always wated to know: do you feel the other's teeth when kissing someone else on the mouth or not?

Oh please tell me, I wanna knowso bad.

P.S.: Did your tongues touch? If they did: wow!  :shock:
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Lanic0r on November 30, 2011, 02:10:43 pm
Oh wow! Congrats! Did you kiss already? I mean real kissing, on the mouth. What I always wated to know: do you feel the other's teeth when kissing someone else on the mouth or not?

Oh please tell me, I wanna knowso bad.

P.S.: Did your tongues touch? If they did: wow!  :shock:
Why so serious?
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Joker86 on November 30, 2011, 02:13:08 pm
Why so serious?

Tired of jerking on Youporn...  :|

Really, I jerk so much, I already had to switch my mouse from right to left side for good, although I am right handed...  :(
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Lanic0r on November 30, 2011, 02:21:22 pm
Tired of jerking on Youporn...  :|

Really, I jerk so much, I already had to switch my mouse from right to left side for good, although I am right handed...  :(
I got it, you mean you still have to play this stupid game with stupid players.
Regarding to your question. Siiem must know, his farting vagina touches Xant´s lostab very often. Ok this is no regular kissing but oral.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Joker86 on November 30, 2011, 02:23:53 pm
I got it, you mean you still have to play this stupid game with stupid players.
Regarding to your question. Siiem must know, his farting vagina touches Xant´s lostab very often. Ok this is no regular kissing but you could ask him.

Thanks mate!  :D

But I fear those new infos won't make my tennis elbow any better  :?
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Lanic0r on November 30, 2011, 02:25:10 pm
Thanks mate!  :D

But I fear those new infos won't make my tennis elbow any better  :?
Wait wait, what was the point of our dialogue?
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Joker86 on November 30, 2011, 02:42:29 pm
How it can be that there are only 80 people on EU1 during prime time. Obviously.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on December 03, 2011, 02:46:17 pm
Maybe some guys got a girlfriend now and dont care about stupid games with stupid players?

i really hope so... i enjoy the game with mature players (28-35) with kids, life, work and stuff rather than face "i wtfpwn you trololol!" kiddos.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on December 03, 2011, 02:52:16 pm
I'd actually like to have an hardcore immersion mod. Not everyone's thing but I'd love it. It would include:

- removal of fast travel
- need to eat, drink and sleep, maybe accelerated by activity such as fighting (after clearing a dungeon one should be tired)
- in return getting rid of time compression or at least nerfing it
- making crafting and enchanting gains more difficult at higher levels, for example not improving with crafting cheap ass iron daggers after a certain point(with that an aspiring crafter would have to hunt for rare materials to reach master level)
- giving each material strengths and weaknesses to make item choice less linear

well we need something like Obscuro's Oblivion Overhaul then. it's just a matter of time if someone will do a big hardcore mod.

will still not be able to put old STR/AGI/SPEED/LUCK stats back.

and btw vanilla perks sucks a lot. the only improvement over oblivion, is dual casting, dual wielding (and last sucks because you can't block. console gamepads have no more buttons to bind so they just left dualwielding a spam-only mode.)
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Paul on December 03, 2011, 03:00:31 pm
Actually dark nights and caves is something I'd like to have too. So stealth actually makes sense if it is practially impossible in broad daylight.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Leshma on December 03, 2011, 03:45:07 pm
Main problem with that game is that leveling is the same bullshit as it was 15 years ago. It's broken and it will always be broken unless they choose to redesign it.

Most RPG have the same problem but majority use different system with levels which require fixed amount of XP, and after that you can upgrade your char (typical crpg, or pen&paper system like in AD&D).

Elder Scrolls games use more realistic approach where you progress is based on what you do during the game. But it's broken and you can abuse it.

It makes no sense that grandmaster two handed warrior leveled from novice just by swinging his sword the same way for, lets say, 50 hours. I can jump in place for 3 months every day and I'll never become good basketball player.

What they should do is to implement that awesome system from that silly console game called Tony Hawk Pro Skater and tweak it a little bit.

For example, you're novice in two handed sword mastery, you want to get better so you practice and fight. Your progress depends of what you do and it's mainly based on creativity. So if you're creative and don't attack using the same pattern all over again, you will progress. There should be some algorithm which will measure creativity. I would do it by previously recording all possible combinations of moves and those which look the most elegant would grant most XP.

Only change I would make would be to eliminate time as skill factor and make so that you can downgrade from grandmaster back to novice if you play bad. Such system would be awesome for most rpgs and especially for MMORPGs and I would like to see it in c-rpg as well.

Every competitive game should reward skill (reflexes) and intellegence (smart play). Sadly, time is the only thing that matters in modern games, skill is marginalized.
Title: Re: Only 80 people on EU 1, prime time
Post by: Kafein on December 03, 2011, 04:14:25 pm
Main problem with that game is that leveling is the same bullshit as it was 15 years ago. It's broken and it will always be broken unless they choose to redesign it.

Most RPG have the same problem but majority use different system with levels which require fixed amount of XP, and after that you can upgrade your char (typical crpg, or pen&paper system like in AD&D).

Elder Scrolls games use more realistic approach where you progress is based on what you do during the game. But it's broken and you can abuse it.

It makes no sense that grandmaster two handed warrior leveled from novice just by swinging his sword the same way for, lets say, 50 hours. I can jump in place for 3 months every day and I'll never become good basketball player.

What they should do is to implement that awesome system from that silly console game called Tony Hawk Pro Skater and tweak it a little bit.

For example, you're novice in two handed sword mastery, you want to get better so you practice and fight. Your progress depends of what you do and it's mainly based on creativity. So if you're creative and don't attack using the same pattern all over again, you will progress. There should be some algorithm which will measure creativity. I would do it by previously recording all possible combinations of moves and those which look the most elegant would grant most XP.

Only change I would make would be to eliminate time as skill factor and make so that you can downgrade from grandmaster back to novice if you play bad. Such system would be awesome for most rpgs and especially for MMORPGs and I would like to see it in c-rpg as well.

Every competitive game should reward skill (reflexes) and intellegence (smart play). Sadly, time is the only thing that matters in modern games, skill is marginalized.

Actually, I like when the time factor is indeed taken into account. That factor has nothing to do with skill etc. and allows bad but active players to stand a chance against skilled but less active ones. Playing videogames is for everyone, even Warband and it's skill-based melee combat. Furthermore, if and only if we decrease the overwhelming incentives for winning rounds, having an unbalanced playing field is indeed a good thing. If the game is not about winning, but about having fun, then if you feel like being a pro, there are players with better stats/gear than you that can provide a good challenge, without all the shittalking and bitterness of an even playing field. Currently having fun playing cRPG is winning, and that's just sad. There would be a lot less complaining about balance and "grind" if winning wasn't mandatory like it is.