- Hes an NA admin.
- NA admins are easily replaceable.
- Hes an NA admin.
- NA admins are easily replaceable.
This thread will end badly, judging from the posts...
Take it to PMs to the parties involved.
I wish the admins gave a damn...
I do give a damn and have a very strong opinion about this, I am just not going to open my mouth and get whacked for it.
Yes poophammer is using every possible error people make to win money for himself and he doesn't give them bback. But this has nothing to do with ingame admin powers. I've seen many adminns being pricks ingame without abusing their admin powers, the market shouldn't be different.However, NA Admins are held fully responsible for our actions not only in game, but also in the forums, irc and everywhere else.
(sorry for the double n, b annd spaces my keyboard is fucked up)
Anyway, sorry your friend caught a raw deal but it's not as if he was scammed. Poop simply took advantage of a guy not knowing the going rates for heirloomed items. He does that alot but that's not really illegal so he's done nothing wrong.
In this is so much wrong on so many levels, lets see
1. t's not as if he was scammed
so getting 100k instead of 800-1200k depending on what x3 gear is not scamming, i am not a master in english nor in legal terms, but i am pretty sure most legal systems have a term for a trade, where one party out of lack of knowlege gets unbelievable mindboggling undervalued stuff for something good he gives out of his hands.
2. Poop simply took advantage of a guy not knowing the going rates for heirloomed items.
So there is a guy which takes advantage of those who know less, an admin ...
3. He does that alot
I know, everyone knows, that is exactly the point. I only know of this guy because i hear from time to time horror stories and he is rarely on EU Servers anyway.
4. but that's not really illegal so he's done nothing wrong.
Are you for real? Did you loose your moral compass somewhere between smoking too much and shiting your brains out? I was asked to keep this civil, but dude, really? (cmp, sry but this is just too much)
5. Anyway, sorry your friend caught a raw deal but it's not as if he was scammed.
You know with all you wrote afterwards, this is just worth nothing. If i would need pity i would get me a religion and start believing in supernatural stuff, so get out of my face.
You are an admin too? why?
The only difference is that Shik usually removes NA admins when they act like butt hurt crybabies ingame or on the forums, going by your posts i'm guessing you guys don't adhere to the same standard though.
Sorry about my arguing with Coy on the forums the other night. I already removed my posts and I won't speak of it or her anymore. Even if it comes to administrative issues involving her in the future i'll just refrain from posting in them. Again, sorry for stepping out line there.
Anyway, sorry your friend caught a raw deal but it's not as if he was scammed. Poop simply took advantage of a guy not knowing the going rates for heirloomed items. He does that alot but that's not really illegal so he's done nothing wrong.wut? did someone say 'delete common sense'?
[5:21 PM] <Tears> Shik, do you have an opinion about the Market "drama" thread?weird, not to say: very sad.
[5:21 PM] <Shik> I have no opinion
[5:21 PM] <Shik> while poophammer technically did nothing other than exploit the behavior of the naive
[5:22 PM] <Shik> it's still not exactly the best sort of public image
[5:22 PM] <Shik> for an admin
[5:25 PM] <Shik> Tears I don't have an official opinion
[5:25 PM] <Shik> only personal thoughts
Short lived...
Everyone knows exactly what you are referencing.
Since my fellow NA Admins are unable to control themselves, I am refusing to associate myself with with them any longer.
Take this as my public resignation as I refuse to be part of such an unprofessional group.
I will be damned if I get "Oh he is an NA Admin" again and looked further down upon because some of you are giving the rest of us so much of a bad image.
That one wasn't even a shot at Coy, but do what you will. You dragging dirty laundry into the open certainly didn't help things though.
It's the sellers fault not buyers.awesome attitude man, oh i mean awful - really, i am wondering why you don't care about being assholes in no way. i just don't get it. is it really our society ...?
All in all, derpers gonna derp and Poophammer is smart and playing his cards right.
i was going to post a racis comment about your avatar but i guess this quote talks alone, i'm very happy most ppl talking like this in games have usually no balls to behave and survive same way in real life.
All in all, derpers gonna derp and Poophammer is smart and playing his cards right.
awesome attitude man, oh i mean awful - really, i am wondering why you don't care about being assholes in no way. i just don't get it. is it really our society ...?
i was going to post a racis comment about your avatar but i guess this quote talks alone, i'm very happy most ppl talking like this in games have usually no balls to behave and survive same way in real life.
cheers
Taking advantage of stupid/oblivious/poor intellegence (Hi cicero) For the win!just reconsidered you to Common Cave Troll 8-)
Hating on other countries isn't racism!Also what i said is the truth =)(click to show/hide)
Taking advantage of stupid/oblivious/poor intellegence (Hi cicero) For the win!uh-huh -
uh-huh -
never argue with a troll, he'll drag you to his level and will beat you silly ...
I "scammed" Fallen_Torben same way as poophammer "scammed" that guy and kinn said i would gonna be global banned and all shit, so i gave the item back , i shouln'd give it ;_;.My Props to you for giving it back. Was the right thing to do. You got honour and you got ballz thru that. Keep on being a good guy and maybe you get a chick (or guy... depending on your sexuality), that sucks them, one time.
My Props to you for giving it back. Was the right thing to do. You got honour and you got ballz thru that. Keep on being a good guy and maybe you get a chick (or guy... depending on your sexuality), that sucks them, one time.
OffTopic:
Hey Nessy, where's that .gif from? What movie, I mean...
and Tzar! Who's that chick on your avatar? Smbd knows her name? :D
Shik> but it seems karma seems to want to continue the shitposting
[5:27 PM] <Smoothrich> deez guys
[5:27 PM] <Shik> as seen by his "SOME BABIES" post
I'm done.
Have a good day.
I do give a damn and have a very strong opinion about this, I am just not going to open my mouth in the public part of these forums and get whacked for it.You usually open your mouth - it wouldn't hurt you todo it now.
Jesus what has been going on these past few days...
Jesus what has been going on these past few days...
Shik has decided that it's better to remove all the active NA admins
Gosh tears, grow some balls and stop running to momma shik every time something happens to tell her.
You usually open your mouth - it wouldn't hurt you todo it now.
Any Admin with dubious history of abuse (E.g Nuffen) should have their Adminship removed simple as that.
Blanket ban NA y/y?
common sense was a good point mentioned before, i myself just want to see some decency within admins. Someone who is acting as a rolemodel for the community should know and act better. I for myself yes i got irrational at times, for example when i see and feel injustice, there does not need to be a written rule about it, but if you don't feel that there is something wrong with the case i have described and how teh matter was ignored and with the knowledge it was going on and on and on all over again ...(click to show/hide)
I "scammed" Fallen_Torben same way as poophammer "scammed" that guy and kinn said i would gonna be global banned and all shit, so i gave the item back , i shouln'd give it ;_;.I never said "you would be globaly banned" but i mentioned to bring a shit storm onto you. I dunno exactly what to say to you Joosto, as you seem still not to get it.
and nothing of value was lost this daynot of value for you
For the record, Poophammer's admin has been removed.It was several times mentioned that he was a good ingame admin, credit very credit is due, thanks Poophammer for your work you have done. I didn't expect this outcome and i wouldn't have expected this at all in this speed. I just wanted to see some decency in you to return if only part of the value to the player who actually earned it and lost it by foolishness, naivity and carelessness. I still believe admins should act as an example for the community, they surly may make mistakes, but they need to have the courage to make an effort to correct them.
In this is so much wrong on so many levels, lets see
1. t's not as if he was scammed
so getting 100k instead of 800-1200k depending on what x3 gear is not scamming, i am not a master in english nor in legal terms, but i am pretty sure most legal systems have a term for a trade, where one party out of lack of knowlege gets unbelievable mindboggling undervalued stuff for something good he gives out of his hands.
Well what can I say. This was just pretty much a public lynching, I was afk the whole time this happened and I relogged with a PM from Shik saying my admin was removed and I really had no idea what went down until a few hours later I found this topic.
I did enjoy admining and I thought I was doing a fairly good job, but hey I guess something I did a month ago came to bite back for some reason (no idea why something was not said then), but oh well, shit happens, I will still play, still open for doing the job again if the chance ever happens again (probably wont but oh well).
See you guys on NA, try not to get a lance to the face ;)
...Was Poophammer a shark on the marketplace ? Certainly....i concur, i've used the martketplace a few times, i was looking to buy another loom point and found rloveution(edit) offering his for a starting bid of 440k. so i post 450k, and then about half an hour later its magically sold to poophammer for 455k :-s, i cry No Fair!
If it would have come to my intention then i would have made an effort to contact you first. Franky did contact you and you just told him that you already sold the Nodachi. Wintersturm afterwards wasn't very often online, just lately he is more active again. As then on another matter you got Franky upset, he told me about the Nodachi and because it was so long ago and i got to know of you only about this kind off trades which seemed to happen not only once, i choose to post it directly. I am myself far from a perfect guy, still someone who is in position of admin, who has in that way power over people, should therefor act with a little more insight. Is this the best outcome, possibly not. chadz was working on new rules where admins can rely on, haven't seen them sofar. Also i don't like to loose a good admin, but ask yourself if an admin should be meassured by all his actions within the community or only to a task at hand. You can't decipher your actions just by ingame admin task, forum or marketplace appearance, anyone is seen as a person and any action we do is taken into account. I do guess that some may now don't see onto me with kindness because i brought this up, this is so to say my Karma, where i have to live with it, still i believe it was the right thing to do.
... but hey I guess something I did a month ago came to bite back for some reason (no idea why something was not said then)
For now, it's best if this thread was locked.
So the best way to scam people, is to wait for being an admin, then scam, then just get the admin "power" removed, and done ?
Well, i nearly never go on Na servers, so to be honest, i don't know at all how Poop is. But he sure didn't act as an admin on the forums, and in the marketplace. It's good to know that "decendy" is also a criteria to keep one's admin's right.
A shame NA lost his admin's right. But if this (remove admin right) was the only solution they got for Poop (victims not compensated), then i presume in 6 months Poop will have his admin rights back (he's active and fair ingame, or so i've heard) and it wouldn't have changed a thing.
I hate scammers.
You can not take my drama away!
I draw my energy from drama, catnip and the occasional tummy rub - the balance must not be destroyed!
the intelligence attribute will be a boolean: 1 for EU, 0 for NA.
and yes this thread perhaps should be closed