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cRPG => Events & Tournaments => Topic started by: Beauchamp on February 06, 2011, 02:29:02 pm

Title: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 06, 2011, 02:29:02 pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of6x1jGTxRo


Following already finished all cRPG FALLEN TOURNAMENT the other one should follow. For a change its going to be a CLAN tournament! Invited to come is everybody - not only clan members, but only clan members that will be able to form specified teams are allowed to participate in the fights and rankings.

There will be multiple fights on one special map among multiple clans. No need to negotiate with other clans where or when or on what map to meet. Everything will happen in one session within like 2 hours. Other clan tournaments will most likely follow with similar rules, all rankings of these tournaments will be recorded and updated into a simple ladder of overall clan standings.


BASIC RULES
- tournament will take place on Fallen Tournament server
- tournament starts: 12.2.2011 20:00 GMT
- its going to be clan 5v5 tournament
- server will be passworded for the session
- time until the tournament starts
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RULES ON HOW TO FORM A CLANTEAM (CT)
- CT consist of 5 clanmembers
- clanmembers have to be members of already founded clan
- clanmembers have to use the same armor and the same banner so they are visualy recognizable as 1 group. the only one with different armor can be the archer (still his visual outfit should match the outfit of the others as close as possible).
- if you use visual style with heraldic  armors, you can take any heraldic armor for members of your team
- 1 clan can form 1 CT only
- minimum of players in team for the fight is 4 (if sbdy from your team doesn't come, you can still fight as 4 people)
- people in the team don't have to be the same for all the matches (you can have substitutions etc...), but they have to be always members of your clan.

LIMITS ON EQUIPMENT AND ARMOR
- 1 bow maximum in 1 team
- 1 xbow maximum in 1 team
- 1 stack of throwing weapons maximum in 1 team
- you can trade 2 ranged weapons for 1 other of your choice (for example additional throwing stack for bow+xbow etc..)
- no horses
- no limit on melee weapons (u can take multiple shields, weapons)
- no heavier armor than transitional
- no looting of weapons from ground (using already thrown weapons, shields etc...)

REGISTRATION
- just write in forums your clan is going to participate
- if you want to reserve your visual style, write what armor will you be wearing. if 2 styles will interfere the second one to register has to adjust his visual style.
- if number of players of registered CTs exceeds server limit (64 players) than the registrations are closed.
- some bigger clans are specially invited, but any clan can participate (earlier registrations here in the thread are more valid than late registrations (after 64 player limit) of bigger invited clans.
REGISTRATIONS CLOSED

FIGHTS and TOURNAMENT SYSTEM
- fights will take place in the archery arena
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- there is always only 1 fight between 2 clans (5vs5) going, clans will be called when to come into the arena to fight
- server will be set to deathmatch mode
- CT that kills all the members of opposing CT wins the round
- winning one match earns your clan 3 points
- killing 1 enemy earns you 1 point
- for victory you always get 8 points together (3 for victory, 5 for killing 5 opponets)
- for defeat you can earn up to 4 points (for eliminating 4 members of enemy team)
- in draw game (2 last players kill each other) both teams get 5 points.
- if you fight against smaller team (4 people only), you always get 1 point as the missing member is considered as eliminated.
- you can join our TS during the tournament
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the tournament system will be adjusted according to how many clans will register into the tournament
- if there are going to be less than 8 clans, everyone will be in 1 big table and will meet everyone once. clan with the most points after all the matches are finished wins the tournament.

- if there are going to be 8 or more clans, clans will be divided into 2 groups (A and B). clans in group A will fight everyone else in group A (and similarly in B group). winner of A group meets winner of B group for tournament champion. 2nd place of A meets 2nd place of B for 3rd place in tournament etc.
- if number of CTs in A or B is odd, the last clan of that group will loose the tournament and won't have a special (AvsB) fight for final place.
- dividing clans into group A and B was done by voting in poll here in this thread

GROUP A
1 - Mercs
2 - Fallen Brigade
3 - Ninjas
4 - Order of the Rose

GROUP B
1 - the Shogunate
2 - Caravan Guards
3 - the Risen
4 - Holy Roman Empire

note: if some clan doesn't come and we won't have substitute clan, everybody will fight everybody in 1 big 7members group. the one with the most points wins the tournament, clans with the same ammount of points will have a rematch among themselves to determinate their final ranking.

OTHER RULES
- nobody spawns on horse
- only tournament masters (TM) spawn on horse
- don't flood the chat, always listen to TMs
- rules of the tournament are in some ways similar to the finished all cRPG tournament http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,1791.0.html (check them out if you want)
- server for the tournament will be passworded, password will appear here or (if many people would like to participate) will be PMed to your clanleaders that fill in here registrations in advance (a few days ahead). password is:tournament

list of current TMs
Fallen_Beauchamp

CLAN LADDER SYSTEM
- after each clan tournament the points are added to your clanscore
- number of points you get:
(CT size) x (number of clans participating in tournament) x (number of clans participating in tournament - final place + 1)

for example:
10 clans in tournament
5 size clan teams
you finish 3rd
(5) x (10) x (10 - 3 + 1) = 400 points

for example
3 clans in tournament
10 size clan teams
you finish 1st
(10) x (3) x (3 - 1 +1) = 90 points

simply: the bigger the tournament (especially in number of clans participating) the bigger the reward for ladder system. you score some points into the ladder even when you finish as the last one. a lot of clans in tournament is more for points than big teams in tournament (so also smaller clans can get good points when fighting well).


ALREADY REGISTERED TEAMS
1 - the Fallen Brigade (visual style: Black Coat of Plates, Barbutte) - registered by Beauchamp
2 - Holy Roman Empire (visual style: Heraldic + Klappvisier) - registered by Rogue
3 - Caravan Guards (visual style: Khergit Guard Armor + Khergit Guard helmet) - registered by Lansamur
4 - Order of the Rose (visual style: Heraldic + various helmets) - registered by Krakatit
5 - the Shogunate (visual style: Khergit Elite Armor + Vaegir War Mask) - registered by Shogunate_Ujin
6 - Ninjas (visual style:  Black Lammelar Vest + Black Hood with Mask) - registered by Torp
7 - Mercenaries (visual style: Heraldic + various helmets) - registered by Olwen
8 - the Risen (visual style: Sarranid Guard Armor + Millanese Sallet) - registered by Thovex
REGISTRATIONS CLOSED

note: any rules can change before the tournament starts, please discuss any unclear topics or rules...
ty B. (the Fallen Brigade)


RECORDED BATTLES - BY FALLEN PUNISHER, THX A LOT!!!!!
Here are the battles I recored, unfortunately I had some technical problems at first and couldn't get all qualifyers.

Qualifying rounds

Guards vs Risen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejALVg3jqXU
Fallen Brigade vs Roses http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lodLhjXH774
Risen vs HRE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SER0iKFiL_A
Mercs vs Fallen Brigade http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6oWBLvKmBg
Shogunate vs HRE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lT06VnPT5s

Final rounds

Risen vs Roses, fight for 7th place http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxrB9MeDp1Q
Ninja vs Guards, fight for 5th place http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUDfiiTN-Sw
Holy Roman Empire vs Fallen Brigade, fight for 3rd place http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWau_SP9QIw
Shogunate vs Mercs, the FINAL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ2Am0VVYIM


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poll history
Which group is stronger overall?
A - 21 (45.7%)
B - 9 (19.6%)
they're about equal - 16 (34.8%)

What clan will you miss the most in the tournament?
Templars 15 (26.3%)
Druzhina 22 (38.6%)
Searaiders 4 (7%)
DeBitre 2 (3.5%)
Pecores 6 (10.5%)
Turks 1 (1.8%)
Grey Order 2 (3.5%)
Eastern Tsardom0 (0%)
Other (can specify in forums) 1 (1.8%)
None 4 (7%)

So what clan(s) are the worst?! (2 votes)
All those that don't participate - 8 (12.5%)
Mercenaries - 4 (6.3%)
Fallen Brigade - 5 (7.8%)
Ninjas - 9 (14.1%)
Order of the Rose - 10 (15.6%)
the Shogunate - 3 (4.7%)
Caravan Guards - 5 (7.8%)
the Risen - 4 (6.3%)
Holy Roman Empire - 4 (6.3%)
This poll was made by a drunk idiot! - 12 (18.8%)

Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 06, 2011, 03:08:10 pm
updated registered teams - added HRE
(of course heraldic transitional can be used infinite times as it always looks differently with different banner).
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Olwen on February 06, 2011, 03:20:31 pm
as Mercenaries can we have different armors for each of us ? as long as it isn't looking as another clan's
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 06, 2011, 03:24:36 pm
Quote from: Olwen on February 06, 2011, 03:20:31 pm
as Mercenaries can we have different armors for each of us ? as long as it isn't looking as another clan's

no rules are final yet, but the point is that your team should look similar. if all the armors would be heraldic i might think about that, anyways what is the reason for this?
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Olwen on February 06, 2011, 03:27:03 pm
main point of our clan, we can use the armor we prefer without restrictions and we all look different, but well if we have to look the same we will, just asking
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Krakatit on February 06, 2011, 03:27:53 pm
It is true that some people use lighter armour and some heavier. I think that using heraldic is enough to recognize one clan from the others.
But using same armor have some advantages too...
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 06, 2011, 03:34:10 pm
ok, you can use any armor if it is heraldic (so those prefering medium lighter tiers aren't so limited). i will think if its good to allow various not heraldic armors or not, for now lets say various not heraldic armor is not allowed.

the only exception is archer of course - but he should have similar armor to your heraldry, so for example red tunic over mail if your banner is red etc...
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Burr1ck on February 06, 2011, 03:38:10 pm
Sounds great! Advertise this more, you want all the clans to know  :mrgreen:. Btw, would there be room for spectators  and perhaps someone to film or livestream the event ?:D
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 06, 2011, 03:46:53 pm
Quote from: Burr1ck on February 06, 2011, 03:38:10 pm
Sounds great! Advertise this more, you want all the clans to know  :mrgreen:. Btw, would there be room for spectators  and perhaps someone to film or livestream the event ?:D

if there is anybody willing to film it, he will have his place reserved, but i don't have a special guy for that. of course i'd appreciate if anybody would do it. i sent invitations to bigger clans already. if i count 64 players maximum, i guess the maximum ammount of clans participating could be 10 (or maybe only 8) + some to record that + some substitutions for CTs. our admin odin knows how to hack the server so it has higher player limit (we might do that if may clans would like to come).

but still this is the 1st clan tournament and i don't really want to make it super big. its half serious (the results will count into the ladder, and its officially announced), half test (still its 1st tourney and its here also to fine tune some rules). similarly i didn't really advertise the previous all crpg tournament because i was afraid there will be 50 people waiting for 1 free spot on server only to be pissed off.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Tristan on February 06, 2011, 03:55:59 pm
The 1 bow only makes impossible for us to participate. (we have 2 archers).

So unfortunately we must pass...
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Krakatit on February 06, 2011, 03:57:37 pm
Well it looks like there is high demand for tournaments like this and that yesterday one :)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Lansamur on February 06, 2011, 04:02:29 pm
I think I can talk for my clan... we're interested. Dunno if i personally can make it as a friend has his opening day for a bar, but I'll try.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 06, 2011, 04:06:28 pm
Quote from: Aemaelius on February 06, 2011, 03:55:59 pm
The 1 bow only makes impossible for us to participate. (we have 2 archers).

So unfortunately we must pass...

i didn't want the tourney to turn into ranged spam (especially i was afraid of to many throwers), maybe it would be possible to trade additional bow for xbow or rather for that throwing stack. just an idea. similarly there could be an option to trade xbow+bow for 1 additional throwing stack. i know there are clans that just have different playstyle (like nords for example). aye as i keep writing this i might adjust these rules.

Quote from: Lansamur on February 06, 2011, 04:02:29 pm
I think I can talk for my clan... we're interested. Dunno if i personally can make it as a friend has his opening day for a bar, but I'll try.

thx, ok i will add you (if you want you can also specify your visual style)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Lansamur on February 06, 2011, 04:45:22 pm
We would have to find a style everyone agrees with, as we are basically either merchants or some form of Mercs with everyone's personal style.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Olwen on February 06, 2011, 04:48:34 pm
btw 6 throwing lances 5vs5, would be lame, no ?
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Lansamur on February 06, 2011, 04:55:07 pm
That's why it#s said "1 stack of throwing weapons per team"
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Astinus on February 06, 2011, 05:02:59 pm
So the fights are going to be limitated to a flat arena-like area? Why?
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 06, 2011, 05:14:44 pm
Quote from: Astinus on February 06, 2011, 05:02:59 pm
So the fights are going to be limitated to a flat arena-like area? Why?
why not? its 5vs5 only...

new rule added: no looting of weapons from ground (using already thrown weapons, shields etc...)

what do you think about adjusting what throwing weapons you can take? you could trade 2 ranged weapons for 1. for example:
- shogunate could trade 1 additional xbow and sacrifice bow&throwing stack
- nordmen could get 1 more throwing stack instead of xbow&bow
- goldengoose could get 2 bows instead of xbow+ranged stack
etc...
so the ranged combat would more resemble the actual prefered playstyle fo the clans.

registrations will close when 8 clans apply (due to maximum 64 players server limit), this may but also may not change in the future (odin can hack the server so it supports more players).
until now there are 3 participants
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Krakatit on February 06, 2011, 05:22:43 pm
Order of the Rose is signing up. We have not agreed on equip yet but it might be transitional armor (heraldic ofcourse) and helmet is being discussed...
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 06, 2011, 05:24:33 pm
Quote from: Krakatit on February 06, 2011, 05:22:43 pm
Order of the Rose is signing up. We have not agreed on equip yet but it might be transitional armor (heraldic ofcourse) and helmet is being discussed...
ty updated, 4 slots remaining
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Yenward on February 06, 2011, 05:28:44 pm
Quote from: Beauchamp on February 06, 2011, 05:14:44 pm
what do you think about adjusting what throwing weapons you can take? you could trade 2 ranged weapons for 1. for example:
- shogunate could trade 1 additional xbow and sacrifice bow&throwing stack
- nordmen could get 1 more throwing stack instead of xbow&bow
- goldengoose could get 2 bows instead of xbow+ranged stack
etc...
so the ranged combat would more resemble the actual prefered playstyle fo the clans.

I think it's a good idea, will broaden the list of potential participants, as well as add some variety to the fights.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Krakatit on February 06, 2011, 05:30:50 pm
Quote from: Beauchamp on February 06, 2011, 05:24:33 pm
ty updated, 4 slots remaining

Thanks! Im looking forward to it :)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Ujin on February 06, 2011, 05:31:27 pm
reserve a slot for us please
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 06, 2011, 05:33:35 pm
Quote from: Shogunate_Ujin on February 06, 2011, 05:31:27 pm
reserve a slot for us please
ok updated
3 slots remaining
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Torp on February 06, 2011, 06:00:41 pm
then i'll hurry and reserve a slot for the ninjas :D

Visual style:
Black hood with mask
Black lammelar vest
Khergit leather boots
Leather gloves
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 06, 2011, 06:04:35 pm
Quote from: Torp on February 06, 2011, 06:00:41 pm
then i'll hurry and reserve a slot for the ninjas :D

Visual style:
Black hood with mask
Black lammelar vest
Khergit leather boots
Leather gloves

updated, ty
2 free slots left
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 06, 2011, 06:06:04 pm
rule adjusted
you can trade 2 ranged weapons for 1 other of your choice (for example additional throwing stack for bow+xbow etc..)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Olwen on February 06, 2011, 06:11:47 pm
we'll take a slot too
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 06, 2011, 06:13:05 pm
Quote from: Olwen on February 06, 2011, 06:11:47 pm
we'll take a slot too
ok thx, updated
1 slot remaining
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Thovex on February 06, 2011, 08:27:23 pm
Can the Risen come too?  :) Will be discussing armor...

Not everybody has our heavy armor so if it would be possible to have 2 armor sets?  :?:
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Yaron on February 06, 2011, 09:01:48 pm
Alts of clan members are allowed I hope?
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 06, 2011, 10:04:59 pm
Quote from: Thovex on February 06, 2011, 08:27:23 pm
Can the Risen come too?  :) Will be discussing armor...

Not everybody has our heavy armor so if it would be possible to have 2 armor sets?  :?:

any clan can come (i sent invitations only to big clans, but it doesnt mean small ones can't come), will keep slots reserved for you. ty
make a suggestion on what exact armor u want to use and than we can discuss it.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 06, 2011, 10:13:19 pm
REGISTRATIONS CLOSED, you still can register your clan to be a substitute in the case when sbdy of above registered clans won't come. IF many (like about 4) clans will apply, we will possibly hack the server so it can take more than 64 player limits and open registrations again for more clans.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Thovex on February 06, 2011, 10:38:08 pm
We shall be using Risen heavy armor; Sarranid Guard Armor, Millanese Sallet.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Ecko on February 06, 2011, 11:31:07 pm
I dunno how ATS would do in EU ping
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 06, 2011, 11:40:50 pm
Quote from: Thovex on February 06, 2011, 10:38:08 pm
We shall be using Risen heavy armor; Sarranid Guard Armor, Millanese Sallet.

risen heavy armor? what is that?
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Poetrydog on February 06, 2011, 11:44:39 pm
It's the sarranig guard armor and open sallet if I'm not mistaken  :)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 07, 2011, 12:33:51 pm
anybody please vote in a poll to divide clans into 2 groups, ty
btw each user has 2 votes, try to spread out the votes a bit so everybody has different ammount.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Thovex on February 07, 2011, 01:01:31 pm
Quote from: Beauchamp on February 06, 2011, 11:40:50 pm
risen heavy armor? what is that?

I typed it even in your quote  :lol: :Sarranid Guard Armor, Millanese Sallet.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Krakatit on February 07, 2011, 01:53:35 pm
I would like to ask if we can use different helmets. We are going to use heraldic transitional armor and i think that everyone can see that we are from roses when we have those. We are always using different helmets in game. We use helmets to distinct us from each other and it is too a matter of style of each member :) 
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 07, 2011, 02:07:37 pm
Quote from: Thovex on February 07, 2011, 01:01:31 pm
I typed it even in your quote  :lol: :Sarranid Guard Armor, Millanese Sallet.
didnt get what you meant - aye sarranid guard armor + milanese sallet is ok, will update that
ty

roses: ok if u use heraldry, different helmets are ok.

edit: new rule - helmets can be different no matter the armor
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 07, 2011, 02:09:31 pm
Quote from: Yaron on February 06, 2011, 09:01:48 pm
Alts of clan members are allowed I hope?
yes
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 07, 2011, 02:52:30 pm
edited poll question, this way it was setup before i couldnt make people vote for all the teams
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Poetrydog on February 07, 2011, 03:21:40 pm
You can vote on two teams now  :)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 07, 2011, 04:14:55 pm
35 members voted, locking the poll...

Mercenaries 22
the Shogunate 10 (9)
Fallen Brigade 7
Caravan Guards 5
the Risen 4
Ninjas 3
Holy Roman Empire 1(2)
Order of the Rose 1

(im giving 1 of my votes i gave to shogunate to hre instead so they have 2 and not 1 - this leaves 2 following groups)

group A
1 - Mercs
2 - Fallen Brigade
3 - Ninjas
4 - Order of the Rose

group B
1 - the Shogunate
2 - Caravan Guards
3 - the Risen
4 - Holy Roman Empire

- clans from each group will meet each opponent from the same group once (so it means 2x6 fights in starting group rounds)
- according of points aquired 1st from A meets 1st from B for tournament champion, 2nd from A meets 2nd from B etc...
- there is always only 1 fight for AvsB groups, only for the tournament winner there is going to be the best of 3 fights.
- if 2 clans have same ammount of points after the group fights, they have 1 additional rematch to determinate their position within a group.
- alltogether there should be about 17-20 matches (5 minutes a round maximum), so tournament should last a bit over 1 hour
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: [ptx] on February 07, 2011, 04:44:34 pm
Fail Poll. :P
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Torp on February 07, 2011, 04:57:20 pm
Group A is a killer group!

i bet A will take 1st, 3rd and maybe 5th
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 07, 2011, 05:04:20 pm
Quote from: Torp on February 07, 2011, 04:57:20 pm
Group A is a killer group!

i bet A will take 1st, 3rd and maybe 5th

you probably haven't seen vMega, Krampe, Biohazzard and other HRE in action :o)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Torp on February 07, 2011, 05:15:42 pm
Quote from: Beauchamp on February 07, 2011, 05:04:20 pm
you probably haven't seen vMega, Krampe, Biohazzard and other HRE in action :o)

still many ppl who can beat them
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Ujin on February 07, 2011, 08:05:10 pm
Shogunate team would like to use  khergit elite armor+vaegir war masks.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 07, 2011, 08:57:50 pm
Quote from: Shogunate_Ujin on February 07, 2011, 08:05:10 pm
Shogunate team would like to use  khergit elite armor+vaegir war masks.

ok, ty
updated
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Olwen on February 08, 2011, 05:25:26 pm
probably heraldic armor for us
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Lansamur on February 08, 2011, 06:01:04 pm
For us probably too (except the archer(Tenne or me) who takes Studded Leather Coat), but definite answer on what armor comes friday at the latest.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 08, 2011, 07:10:49 pm
ok, updated, ty
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 08, 2011, 10:00:34 pm
new poll :o)

btw anybody knows how to reset the poll completely - adjust number of votes/user, adjust changing of votes etc...?
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: TomMyyY on February 09, 2011, 04:27:32 am
We will pay some more attention and try to be at any next clan tournament  :rolleyes:.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Dunecat on February 09, 2011, 07:36:38 am
It's Searaiders, not "Seariders". :o
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Lansamur on February 09, 2011, 12:21:33 pm
Okay, Guards agreed on our final equipment for main Infantrygroup:

Khergit Guard Equipment (Khergit Guard Armor, Khergit Guard helmet, Khergit Guard Boots, Scale Gauntlets)

Archer:
Tenne: Open Sallet, Haubergeon, Mail Gauntlets, Mail Boots


I will not be able to take part anymore, I'm terribly sorry. But Tenne more than just makes up for me.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 09, 2011, 03:07:09 pm
ty, updated
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Leiknir on February 09, 2011, 03:50:37 pm
Quote from: Dunecat on February 09, 2011, 07:36:38 am
It's Searaiders, not "Seariders". :o

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Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Krakatit on February 09, 2011, 03:56:17 pm
No clan have applied as substitute? I was thinking that at least 3 clans would apply :/
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 09, 2011, 04:43:07 pm
its a pity, but i think lets leave it like its now, it will still be official tournament but with smaller numbers (i will fine tune some rules that will show stupid for the next bigger tourney). once odin hacks server there can be 20 clans on the same map, no problem...
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 10, 2011, 01:01:50 am
only turks revealed their interest in participating in the tourney since the last (8th clan registered) - thanks a lot to them for revealing their interest in the tournament, i appreciate that!
but i'm not going to force it so much so i decided to close the registrations permanently when we had only 1 additional clan registered.
8 clans already registered - we've got 2 groups, if 1 or more clan doesn't come, we will have 1 big 7 members group instead.

the 1st tourney will therefore be limited to 8 clans max, for the next tourney server will be hacked for 200+ players and rules will be polished according to saturday event. still this is considered an official tournament - meaning results will go into the ladder syste i'm preparing, but it will on the other hand be half serious and half for the testing with limited ammount of people.

thx for understanding B.

and of course.... NEW POLL :o)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: bredeus on February 10, 2011, 09:46:50 am
gosh, seems we're the worse. Sadly we do not participate.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Krakatit on February 10, 2011, 03:36:26 pm
Lots of people puts faith in us :)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Tristan on February 10, 2011, 04:29:09 pm
Beau... just a thing to beware of as well.

The reason why we are not signing up, is that we will never be able to attend on saturdays. Had in been almost any other day except friday, we might have participated.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Lansamur on February 10, 2011, 06:09:28 pm
Yeah, Saturdays are kinda awkward... Normally RL-time to go out and get buzzed or have some fun (both?), not sit in front of my PC and play some game. Fridays and Saturdays are not the best choice for those things, everything else would be mostly okay.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Olwen on February 10, 2011, 06:24:38 pm
Quote from: Beauchamp on February 10, 2011, 01:01:50 am
only turks revealed their interest in participating in the tourney since the last (8th clan registered) - thanks a lot to them for revealing their interest in the tournament, i appreciate that!
but i'm not going to force it so much so i decided to close the registrations permanently when we had only 1 additional clan registered.
8 clans already registered - we've got 2 groups, if 1 or more clan doesn't come, we will have 1 big 7 members group instead.

the 1st tourney will therefore be limited to 8 clans max, for the next tourney server will be hacked for 200+ players and rules will be polished according to saturday event. still this is considered an official tournament - meaning results will go into the ladder syste i'm preparing, but it will on the other hand be half serious and half for the testing with limited ammount of people.

thx for understanding B.

and of course.... NEW POLL :o)

200 players ? you're server is already laggy, want us to have 200 ping ? :x
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Krakatit on February 10, 2011, 06:49:20 pm
Quote from: Lansamur on February 10, 2011, 06:09:28 pm
Yeah, Saturdays are kinda awkward... Normally RL-time to go out and get buzzed or have some fun (both?), not sit in front of my PC and play some game. Fridays and Saturdays are not the best choice for those things, everything else would be mostly okay.

When you have a real life then youre not good enough to participate   :wink:
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Jambi on February 10, 2011, 07:46:33 pm
Quote from: Beauchamp on February 06, 2011, 03:34:10 pm
ok, you can use any armor if it is heraldic (so those prefering medium lighter tiers aren't so limited). i will think if its good to allow various not heraldic armors or not, for now lets say various not heraldic armor is not allowed.

the only exception is archer of course - but he should have similar armor to your heraldry, so for example red tunic over mail if your banner is red etc...

Sounds like you want too nerf Archers even more for your tournament :P

Studded leather coat = only win  :lol:
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 10, 2011, 10:42:21 pm
new and the last poll until the tourney starts...
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Thovex on February 10, 2011, 11:30:12 pm
Quote from: Krakatit on February 10, 2011, 06:49:20 pm
When you have a real life then youre not good enough to participate   :wink:
:lol: :lol:
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 12, 2011, 10:22:17 am
password is up
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Olwen on February 12, 2011, 05:29:35 pm
i'll use my usual armor though, the one on my avatar, think it isn't a problem
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 12, 2011, 05:36:02 pm
Quote from: Olwen on February 12, 2011, 05:29:35 pm
i'll use my usual armor though, the one on my avatar, think it isn't a problem
i'm against it. everybody is fighting in the same stuff so you should also do the same. i don't think it would be sucha  big problem as with white armor you'd still be fiting well to the style of other mercs, but if there are some rules, they should be the same for everybody.

well we might still change them, but only if there is some good reason to do so...
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 12, 2011, 05:44:51 pm
btw during the tournament you can join our TS (its optional, all calls will also be given in a teamchat)

server= fallenbrigade.org
port = 9987
password= ginnungagap
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Burr1ck on February 12, 2011, 06:01:36 pm
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Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 12, 2011, 08:36:09 pm
btw please:
- DO NOT ATTACK CATAPULTS
- IF YOU ARE NOT MEMBER OF A CLAN PARTICIPATING, DO NOT JOIN THE SERVER (we're limited only to 64 players, it will be close if some clans will have substitutions etc...)
- IF YOU ARE RECORDING THE EVENT, YOU ARE OF COURSE WELCOMED
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Thovex on February 12, 2011, 10:41:24 pm
Thanks for tournament, our guy's ping messed up really bad (ranged from 160-600) hopefully it will be better in the next tournament for a rematch?  :?:
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Olwen on February 12, 2011, 10:53:33 pm
bad ping and bad server but well, nice game
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Xant on February 12, 2011, 10:57:29 pm
Quote from: Olwen on February 12, 2011, 10:53:33 pm
bad ping and bad server but well, nice game

Yeah, laggy but it was fun. Maybe think about reducing the map only to the arena bit?
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Espu on February 12, 2011, 11:01:26 pm
The concept is great, nice job organizing Beauchamp. The server obviously sucked, that needs to be fixed. The other thing would be to enforce proper behavior. That fist-kick-jump-CAPS-spamming just ruined the atmosphere IMO.

Good tournament anyway. Nice fights even though we screwed up the final.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 12, 2011, 11:02:06 pm
- anybody has ideas why those catapults were spawning etc...?
- sbdy said its because deathmatch mode is messed up for crpg, but i dunno any other details. if deathmatch is fucked up, i think we should spam chadz so he fixes it and makes events like this one easier and less laggy.
- if only small arena will fix anything, i'm totaly down for anybody making it

btw i'm going to sum up the results now...

and thx to everybody who participated
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Punisher on February 12, 2011, 11:02:10 pm
I recorded most matches, rendering now, will post them later.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Ujin on February 12, 2011, 11:07:17 pm
Thanks everyone , was fun both watching and participating and thanks Fallens for organizing this ! =)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Burr1ck on February 12, 2011, 11:12:15 pm
Well played everyone, was a fun tournament  :D. However, the server crashing and the random fighting was very annoying.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Mtemtko on February 12, 2011, 11:23:10 pm
Quote from: Burr1ck on February 12, 2011, 11:12:15 pm
Well played everyone, was a fun tournament  :D. However, the server crashing and the random fighting was very annoying.

Yeah crashed 4 times, couldnt log on again for a while since the server was full  :?
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 12, 2011, 11:46:12 pm
new poll

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once again, thx to everybody who participated. for sure there is going to be another tournament, only dunno when and dunno what is it going to be like (probably one of these - individual, clan or horseback duels)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: NuberT on February 13, 2011, 12:03:11 am
THX Beauchamp for organizing this, was fun!
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Punisher on February 13, 2011, 12:03:18 am
Here are the battles I recored, unfortunately I had some technical problems at first and couldn't get all qualifyers.

Qualifying rounds

Guards vs Risen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejALVg3jqXU
Fallen Brigade vs Roses http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lodLhjXH774
Risen vs HRE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SER0iKFiL_A
Mercs vs Fallen Brigade http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6oWBLvKmBg
Shogunate vs HRE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lT06VnPT5s

Final rounds

Risen vs Roses, fight for 7th place http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxrB9MeDp1Q
Ninja vs Guards, fight for 5th place http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUDfiiTN-Sw
Holy Roman Empire vs Fallen Brigade, fight for 3rd place http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWau_SP9QIw
Shogunate vs Mercs, the FINAL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ2Am0VVYIM


Beauchamp, maybe you can put them in the first post?


Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Varyag on February 13, 2011, 12:16:13 am
next time please make 10 vs 10 clan tournament. Thats twice the fun  :P
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Thovex on February 13, 2011, 12:30:36 am
Quote from: Varyag on February 13, 2011, 12:16:13 am
next time please make 10 vs 10 clan tournament. Thats twice the fun  :P

Time to start training more folks...  :wink:
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 13, 2011, 12:31:43 am
Quote from: Varyag on February 13, 2011, 12:16:13 am
next time please make 10 vs 10 clan tournament. Thats twice the fun  :P

dunno what will be next, mostly depends on what people want i think, because now i don't mind what the next event will be...
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: MrExxc on February 13, 2011, 01:36:40 am
Woops, I hit 6 thinking 7 was best (poll), but actually I wanted to put 2, I withdraw a point because of some organisation stuff, like the moment everyone was killing each other etc...  But whatever, that has alot to do with some people childish behaviour, but can we blame them? They were prolly just exited.

Anyways, great tournament, thx a lot, I hope we'll have some other very soon!

Quote from: Varyag on February 13, 2011, 12:16:13 am
next time please make 10 vs 10 clan tournament. Thats twice the fun  :P
I've got to agree with that, but having 10 people available at the same time is maybe difficult for some teams...

The roses will be back to win something in the end :D
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 13, 2011, 02:49:02 am
btw u can put your oppinions about what the next tournament should be like (individual vs clan, how many players in teams, ranged, melee, horseback etc...)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Yenward on February 13, 2011, 05:58:39 am
Silly me, hitting 6 instead of 2. >.< Was quite interesting, I never took part in a tournament before. The organisation was also good, I think, since you did what you could to keep it more or less structured. All in all, I had fun, especially when you kicked me, Beau. xD

For the next tournament I'd very much like to see:
1) a mounted part. Could be either jousting or a mass-melee on horses.
2) a final melee in the end (not FFA-killing all around), where all teams go down to the fighting area and then slaughter each other until only one man stands. Maybe this one survivor could get a special prize or something. :)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Olwen on February 13, 2011, 08:56:44 am
fix your server or do it on another server, as you can see at 0:42 against shogunate bjord lagged letting xant being backstabbed and outnumbered, main reason why we lost imo
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: BD_Guard_Bane on February 13, 2011, 09:00:43 am
Congratulations Shogunate!

Does this mean that when people want to win wars in Strategus, they should hire the Shogunate now?  :P


Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Olwen on February 13, 2011, 09:02:29 am
enjoy taunting us :) still we lost because of lags imo, and i doubt it can really be denied with the video ...
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Torak on February 13, 2011, 09:06:46 am
all of us had lag but u had shields to hide behinde some off us dident ;)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Olwen on February 13, 2011, 09:09:28 am
meh, xant has no shield :xxx, and bjord lagged to the middle of the map ffs :x this noob :)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Torak on February 13, 2011, 09:14:16 am
did not say that al of you had shields I did only say that you had shields...

But i think you did wery good in the tornument :)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Olwen on February 13, 2011, 09:18:52 am
ty, but we obviously failed + lagged in the last round, some of us think it'll fuck up our reputation, well maybe, though it'd be unfair from people not to see that the fight wasn't fair because of the lag, but i'm confident that if they think shogunate is better than us they'll regret it sooner or later in strategus :) anyway i knew it would be harder against shogunate and they did well on their side, so still gratz for the victory :)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Torak on February 13, 2011, 09:22:05 am
yes the lag was relly bad but the two best teams were clerly in the final :) and no i don't think pepole are going to think less off you :)
gratz 2 the 2 place from the ninja's (ho got kick badly by you  :mrgreen:)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Hideyoshi on February 13, 2011, 09:30:18 am
Quote
Does this mean that when people want to win wars in Strategus, they should hire the Shogunate now?  :P
Hire mercs and shogunate for epic win  :twisted:
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Olwen on February 13, 2011, 09:35:15 am
Quote from: Hideyoshi on February 13, 2011, 09:30:18 am
Hire mercs and shogunate for epic win  :twisted:

obviously :)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Torp on February 13, 2011, 10:09:02 am
hire phyrex for AWESOME EPIC OP win

phyrex beats mercs+shognate alone!
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Punisher on February 13, 2011, 10:26:38 am
I have some suggestions for the next tournament:

Everyone who is not fighting joins spectators, instead of spawning. No more people killing eachother, attacking the catapults, etc. You also get a much better view of the fights from spectator mode, so I don't see why anyone would disagree. Even organisers should be spectators as it is a lot easier to overview the battlefield as spectator.

If only the 10 people that fight spawn, it's very easy to spot people who disobey and kick/ban them. In deathmatch you can't see their names.

Also with only the fighters spawning you can use the cRPG battle mode - no more crashes, lag, etc.

And last but not least, server capacity should be extended to 120 (Odin said he can do it as far as I know)  and you should use the pink admin chat Beauchamp, your reports were hard to read in grey chat when everyone was spamming it.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Thovex on February 13, 2011, 10:34:10 am
Quote from: Olwen on February 13, 2011, 09:18:52 am
ty, but we obviously failed + lagged in the last round, some of us think it'll fuck up our reputation, well maybe, though it'd be unfair from people not to see that the fight wasn't fair because of the lag, but i'm confident that if they think shogunate is better than us they'll regret it sooner or later in strategus :) anyway i knew it would be harder against shogunate and they did well on their side, so still gratz for the victory :)

our lag was worse.  :(
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Roran Hawkins on February 13, 2011, 10:38:47 am
Nice fights everyone, we ended last but we were the only guys the mercs didn't flawless :D. I've learned the lesson that when you are lagging like crazy, don't go speed-based, I got 2-hitted every fight but the last one, against the Risen. We had to RP and go with 3 vs 3 though. Too bad when it was 1 vs 1 I got killed by laggs...

Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Wookimonsta on February 13, 2011, 11:20:38 am
most importantly, is Bjord going to leave the mercs? He said he would if they lost to the shogunate.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Olwen on February 13, 2011, 11:26:50 am
nah he won't leave, we'll kick him  :twisted:
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Wookimonsta on February 13, 2011, 11:30:22 am
Quote from: Olwen on February 13, 2011, 11:26:50 am
nah he won't leave, we'll kick him  :twisted:
man, what a pansy, you guys should kick him for that.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Olwen on February 13, 2011, 11:37:20 am
you're kicked Wooki
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Xant on February 13, 2011, 12:48:12 pm
Quote from: Olwen on February 13, 2011, 08:56:44 am
fix your server or do it on another server, as you can see at 0:42 against shogunate bjord lagged letting xant being backstabbed and outnumbered, main reason why we lost imo

To be fair, Olwen, mine and Bjord's ping spikes weren't the server's fault. The ping was naturally high there, but it didn't cause the 150-400 spikes. (Crappy FPS though, as I said before, make the arena smaller, remove all the unnecessary shit outside the main thing!)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 13, 2011, 01:07:24 pm
obviously not everybody is able to win everything (not even mercs) and strategus is something quite different from 5v5 fights where 1st down usually causes the other one to be backstabbed sooner or later and so on...

good ideas punisher about spec mode and maybe even battle mode - we will however miss audience and atmosphere wich is imo quite important. but i think i might use some of these ideas. btw how do you use admin chat? :p

i'm no mapmaker so i cant make a tourney map, but i'm not against it if anybody else will make some.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Poetrydog on February 13, 2011, 01:33:31 pm
What about making one of your beloved polls Beau with suggestions for next tourney?
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 13, 2011, 01:41:42 pm
Quote from: Poetrydog on February 13, 2011, 01:33:31 pm
What about making one of your beloved polls Beau with suggestions for next tourney?

:o)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Punisher on February 13, 2011, 02:44:32 pm
Love how people voted the questions, the cRPG community IQ is so high.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Everkistus on February 13, 2011, 03:57:22 pm
I propose next an invidiual tournament next saturday or sunday. It would be nice to do either on alternating weeks.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Xant on February 13, 2011, 04:07:09 pm
Quote from: Everkistus on February 13, 2011, 03:57:22 pm
I propose next an invidiual tournament next saturday or sunday. It would be nice to do either on alternating weeks.
clan tournament
18 (36%)
individual tournament
2 (4%)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Korgoth on February 13, 2011, 04:16:23 pm
Maybe do a 6 v 6 or 7 v 7?

I WOULD LOVE A NO RANGED TOURNEY
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Everkistus on February 13, 2011, 04:39:05 pm
Just an idea:

7 vs 7 tournament, 8 clans, that means 56 players on server. Someone can do a livefeed from the server to youtube or something else so people can watch it.

Max 3 team members with ranged (for example: 1 bow, 1 xbow, 1 throwing.

Same organizing system as last time, just with more people.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 13, 2011, 04:43:04 pm
Quote from: Everkistus on February 13, 2011, 04:39:05 pm
Same organizing system as last time, just with more people.

this will not work imo, if we want a bigger tourney we have to either adjust the server capacity or make it during more days. (1st day group A, 2nd day group B, 3rd day finals).
if clan tournament will win, more detailed poll about that will come after to specify the details. i'm not against dividing tournament into more days or making it bigger, but if ill test another game mode (not laggy buggy deathmatch), i'd prefer to be less people there and doing it 1 event only to see how things will work out.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Sultan_Khalifa on February 13, 2011, 04:58:55 pm
Quote from: Beauchamp on February 13, 2011, 01:41:42 pm
:o)

well how about ask warcat to make a map of just the arena?
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Xant on February 13, 2011, 05:13:15 pm
How will you fix the "server is full" issue? It was OK now because people kept crashing all the time, but that's not really an optimal solution. :D
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 13, 2011, 05:14:36 pm
Quote from: Xant on February 13, 2011, 05:13:15 pm
How will you fix the "server is full" issue? It was OK now because people kept crashing all the time, but that's not really an optimal solution. :D

our admin odin knows how to hack the server so it can support over 200 people...
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Punisher on February 13, 2011, 05:18:18 pm
The limit should be 120 though, we all know how laggy EU4 was when it had more than 120 slots. And 120 is more than enough.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 13, 2011, 05:24:43 pm
last tournament was 8 teams (5 teamsize).
this meant 40 people minimum
about 70 slots would be enough for that, so you need like 7/4*teams*teamsize slots (maybe for smaller teams probably a bit more than for bigger ones)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Xant on February 13, 2011, 05:26:20 pm
Quote from: Beauchamp on February 13, 2011, 05:14:36 pm
our admin odin knows how to hack the server so it can support over 200 people...

Yeah, but that won't exactly help the lag..
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 13, 2011, 05:30:58 pm
Quote from: Xant on February 13, 2011, 05:26:20 pm
Yeah, but that won't exactly help the lag..
1st - i believe tha lag would be lower if the deathmatch mode wouldn't be broken
2nd - shogunate say their server is less laggy than ours

ill try to test both for the next tournament, i know i have to organize tournament on other server to definitely find out the truth if only our one is laggy or not. but its quite strange, i got 24 ping on our tournament server - less than on any other crpg server. on the other hand, others had x*100 ping with x varying from 1 to 5). for this i think the problem may not be the server but also the bugged deathmatch.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Torp on February 13, 2011, 05:55:03 pm
Quote from: Beauchamp on February 13, 2011, 05:30:58 pm
1st - i believe tha lag would be lower if the deathmatch mode wouldn't be broken
2nd - shogunate say their server is less laggy than ours

ill try to test both for the next tournament, i know i have to organize tournament on other server to definitely find out the truth if only our one is laggy or not. but its quite strange, i got 24 ping on our tournament server - less than on any other crpg server. on the other hand, others had x*100 ping with x varying from 1 to 5). for this i think the problem may not be the server but also the bugged deathmatch.

i normally have 42-45 ping on eu servers, but i have 160 on yours and more lags than when i play on na servers
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Xant on February 13, 2011, 06:04:36 pm
Quote from: Beauchamp on February 13, 2011, 05:30:58 pm
1st - i believe tha lag would be lower if the deathmatch mode wouldn't be broken
2nd - shogunate say their server is less laggy than ours

ill try to test both for the next tournament, i know i have to organize tournament on other server to definitely find out the truth if only our one is laggy or not. but its quite strange, i got 24 ping on our tournament server - less than on any other crpg server. on the other hand, others had x*100 ping with x varying from 1 to 5). for this i think the problem may not be the server but also the bugged deathmatch.

Yes, but people start getting FPS lag at high number of players too.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 13, 2011, 06:16:58 pm
makes no sense to discuss it anymore. some changes will be tried out, we'll see how they work or not.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: MrExxc on February 14, 2011, 09:25:18 am
Maybe for next tournament, have an established roster, cause some teams had around 10 people on the server, I know it's because everyone wanted to play, and that's good, but for the next meeting, maybe have a fixed roster, with eventually substitutes that would be warned via TS or whatever. That's also to the teams to act more civilised, and not bringing 1/2 of cRPG on the server.

I voted >10, because I think some teams might want to work on their teamplay a bit, and it's not that easy to "book" a saturday evening for everyone every weekend, so... :P
Also if we have a tournament every weekend, or even 2 per month, I'm afraid, the excitement will be lost, don't rush good things.
I also voted for clan tournament, because that's imo what's more interresting, you play solo every day in battle mode... And it would maybe get some new players to join clans, wich isn't a bad thing!
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 14, 2011, 12:24:05 pm
aye fixed maximum ammount of people coming from each clan is a good idea, i will implement it for the next tourney. i don't really want to limit people in anything (thats why it was in DM mode, anybody could come etc...). but some limits will probably be needed. next tourney will also be in CTF mode, so no more buggy spawning, red text etc... it will require more cooperation from the clans, but i think it could be done.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 14, 2011, 12:34:13 pm
new poll
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: [ptx] on February 14, 2011, 12:53:16 pm
Clan team size and restrictions are both good things, i approve.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: OOODIIINVALHALLAAAAAA on February 14, 2011, 01:40:04 pm
Quote from: [ptx] on February 14, 2011, 12:53:16 pm
Clan team size and restrictions are both good things, i approve.

Yes... this complicated things must be absolutely approved.

and if  98% of players have a good and  2%a bad ping on a server it might have to do with the clientside  no?
OR there is some  SQL database driver or program or both asking over and over for data on the server side  (fallen servers are still not connected to chazius database testbed) and this program dont gets the data, is programmed by a noob and therefore dont shuts down if it recognises that the  database isnt respond.... and so on:

in short:
Test it, go to a friend, maybe someone who hasnt a ping problem with a fallen server, play on his computer with your account, what do you think will happen?  i tell you: you will have the same ping than his/her has with his/her account.

uhhhh that was had stuff, i thought there are some students in their last semesters are there?

Fact is: It has to do with YOUR Computer because you maybe dont know how to configure it  right or  you have some strange SQL software running on it, from what you dont know it came from if you really hard and cool  reinstall your whole computer with only M&B and retry (mybe you have a second compuer to try .

Edit:you play with the same mount&blade version and everything than your friend has on his computer with  Your account you have probems on a fallen/server without database connection to the chadzius databaseruin to keep that clear ok?

i hope you can understand if not i am sorry
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Wookimonsta on February 14, 2011, 02:21:59 pm
lolwut?
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Punisher on February 14, 2011, 08:45:03 pm
For next tourmanent I think there should be 10 spots, and assuming the clans who fought in the first one will fight again, keep Mercs and Shogunate in different groups and swap the others + add 1 new competitor in each group so everyone fights new opponents during the qualifiers.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 15, 2011, 04:26:24 pm
next tournament will be:

clan tournament
7 member clanteams
limited range (probably same rules as in previous tournament but with more people in clanteam the range will be limited a bit more)

depending on how many clans apply it will be 1 or 3 days event.
either 1 big group and 1 day
or
1st day group A
2nd day group B
3rd day finals (probably week later or so...)

still i'm not sure about the date yet
there will be a new thread for that once i will be sure about the time
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Varyag on February 15, 2011, 06:32:27 pm
cool. What about prizes?
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Torp on February 15, 2011, 06:50:53 pm
Quote from: Varyag on February 15, 2011, 06:32:27 pm
cool. What about prizes?

honour
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 15, 2011, 07:00:08 pm
Quote from: Varyag on February 15, 2011, 06:32:27 pm
cool. What about prices?
haven't thought about that yet, until now i thought entrance could be for free. maybe only rich mercs could pay 1 heirloom/clanteam member.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Bjarky on February 15, 2011, 08:45:32 pm
Quote from: Beauchamp on February 15, 2011, 07:00:08 pm
haven't thought about that yet, until now i thought entrance could be for free. maybe only rich mercs could pay 1 heirloom/clanteam member.
haha, don't forget to give us 10% of every transaction  :twisted:
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 01)
Post by: Beauchamp on February 17, 2011, 03:57:20 pm
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