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Title: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: Hiro on October 26, 2011, 06:11:29 am
*sry admins I wrongly started the same topic in Event board*

the whole process is like this:
yesterday I reached lv31 and I started a thread to sell my loompoint in need of some gold

after a while a guy PMed me and told me he'd pay me 450 if I heirloom a hourglass for him (for the time being I can't point out his ID)

"that's a large sum of money"I thought.  then I accepted his offer and retired. I put the +1 hand armor on the market and noticed him to receive the cargo

but today when I logged in to check whether I've got the payment, I only found a PM to tell me that he'll buy my +1 gear "but nor for 450k"(I'm pretty sure he meant 'not' not 'nor' maybe a spellinmistake), so I feel that I was extorted by him

so I'm in panic now and dunno to whom to turn for help

guys what should I do in such a worrying situation? any suggestions?
Title: Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: Winterly on October 26, 2011, 06:14:37 am
ouch....if you go on IRC chat, some admin may be able to reply and help you faster. lesson is to look for trusted traders or experienced...what's this persons name? I remember seeing your sell thread because I was also looking to buy loompoints.
Title: Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: Torben on October 26, 2011, 06:18:41 am
450k is a very normal price. 

if he doesnt comply please just openly post your correspondence here,  showing everyone what kind of deal you had and with whom.  people tend to give in to public pressure before completely ruining there rep.
Title: Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: SeQuel on October 26, 2011, 07:19:07 am
450k is normal place, if he trys to get anything lower then I'd say 420k then I'd post his name here for public to see.
Title: Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: Vibe on October 26, 2011, 07:27:09 am
welp
Title: Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: Dach on October 26, 2011, 08:40:17 am
450k is normal place, if he trys to get anything lower then I'd say 420k then I'd post his name here for public to see.

Hey! just buyed a loom point 400k yesterday... screw you Sequel  :P
Title: Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: Hiro on October 26, 2011, 12:44:32 pm
Hey! just buyed a loom point 400k yesterday... screw you Sequel  :P
yeah the price of a point is around 400-450 and we all know that

if he stated a price of 400k yesterday I probably would accept it, too.

now that he'd promised to pay 450k then he should keep his words

not to mention that it is likely he's dreaming of possessing my equipment with no more than 300k

btw your avatar is awesome :wink:

thx for your suggestions guys :D I shall wait for his reply, if there's nothing within this day, I might have to adopt some unfriendly measures
Title: Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: Bulzur on October 26, 2011, 03:34:28 pm
Am i the only one who thinks the OP is actually at wrong here ?  :shock:
after a while a guy PMed me and told me he'd pay me 450 if I heirloom a hourglass for him (for the time being I can't point out his ID)

"that's a large sum of money"I thought.  then I accepted his offer and retired. I put the +1 hand armor on the market and noticed him to receive the cargo


Usually, you buy loompoints to heirloom your already heirloom stuff, to a higher level. Aka, my +2 weapon to a +3, or my +1 armor to a +2. I don't see why anyone would buy a heirloom point to get a +1 item from it. At 450k... seriously.
As i see it, this guy (ID unknown) asked if you could heirloom a hourglass (take attention that it's not decided if it would be from 0 to +1, or +1 to +2, or +2 to +3, no indication), and THEN the OP just heirloom his OWN hourglass from 0 to +1, and ask 450k for it.

I'm sorry, but most (if not all) heirloom points, are this sort of deal :
Seller selling heirloom pont for 450k. Buyer accepting offer.
Buyer selling his +1 or +2 item at whatever price (normal price + 200k).
Seller buying it, then heirlooming it.
Seller selling the +2 or +3 item at 450k+price at wich he bought it.
Buyer buying it.
The END.

There's also other sort, like Seller offering a torch for the +1 or +2 item and 450k, then buyer offering a torch for the +2 or +3 item (if you have complete faith in Seller). But the point is, it's not a +1 item at the end. No point in buying an heirloom point for 450k for a mere +1. :S


It's not precised in the topic, so instead of going all "Oh, rage, that damn guy, scammer, whatever", i'd like to side with the buyer, following my arguments, since we definitely don't have enough information about this trade.


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Title: Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: Arcona on October 26, 2011, 03:48:06 pm
Or this is life and thats what you get for making such deals without collateral...

Money first.
Buy/sell to people you know/trust.

I dont see why an -admin- should do anything about it. So the guy messed with you and now is offering a lower price. Well sell the item to someone else (via marketplace or relative forum) instead... or cut your losses and get what you can from him while warning others of his details so that he is shunned by the community...

But honestly I dont see why some "High Authority" should intervene. I dont see anywhere in the rules "Be honorable and dont mess with gullible people"...
Title: Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: sF_Zorro on October 26, 2011, 05:54:02 pm
450

hehe your just a bad dealer xD
look i dont see 450k.
Title: Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: Patricia on October 26, 2011, 09:36:31 pm

hehe your just a bad dealer xD
look i dont see 450k.

Hoho, hello Mr Edgy Smartass.
Title: Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: Penitent on October 26, 2011, 09:41:44 pm
Lots of people buy a loom point to get a +1.  I've done it, and I've done it for someone else.

Anyways, look thru your msg history and see exactly what was promised and we can see the details from there.
Title: Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: robert_namo on October 27, 2011, 12:04:13 am
People like this make me think of people that drink liquor and always try to get a discount.
Title: Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: Uumdi on October 27, 2011, 12:35:48 am
Yeah that's bush league, man.  Hope he comes through for you.
Title: Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: sF_Guardian on October 27, 2011, 02:16:19 am
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*sry admins I wrongly started the same topic in Event board*

the whole process is like this:
yesterday I reached lv31 and I started a thread to sell my loompoint in need of some gold

after a while a guy PMed me and told me he'd pay me 450 if I heirloom a hourglass for him (for the time being I can't point out his ID)

"that's a large sum of money"I thought.  then I accepted his offer and retired. I put the +1 hand armor on the market and noticed him to receive the cargo

but today when I logged in to check whether I've got the payment, I only found a PM to tell me that he'll buy my +1 gear "but nor for 450k"(I'm pretty sure he meant 'not' not 'nor' maybe a spellinmistake), so I feel that I was extorted by him

so I'm in panic now and dunno to whom to turn for help

guys what should I do in such a worrying situation? any suggestions?


He was willing to pay 450 and u thought its a high amounth of money, you accepted.
What do u complain about ?
Title: Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: sF_Zorro on October 27, 2011, 02:17:23 am

He was willing to pay 450 what do u complain ?
+1 ^^
Title: Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: sF_Zorro on October 27, 2011, 02:18:40 am
so sell it for 450 gold
Title: Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: sF_Guardian on October 27, 2011, 02:21:41 am
Actually you have accepted the trade so you should really stay at ur word and sell him the gloves  Not_so_new .....
Title: Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: sF_Zorro on October 27, 2011, 02:26:12 am
that's a deal, I need to know what you wanna loom in order to put the trade on the market
Title: Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: joespose on October 27, 2011, 02:30:28 am
You still have the +1 gauntlets. they fetch a fair price these days anyway so someone would probably buy it. i just got someone to loom some regular gauntlets to +1 recently and i paid him 420k for it
Title: Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: Patricia on October 27, 2011, 02:56:51 am
Hey look, two 22nd trying to get the guy to sell the gloves for 450 gold.

Sounds legit.
Title: Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: Wookimonsta on October 27, 2011, 09:48:29 am
3 weeks ago i got a loom point for 300k
Title: Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: Vibe on October 27, 2011, 09:49:34 am
I bought one for 100k in the early days.
Title: Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: sF_Guardian on October 27, 2011, 05:02:04 pm
I just wanna make clear that Zorro did nthin wrong, he did his offer and the guy thought a wrong thingy, its not Zorro`s fault !
Title: Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: Patricia on October 28, 2011, 01:28:12 am
I just wanna make clear that Zorro did nthin wrong, he did his offer and the guy thought a wrong thingy, its not Zorro`s fault !


Cry about it.

Good to know the 22nd are stupid shits.
Title: Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: cmp on October 28, 2011, 01:33:51 am
Sounds like a scam. Better clear this up fast or ban incoming.
Title: Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: Leesin on October 28, 2011, 01:46:42 am
Never really liked the 22nd as a clan ever since I played PW where some retarded little prepubescent kid named Whorequin or something ( cant rememebr the real spelling ), abused the rules on their own server, to grief me for no reason, then banned me when I fought back against him. Not that I have any problem with any of the other members, just stating that's the kind of people they let have admin powers on their servers, I doubt they give a fuck if someone scammed the OP.
Title: Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: Xant on October 28, 2011, 01:49:42 am
Never really liked the 22nd as a clan ever since I played PW where some retarded little prepubescent kid named Whorequin or something ( cant rememebr the real spelling ), abused the rules on their own server, to grief me for no reason, then banned me when I fought back against him. Not that I have any problem with any of the other members, just stating that's the kind of people they let have admin powers on their servers, I doubt they give a fuck if someone scammed the OP.

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Title: Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: Overdriven on October 28, 2011, 02:09:16 am
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Wow :|

Just sell the gauntlets to someone else Not_So_New_Player. Someone will buy it for a decent amount. These guys are a bit ridiculous.
Title: Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: Turkhammer on October 28, 2011, 03:09:13 am
Or this is life and thats what you get for making such deals without collateral...

Money first.
Buy/sell to people you know/trust.

I dont see why an -admin- should do anything about it. So the guy messed with you and now is offering a lower price. Well sell the item to someone else (via marketplace or relative forum) instead... or cut your losses and get what you can from him while warning others of his details so that he is shunned by the community...

But honestly I dont see why some "High Authority" should intervene. I dont see anywhere in the rules "Be honorable and dont mess with gullible people"...

Because it's in all of our interests to keep the system honest and above board.  That's why market regulators came into existence.
Title: Re: it seems that I was extorted, guys I need some help
Post by: Siiem on October 30, 2011, 02:49:43 pm
If any of the 22nd members tried to scam somebody I will personally have them banned.

Maybe there was just a mistake here somewhere?