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Title: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Dioxete on October 21, 2011, 10:02:18 pm
Did you do something about this stuff? It's rly weird.
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Remy on October 21, 2011, 10:33:47 pm
I think it just happens.

Almost every day I have arrows go through enemies or hit box "lag" wherein I shoot behind someone and see it dmg them.  :wink:
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Rebelyell on October 22, 2011, 11:02:41 am
agree 2h overhead is so laggy now
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Templar_Ratigan on October 22, 2011, 11:52:42 am
Ive noticed that in the mornings I hardly ever get any problems, but the evenings are fast becoming the worst time for me to play.

Random freezes and laggy animations just result in frustration, it's probably something to do with more people being on a night.
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Kryser on October 22, 2011, 11:54:16 am
Overheads on 1her's have been fucked up for a couple months now, 2hed is now feeling the ghost misses now as well.

OVERHEADS PLZ FIX
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Templar_Ratigan on October 22, 2011, 11:55:45 am
Oh I forgot about getting shot by arrows that missed by miles.
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Prpavi on October 22, 2011, 01:54:24 pm
old news, they deny and dont seem care...

Quote from: cmpxchg8b on September 21, 2011, 05:40:04 am
Seriously... what.
Two things were changed in the latest major patch:
1) animation threshold for hitting teammates (i.e. hitting teammates is easier)
2) animation threshold for hitting objects (i.e. hitting objects is easier)
No change whatsoever was made to hitboxes or anything related to regular combat.

The power of placebo.

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,16343.0.html
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Gnjus on October 22, 2011, 02:22:55 pm
Quote from: Prpavi on October 22, 2011, 01:54:24 pm
old news, they deny and dont seem care...

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,16343.0.html

You of all should remember, Prps....what was it like....January ? (after that big New Year's Patch) when i said this exact line:

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Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Prpavi on October 22, 2011, 03:23:02 pm
ye exactly, u stopped playing your 2h mauler cuz overheads werent working properly.

but now its even worse,everytime around strat time, i feel due to server lag mostly, everything feels like im walking in mud and the sweetspot is nowhere to be found for me, i glance miss and cant block, dunno if thats my isp's fault, i called them and checked the speeds, its all fine, its not hardware lag since i got a new rig, so i guess its the servers.
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Dioxete on October 22, 2011, 03:37:56 pm
the last days i'm having better ping than ever, around 99 all the time, when i used to have 120 ping. Despite of better ping I'm having this massive issues with dying with delay, hits that land 1 second after, blocks that make the sound of blocking but you die, and many weird stuff. I have notice this 2 or 3 days ago. I'm not talking about the historical mess up with the hitboxes, now it's pretty worst.
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: dado on October 22, 2011, 05:34:59 pm
yea awesome hitboxes(FIX THEM FFS) !!! and lovely 180 degrees swings ! i mean, WHO THE FUCK SWING WEAPONS  FOR 180 DEGREES ???
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Dioxete on October 22, 2011, 05:54:06 pm
Quote from: dado on October 22, 2011, 05:34:59 pm
yea awesome hitboxes(FIX THEM FFS) !!! and lovely 180 degrees swings ! i mean, WHO THE FUCK SWING WEAPONS  FOR 180 DEGREES ???

Yah this seems rly retarded. I don't know why this bad idea continue implemented.
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on October 22, 2011, 11:11:53 pm
My theory regarding these threads is:

Some days are just like that.
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Dioxete on October 23, 2011, 02:23:23 am
Some days...
This is going on since 4 days, is not the same as allways, and is definetly positional lag + strange things. I kill many guys beyond my reach, hits go through enemys to kill allies. Blocks don't work properly. Hits that start as a sideswing end as an overhead... I don't know, this never happened to me before. It's totally annoying.
As I asked this happens to many EU_1 players.
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Kryser on October 23, 2011, 03:28:50 am
this mod would suck less if they just fixed the swing through Bullshit and hitboxes already
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on October 23, 2011, 07:00:38 am
180 degree arc is stupid. It is seriously making 2h out pace 1h. Short slash on 1h doesn't have the same kind of idiotic turn striking arc of a flamburg. The result is that hilt slashing wankary can out pace the fastest strike (according to stats) in the game. And given how fast block recovers after a strike dueling a 2h with a 1h is a bore.

WPF needs to have a much bigger effect on turnslashingwankspasms. At least then only the ninjas will be able to pull off the spasticretardedstupidwankspasm spin slashing. My 2h tank with 30str can spinhittlerslash with the best of and he is wearing piles of plate, its just obscene and shouldn't be allowed, I disgust myself.
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Lanic0r on October 23, 2011, 08:17:12 am
It lags on public or duel?
Lags when 100 people on or even with 10?
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Prpavi on October 23, 2011, 11:00:01 am
it lags on public, duel is much better, yesterday (well technically today) 3am 60/70 people on the server (EU 1) things were running smoothly i could feint, block properly etc. any my ping was around 35/40 in daytime my ping is 65/70 still should be good but its not.
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Dioxete on October 23, 2011, 12:35:13 pm
As i said before, i'm having better ping than ever this week, but seems that doesn't matter at all. This night with 58 players, the positional lag kept rocking on. sryously the overhead reach now is weird. And the dead delay kept on, too.
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Dioxete on November 02, 2011, 11:25:21 am
this weird stuff with hitboxes keeps going on, no fix?
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Skurwiwij on November 02, 2011, 12:52:42 pm
Getting shot in the chest when holding an overhead attack makes projectiles appear on the back or go trough the target. Random going trough was always present, but this is different.
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: sharker807 on November 02, 2011, 04:50:20 pm
it's all fucked up this mod, i don't play it anymore it's full of cheats including the admins, some times i can kill loads the next round none, it's all fixed time to move on and also i can't stand the sad little shits that play it 24/7 with no jobs
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Meow on November 02, 2011, 04:53:44 pm
u mad bro?  :(
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Zisa on November 02, 2011, 04:54:11 pm
Quote from: sharker807 on November 02, 2011, 04:50:20 pm
it's all fucked up this mod, i don't play it anymore it's full of cheats including the admins, some times i can kill loads the next round none, it's all fixed time to move on and also i can't stand the sad little shits that play it 24/7 with no jobs
We shall miss you dearly.
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Lizard_man on November 02, 2011, 05:05:45 pm
Plus, passing through people needs to be fixed, people have passed into my body and managed to hit me, it's rediculous...
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Tzar on November 02, 2011, 05:06:18 pm
Jesus just give it some time im sure you will get used to it.....
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Dioxete on November 02, 2011, 05:48:28 pm
It's not about time,  it's fucking boring. I was playing 2-6 hours per day. Now I play less than an hour.

And if it's about time, this issue/new style is happening since 2 weeks, i think 2 weeks is enough.
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Dioxete on November 05, 2011, 11:43:48 am
Still the same. Fix plx.
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Prpavi on November 05, 2011, 12:10:14 pm
go archer like i did.

fixed
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Lysander on November 05, 2011, 12:14:05 pm
Hitboxes feel wrong everyday I'm playing.
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Xant on November 05, 2011, 12:22:27 pm
Quote from: Lizard_man on November 02, 2011, 05:05:45 pm
Plus, passing through people needs to be fixed, people have passed into my body and managed to hit me, it's rediculous...

I doubt that'll get fixed before M&B 2 comes out. If even then.
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Dioxete on November 05, 2011, 02:21:45 pm
Quote from: Prpavi on November 05, 2011, 12:10:14 pm
go archer like i did.

fixed

Some archers told me that the positional lag piss them off too. Their arrows go trough the bodys without damage when the victim do overhead.
Sryously, crpg now is boring. I remember when i had to wait to enter EU_1 now I have always slot :/ pls fix it, the mod is loosing lots of players.
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Cup1d on November 05, 2011, 02:31:19 pm
meh, it's even worse for shooting Prpavi.

As for me, it was started with implementation of game menu (c - button). Constant teleporting of a target, jelly moving, instant hits from shielders. Sometimes it's better to play on NA servers with 150+ ping than on EU with 40+.
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Leshma on November 05, 2011, 04:34:26 pm
This game has horrible net code. I didn't realize how bad it really is until I tried to play on AUS server with 350. Sure, having 350 ping is in most games unplayable because everything is late but in Warband is completely broken. Swings turn into stabs, stabs into overhead, everything is simply lulz with such high ping.

I've used to play some action games on Korean servers with 350 ping and it was never this bad.

And hitboxes are something you need to get used to. One thing is certain, don't aim based on what you see, aim based on experience...
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Dioxete on November 05, 2011, 05:23:50 pm
Quote from: Leshma on November 05, 2011, 04:34:26 pm
One thing is certain, don't aim based on what you see, aim based on experience...

Something is wrong with this mod then xD
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Prpavi on November 05, 2011, 08:43:06 pm
they want us all to go ranged havent u figured it out already?

join the my old friendside
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Leshma on November 05, 2011, 09:58:57 pm
Quote from: Dioxete on November 05, 2011, 05:23:50 pm
Something is wrong with this mod then xD

It took you a while to figure that out...
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 05, 2011, 11:44:18 pm
Quote from: Prpavi on November 05, 2011, 08:43:06 pm
they want us all to go ranged havent u figured it out already?

join the my old friendside

Archers get effected too.

You would complain about us a lot more if our arrows did not pass through targets as often. Then the real rage would roll in.
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Leshma on November 06, 2011, 01:06:41 am
Quote from: Tears_of_Destiny on November 05, 2011, 11:44:18 pm
Archers get effected too.

You would complain about us a lot more if our arrows did not pass through targets as often. Then the real rage would roll in.

Who cares, you still got 33 arrows left and same number of oportunities. When that happens to a melee fighter it might be his last move.

Don't... ever... try... to... compare melee to archery. Ever again!
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 06, 2011, 01:14:55 am
Quote from: Leshma on November 06, 2011, 01:06:41 am
Who cares, you still got 33 arrows left and same number of oportunities. When that happens to a melee fighter it might be his last move.

Don't... ever... try... to... compare melee to archery. Ever again!

Feels good to be on top.

Anywho, my point is, the hit boxes do not encourage archery over melee, both get weird shit from time to time.
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Dioxete on November 13, 2011, 12:03:33 pm
up
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Haze_The_Hobo on November 23, 2011, 07:21:59 pm
I've been constantly getting glances with direct hits WITH PIERCE WEAPONS, lordly plated guys are getting impossible to kill with these server or lag issues dunno what is this about.

Funniest thing happened to me just few rounds back, i walk towards archer with my weapon loaded, he should start the wierd shake thing so can't shoot, well guess what I GOT THE SHAKE AND ARCHER WAS FREE TO ROLL!

First i had military pick, well it glanced 3 times in a row + it glanced to fking leather armor...
Second i had a steel pick, guess what, it glanced 3 times in a row..

Third i got swinged two times with overhead swing by 2h, it missed me and damaged me when i was hitting enemy when the enemys weapon was still RISING from the overhead..  :evil:

I'm not alone with these problems, i've heard many complains + my irl friends from Pantheon say this started to happen to them too just week back.

Please fix these issues!  :?
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: TucKMuncK on November 23, 2011, 08:26:20 pm
Prolly loomed armor and bad speed bonus for you, should have used up attack. Or just learn to control your swings to get some speed bonus to your attacks.
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Gurnisson on November 23, 2011, 08:37:53 pm
Quote from: Leshma on November 05, 2011, 04:34:26 pm
Swings turn into stabs, stabs into overhead, everything is simply lulz with such high ping.

I love how that happens with my 50-60 ping too. Wrong blocks showing, wrong attacking direction showing, players teleporting and only being able to see the far end of an attacking animation. Then again, I do have shit internet and bad computer. :lol:
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: paavi on November 26, 2011, 10:54:33 am
Well i have a good comp and good internet, but still im getting hit thru blocks and thru shield alot, and not to mention when im doing swing it turns out as a overhead, oh and hitting thru enemy and hit the own guy behind him? Mayby this isnt problkem with crpg but a problem with warband? Would still be really nice to get some fixes to these :/ Cuz i just love the game!
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Druss on November 28, 2011, 12:25:04 am
I think you just have to get used to it, i dont think it was better before because a lot of ppl was swinging through walls (these hitboxes were weird too) and now you can't (except maybe pikes/long spears).

Yes the right swing on every weapon starts behind you and i've seen a lot of glances on the teammate behind. The left swing on 2h/1h is almost instant.. the 2h poke/overhead lingers.. ghost reach on some weapons.. glance on every wall/people that is a lil bit close.

Get used to it.. i started to play defensive and I wait for good opportunities. my solution is to block 1-2 hits in a row most of the times. Of course i still glance on walls, still getting hit by an ended 2h overhead but now that you know all these "bugs" just watch out for them, play more defensive and you'll prolly rage less.

That is my solution i found to this and it works really well for me. I stopped playing aggresive and when i do, I die.

Practicing your block helps if you want to play defensive ;)
Title: Re: Hitboxes feels wrong today
Post by: Vexus on November 28, 2011, 12:37:10 am
My problem lately is fighting 1 v 1 vs an enemy I start blocking fine the attacks then out of a sudden they release an attack so fast you get barely anytime to respond and it's so unrealistic it makes me rage quit most of the times.

Don't know if it's because of the ping (Doubt it) but it's happening lately to me and never happened before.