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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: EyeBeat on February 05, 2011, 07:31:44 pm

Title: Make it so people can not multibox
Post by: EyeBeat on February 05, 2011, 07:31:44 pm
I have a had a problem on a server where someone can play and if they die fast enough they can logon with a different character and participate in that battle.  This is horrible for servers with low population.  Totally messes up the balance.

Please shorten the time it lets people join the battle to 15 seconds.
Title: Re: Make it so people can not multibox
Post by: Tai Feng on February 05, 2011, 08:11:58 pm
No.

It's fine as it is, especially when I need to change my equipment.


Someone joining late disrupting the balance? I mean, come on. Was it Rambo?
Title: Re: Make it so people can not multibox
Post by: Joxer on February 05, 2011, 08:28:07 pm
I guess you missed the point. Someone who was already killed in that very same battle can switch to alt toon and join in. Hope this gets fixed asap. You could do a suicide lance attack into enemy straight from spawn and then switch to your inf alt and join in.
Title: Re: Make it so people can not multibox
Post by: Tai Feng on February 05, 2011, 08:38:34 pm
I guess you missed the point. Someone who was already killed in that very same battle can switch to alt toon and join in. Hope this gets fixed asap. You could do a suicide lance attack into enemy straight from spawn and then switch to your inf alt and join in.

I said no to his "fix suggestion".

And to be honest, people switching to alts to continue playing does not trouble me. They could as well just login to different server.
As for "suicide attack straight from spawn", this can already be solved by players with "look left and right before crossing the street". Basic daily survival guide.
Title: Re: Make it so people can not multibox
Post by: Dexxtaa on February 05, 2011, 09:16:57 pm
No.

It's fine as it is, especially when I need to change my equipment.


Someone joining late disrupting the balance? I mean, come on. Was it Rambo?

lol Good response. Covers everything I was going to say, with humor.
Title: Re: Make it so people can not multibox
Post by: Sambeer on February 05, 2011, 09:44:30 pm
if im right in thinking its 1 min to spawn atm.... then dont you think 15 seks is a bit of a leap ... Especially if its a map u needed to download, i think 35-40 secs would be a bit more appropriate...

tho to be honest i spend most of my time on servers with 10-30 people and i have never seen anyone do this... but then maybe i wasent paying attention
Title: Re: Make it so people can not multibox
Post by: Tai Feng on February 05, 2011, 10:25:46 pm
if im right in thinking its 1 min to spawn atm.... then dont you think 15 seks is a bit of a leap ... Especially if its a map u needed to download, i think 35-40 secs would be a bit more appropriate...

tho to be honest i spend most of my time on servers with 10-30 people and i have never seen anyone do this... but then maybe i wasent paying attention

I quite enjoy the fact that I can join a server and have high chance of starting to play right now, instead of missing the 15-sec window during which I may not even be able to change equipment.
Title: Re: Make it so people can not multibox
Post by: Rumblood on February 06, 2011, 04:10:30 am
I dunno, I often apologize in chat to the guy I headshot across the map in the first 5 seconds of spawning  :o If he can make it back in on an alt, the more power to him. Just gives me the chance to kill him twice and he gets to play more than 10 seconds  :P
Title: Re: Make it so people can not multibox
Post by: Patricia on February 07, 2011, 03:34:23 pm
I just find having to fight the same character twice EVERY ROUNDS (Miley) pretty dumb.
Title: Re: Make it so people can not multibox
Post by: Welcome_To_Hell on February 07, 2011, 03:40:18 pm
Make it auto perma ban.
Title: Re: Make it so people can not multibox
Post by: ManOfWar on February 07, 2011, 05:20:14 pm
How many people actually do this?
Title: Re: Make it so people can not multibox
Post by: Dexxtaa on February 07, 2011, 10:18:57 pm
How many people actually do this?

I discovered it recently when I reconnected to a server. Figured it was probably illegal, and stopped.
Title: Re: Make it so people can not multibox
Post by: John on February 09, 2011, 07:03:01 am
I can't imagine how anyone could do enough damage in thirty seconds or so of the round start for this to be an issue.
Title: Re: Make it so people can not multibox
Post by: Neostralie on February 09, 2011, 03:03:07 pm
Notify this kind of behavior to the admins of the servers your are playing on.
Title: Re: Make it so people can not multibox
Post by: Garrus on February 09, 2011, 07:06:31 pm
If everybody knows the bug, then it is called feature:) use it if it hurts. I think its funny how hard they try to die :) I saw one guy doing that, but I won't name him
Title: Re: Make it so people can not multibox
Post by: Patricia on February 09, 2011, 07:09:45 pm
I can't imagine how anyone could do enough damage in thirty seconds or so of the round start for this to be an issue.

Miley for exemple, does a suicide rush with his one hit crush through barmace, then reconnect once dead to do it again on the now thinned out enemy numbers.
Title: Re: Make it so people can not multibox
Post by: Chasab on February 09, 2011, 07:20:30 pm
so they spawn, get to the other team, kill a bunch of people, die, disconnect, select the new character, reconnect all in under 60 seconds? all for the ultimate goal of going from 1x to 2x?

I'm calling BS till i see a youtube video of this legit happening.

Title: Re: Make it so people can not multibox
Post by: Balton on February 09, 2011, 07:43:32 pm
The only person I have ever encountered that does this has been Miley, who does it quite often. Regardless, just make it a perma ban for the offense, and the problem will be fixed. The one-minute spawn is an awesome change from the lesser time that it was in the past.
Title: Re: Make it so people can not multibox
Post by: WaltF4 on February 09, 2011, 08:02:39 pm
I left the 100 man NA server just to rejoin last night after I had spawned between walls on one of the new maps and was stuck. I only had a 1x multiplier at the time, so it made sense to me.
Title: Re: Make it so people can not multibox
Post by: Cyclopsided on February 11, 2011, 01:20:02 pm
Ahaha, I thought this thread was about multi boxing! oh was I wrong!
It is a thread about rejoining. Completely different thing. And I honestly don't care too much for the rejoiners, Lol they go to 1x & have all their gear damaged as a leaving penalty (unless i am mistaken). Why should I care? Let the idiots try to die.


But on another note, Multiboxing. Oh my god multiboxing.
And by multiboxxing i mean being logged in with the same character to two different servers, getting double exp. A lot of people do that.
I don't know if they can fix it. There are already counter measures that autokick the second character, but it doesn't work always.
Title: Re: Make it so people can not multibox
Post by: Chasab on February 11, 2011, 04:17:32 pm
But on another note, Multiboxing. Oh my god multiboxing.
And by multiboxxing i mean being logged in with the same character to two different servers, getting double exp. A lot of people do that.
I don't know if they can fix it. There are already counter measures that autokick the second character, but it doesn't work always.

thats actually not multiboxing either.

Multiboxing is playing multiple characters, on multiple computers on the same server using 1 mouse and 1 keyboard.

People did this alot in WoW with mage classes, they would have 5-10 mages and cast tthe same spell 5-10 at a time and insta kill everything.
Title: Re: Make it so people can not multibox
Post by: Mustang_Sweets on February 11, 2011, 04:50:18 pm
I don't find any of this as a problem at all, I mean, think of it this way. You killed one of their team and a new person just came into the server. It wouldn't be anymore different then that. One enemy is dead and a new challenger appeared....ooooo ahhhh....

Plus, this at the moment shouldnt resort in ban or kick of any kind for they haven't approached it as as rule yet. Therefore no rule, nothing broken. No crime committed.

P.S. If this rejoining is such a horrible problem, god forbid you play in siege. People in siege die and come back all the time,(they all must be hackers)
Title: Re: Make it so people can not multibox
Post by: AdNecrias on February 11, 2011, 05:25:39 pm
thats actually not multiboxing either.

Multiboxing is playing multiple characters, on multiple computers on the same server using 1 mouse and 1 keyboard.

People did this alot in WoW with mage

Imagine the M&B application! Archer Volleys, Phalanxes, cavalry charges!
Title: Re: Make it so people can not multibox
Post by: Mustang_Sweets on February 11, 2011, 05:47:43 pm
Imagine the M&B application! Archer Volleys, Phalanxes, cavalry charges!

This is if and only IF  your computer can handle that much of this game going at once. Honestly you'd need probably five apps going at once for any of these to be useful at all, and then think of how horrible your ping would be trying to suck up all that info at once. Basically, I highly doubt anyone in crpg has the money/time to bother with that, and if they do? Then well, let the dying alone virgin waste his life doing so, so he may at least find some joy in his pathetic waste of life and money.
Title: Re: Make it so people can not multibox
Post by: Keshian on February 11, 2011, 05:59:38 pm
If they rejoin who is to say they will even be on the same team as their last character?
Title: Re: Make it so people can not multibox
Post by: Rumblood on February 12, 2011, 01:45:22 am
thats actually not multiboxing either.

Multiboxing is playing multiple characters, on multiple computers on the same server using 1 mouse and 1 keyboard.

People did this alot in WoW with mage classes, they would have 5-10 mages and cast tthe same spell 5-10 at a time and insta kill everything.

Screw WoW and your endless references to things it stole! Everquest was the first game where 5 Wizards could use a nuke to kill a raid level encounter that normally required 40 players to defeat.
Title: Re: Make it so people can not multibox
Post by: Trael on February 13, 2011, 08:21:25 pm
Miley for exemple, does a suicide rush with his one hit crush through barmace, then reconnect once dead to do it again on the now thinned out enemy numbers.

Have i kind of missed something, becouse atleast on european servers autobalance works so that its COMPLETELY RANDOM to what team you end after joining, no matter what you choose. (well not completely completely random, but frow view of player totally random "got insta autoplaced on team with 10 players more that other team...")

And what comes to delay... yeah 15seconds... and i cant play ever on first round & some of maps end up being completely unplayable. When round starts i have terrible lags for about 30 seconds, causing game to be completely unplayable, so in smaller maps i have to wait in inventory selection screen for that 30 seconds before spawning or else someone has killed me BEFORE game even tells me THAT ROUND STARTED and lets me move.

So really, if someone is doing that they are gaining one uneffective (becouse it has to be so fast) suidice run with big effort every round and while doing it they randomize their team (to most likely loosing team if autobalance is working at all...) so its not like they are getting any real benefit or so compared to need to time things and click menus. (random team and constant rejoining causes their multipliers to stay at 1x, so no expensive armors forever or so)

Atleast not enough to cause need for change that would mess up quite completely change of playing from multiple proper players not using that thing.

so as someone who does not care to buy new computer just becouse i get some lagginess in start of rounds, i would say thank you for shutting up about this and just banning or something of those players if nessessary.