Any chance you could do this on EU_3 too at some point? :D
*Oh it does get better further into the video, still very different duelling than in EU_3. Less fancy attack tricks, mostly just a lot of blocking and quick attacks.There are a few NA duelists who have really fun dueling styles (Ryden, Cyranule, and a few others come to mind). I just find focusing on blocking and cautious footwork (with the occasional chamber) to be the most effective (if boring) style.
And yeah ur playing styles is very simple, block and hit and a little bit of footwork, but not much. U dont rly do any tricks :/.It's better to let the other guy do the dancing and feinting. That makes him more likely to make a mistake. So long as you are careful, you can just block everything your opponent throws at you (feints aren't terribly effective at medium speed), and you can use the inevitable mistakes people make when playing risky to wear him down over time.
It's better to let the other guy do the dancing and feinting. That makes him more likely to make a mistake. If you make sure to keep in range, you can just block everything your opponent throws at you (feints aren't terribly effective at medium speed), and you can use the inevitable mistakes people make when playing risky to wear him down over time.
He is also more likely to hit u, because of the tricks and the feints. ( dont rly wanna explain this more detailed)There is literally nothing you can do at medium speed that will reliably let you hit somebody who is focused on blocking. The animations are just too slow.
There is literally nothing you can do at medium speed that will reliably let you hit somebody who is focused on blocking. The animations are just too slow.The matches in battle must take hours if everyone has that mentality.
It's better to let the other guy do the dancing and feinting. That makes him more likely to make a mistake. So long as you are careful, you can just block everything your opponent throws at you (feints aren't terribly effective at medium speed), and you can use the inevitable mistakes people make when playing risky to wear him down over time.
Im not impressed with the skill level on na, i rly do not hope that is some of your best players. And yeah ur playing styles is very simple, block and hit and a little bit of footwork, but not much. U dont rly do any tricks :/.
To be honest, you're not that impressive yourself. Also if you want to see tricks, go watch fancy equestrian sports with epic trotting and some lean galloping! That's the shit. 8-)
And you mostly copy Phyrex anyway, occasionally I see some of my signature moves thrown in there as well. :lol:
Well, can´t really give him shit for that now can you? Most 2htryfail to copy Phyrex :|
It's not like there's anything else to invent... copy & practice on it.
Not a bad thing.. Phyrex himself said that copying is the best thing you can do at first. Stealing the good tricks for everyone and making it into your own style in the end is what you should do.
There is literally nothing you can do at medium speed that will reliably let you hit somebody who is focused on blocking. The animations are just too slow.
He's on almost every day, GTX. :wink:
I was just criticizing your comment, it's easy to judge people.(click to show/hide)
He's on almost every day, GTX. :wink:
I was just criticizing your comment, it's easy to judge people.(click to show/hide)
Yeah but if u havent noticed there is more than 1 server :wink:.
Yes... But duels are for training also amrite? In battle you need to chop through people fast in order to be effective, which means that knowing good feints and footwork is essential since otherwise you'd get stuck on the good guys.In battle I generally try to focus on stabbing people in the back, or hitting them when they are preoccupied with a teammate. I find getting stuck in a duel is usually a bad idea - you could get bumped by cav, shot by enemy archers, or just ganged up on by enemy reinforcements.
In battle I generally try to focus on stabbing people in the back, or hitting them when they are preoccupied with a teammate. I find getting stuck in a duel is usually a bad idea - you could get bumped by cav, shot by enemy archers, or just ganged up on by enemy reinforcements.
Dude ur human, not a bot. U will fail at some point, and if ur focused at blocking, the feinter shouldent rly have many problems blocking ur poor offensive attacks.
Bjorn pull yourself together jezz :rolleyes:, what's up with the hostile behavior? I rarely see phyrex on.
Too muchskillautoblocking, NA couldn't possibly handle it :twisted:
trolololo...lololo...
Seriously though, love yer vids and would be nice to see you come by sometime^^
I love to see how NA fails at clicking right mouse button :twisted:
Better to burn out than to fade away
If you can't win with style, you might aswell not win at all.
see what you've done ripperx
In battle I generally try to focus on stabbing people in the back, or hitting them when they are preoccupied with a teammate. I find getting stuck in a duel is usually a bad idea - you could get bumped by cav, shot by enemy archers, or just ganged up on by enemy reinforcements.
If you can't win with style, you might aswell not win at all.Really? From a ninja? You're a shame to your kind. Well, you would be if your kind had any sense of shame
As someone (the only player?) that has played 7+ months on both EU and NA, I will share with you my observation on the fundamental differences between NA and EU. I accept that this is a dated evaluation (I have been back in EU for several months), none the less it appears to still apply.
With regards to melee, NA has some very good players, as good as anybody in EU, but the servers are full of poor players who crutch on str. Perhaps because of the dominance of balanced or agi-balanced builds, the average skill level on EU is far higher. On NA servers as a skilled duelist you will encounter only a handful of people who are actually a challenge, whereas on EU every other fight will be a challenge.
This applies equally to ranged, as was demonstrated in last strat. EU ranged groups consistently tore apart their NA counterparts. It is not a question of higher individual skill as such, simply that there are more good EU players who have been playing longer.
Cav standard on NA was much lower than EU. Having learned to lance from Oberyn and Assarhaddon in the early days of EU, it was 6 months or so before any NA cav posed a serious threat, and a gain only a handful of players.
I do not necessarily think that it is the case that EU is a more developed meta-game. This would not explain the differing paths the communities have taken. EU never saw throwing dominance the way NA did, nor did it go through a phase of full str builds. I think it is rather a difference in gaming mentality between a community that is largely made up of players from the same country and a community of players from all over Europe. There will inevitably be some kinds of correlation, and on the EU you are constantly being tested by different and varied playstyles of all skill levels. On NA it just seems more homogeneous.
I do not consider any of this as gospel. Just my 2p, for what its worth.
Also, ManOfWar could go toe to toe with anybody in EU very comfortably (With the possible exception of Chimp. NA, think crymoar with a katana.)
Duelling multiple opponents or one good one. My favourite things in cRPG. Or a perfectly executed ambush.
If you can't win with style, you might aswell not win at all.
If you can't win with style,youmight aswell not win at all.switch to Great Hammer.
Also, ManOfWar could go toe to toe with anybody in EU very comfortably (With the possible exception of Chimp. NA, think crymoar with a katana.)
As someone (the only player?) that has played 7+ months on both EU and NA, I will share with you my observation on the fundamental differences between NA and EU. I accept that this is a dated evaluation (I have been back in EU for several months), none the less it appears to still apply.
With regards to melee, NA has some very good players, as good as anybody in EU, but the servers are full of poor players who crutch on str. Perhaps because of the dominance of balanced or agi-balanced builds, the average skill level on EU is far higher. On NA servers as a skilled duelist you will encounter only a handful of people who are actually a challenge, whereas on EU every other fight will be a challenge.
This applies equally to ranged, as was demonstrated in last strat. EU ranged groups consistently tore apart their NA counterparts. It is not a question of higher individual skill as such, simply that there are more good EU players who have been playing longer.
Cav standard on NA was much lower than EU. Having learned to lance from Oberyn and Assarhaddon in the early days of EU, it was 6 months or so before any NA cav posed a serious threat, and a gain only a handful of players.
I do not necessarily think that it is the case that EU is a more developed meta-game. This would not explain the differing paths the communities have taken. EU never saw throwing dominance the way NA did, nor did it go through a phase of full str builds. I think it is rather a difference in gaming mentality between a community that is largely made up of players from the same country and a community of players from all over Europe. There will inevitably be some kinds of correlation, and on the EU you are constantly being tested by different and varied playstyles of all skill levels. On NA it just seems more homogeneous.
I do not consider any of this as gospel. Just my 2p, for what its worth.
Also, ManOfWar could go toe to toe with anybody in EU very comfortably (With the possible exception of Chimp. NA, think crymoar with a katana.)
Really? From a ninja? You're a shame to your kind. Well, you would be if your kind had any sense of shameI don't understand what you mean. Maybe we have a different sense of what is stylish?
I don't understand what you mean. Maybe we have a different sense of what is stylish?Since when do ninjas care more about style than completing the objective? Besides, you can always lie about how it was accomplished if no one can prove you wrong
The reason why EU duel servers seem to have more skilled duelists is because... they do...
Funny what happens when there is two to three times as much EU as NA.
I bet they have more skilled X then we do too.
I bet they have more skilled X then we do too.
but we have Palestinians and Village Elders
Pebblepusher
I don't understand what you mean. Maybe we have a different sense of what is stylish?
if this is NA skill ?
is not even 50% of what i see in EU
and yet euro clans got stomped in last round of strategus, funny how that works.
Was that necessary, Vicious?Probably. :D
:/
Was that necessary, Vicious?
:/
( Everybody already knows who has more skilled players...)
Why do you people need to turn this into another NA vs EU thread? ( Everybody already knows who has more skilled players...)
Anyway Ripper is a nice guy not a elitist jerk like the most of us so he gives compliments to players much more easily. Also it would be great if you could sometimes record in EU aswell.
yeah at list this time we can see duels that are worth 10min of my life.
It's funny cause you're pretty bad at duelling.
if this is NA skill ?
is not even 50% of what i see in EU
ps: also ripper seams not being good enought for judge skill of players (no dis-respect)
Ninja have a style? sorry i one shoot ninja they not give me time for see if they have a style 8-(
Im not impressed with the skill level on na, i rly do not hope that is some of your best players. And yeah ur playing styles is very simple, block and hit and a little bit of footwork, but not much. U dont rly do any tricks :/.GTX, i like you man, but you talk so much fucking shit on NA players and it gets annoying, and btw I don't work well under pressure but yeah this isn't half of the NA pros in this vid, (and what does it matter if we don't do tricks) Some of them are:
Signature worthy Karma. Also, GTX, Dezilagel etc, Saul knows what he's talking. He's a native player as well as cRPG, he could most likely best every single player in this game in a first to 10 IMO, given they had the same ping.
And they say that we in the states are the egotistical self-centered ones.
Shameful display JuniorScrambler! You should stick to your crossbow!
yeah well you should stick to being a provocative Asian girl on the forums and stop calling people out!!!
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and maybe i let him win huh?
maybe i felt like he needed a win against a top tier player.
BAM
now i come off as the nice guy, your just a jealous guy
we in the states are the egotistical self-centered.
Signature worthy Karma. Also, GTX, Dezilagel etc, Saul knows what he's talking. He's a native player as well as cRPG, he could most likely best every single player in this game in a first to 10 IMO, given they had the same ping.
And EU players will be there to remind everyone how much better they are than NA players each and every time NA players are featured in something, ESPECIALLY when it's something that has nothing to do with them.
And they say that we in the states are the egotistical self-centered ones.
I wouldn't go as far as to say that EU players do that, when it's only GTX.
We will never admit that Vicious is European! Never!
Signature worthy Karma. Also, GTX, Dezilagel etc, Saul knows what he's talking. He's a native player as well as cRPG, he could most likely best every single player in this game in a first to 10 IMO, given they had the same ping.
Well for one thing, NA players are much more respectable than EU players. We're so caught up in our e-peen mania that we disregard anyone who doesn't partake in the competition.True.
I read somewhere in the Chaos thread that some of you even go out drinking together.
Nah, just two specific Aus players, they were freaks.
Some of us actually do - and it turns out internet people can be cool real life people as well.
Our EU buddies are of course always invited to join us :D
I gotta meet up with you guys some day! Though it will take most of my cunning to get to New York... No... All my cunning....
Yall have NOTHIN on dem AUS players! :mrgreen:
I gotta meet up with you guys some day! Though it will take most of my cunning to get to New York... No... All my cunning....
Chimp remains the best damn duelist there is, as far as I'm concerned.
Dudeeee, i keep tellin you. The Chinese are the best gamers in every gaming genre (except FPS).
They are incredibly skilled in cRPG afaik.
And your parent's money.
You have your own car and yet you have to tell your parents where you're going? And they can tell you not to go?
You have your own car and yet you have to tell your parents where you're going? And they can tell you not to go?
Well I am 18 years old senior in High School and just got my unrestricted license. My parents are pretty cool but they do not let me do whatever I damn well please
You're 18... you're allowed to do what you damn well please.
It is one thing to say that, and another to have parents who say "OK you are right, we are throwing you out of the house then, our roof our rules."
Most folk tend to want to get thrown out only after they finish High School.
You shut up. I have my own car and can pay the damn toll for the bridge :D
and dynamike I did not tell them that I made up a bad cover story which fucked everything up :/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqulDh9jOmk#t=08m03s
So this duel is pretty much the cream of the crop of NA fighting eachother? Manowar and Saulcanner? Daayuuumn thats some boring shit. Your best blocker got killed by a regular sideswing. Very different from a let's say Phyrex versus Atze fight, or whoever can be considered top twohanders. I can't help getting the impression that you NA warriors are less skilled.
Time for that EU video RipperX.
Why do people keep thinking it is the cream of the crop? RipperX says everyone is a super good player... or a celebrity.
GTX, i like you man, but you talk so much fucking shit on NA players and it gets annoying, and btw I don't work well under pressure but yeah this isn't half of the NA pros in this vid, (and what does it matter if we don't do tricks) Some of them are:
Dan
Cyranule
BigSandwich
SaulCanner(best blocker i've ever seen)
Beeper
ManOfWar
Hahah, well granted, the beginning is.. they're both ONLY sideswinging.. but everyone makes mistakes, Teeth. And after a certain point feints and such become almost redundant, you're just impairing your own vision and your opponent is going to block you anyways... same with chambers, they open you up for attacks and they are very easy to block.. so it's only natural top vs top duels would look rather boring.Well, a top EU fight doesn't become a sideswing endurance match, they would both be going all out with weird tricks and probably won't be hit by a simple left swing. Although everyone does indeed make mistakes, hell I have even killed Phyrex once with 4 swings of which he blocked 1. Still chambers and feints are harder to block than regular swings.
Yes, Saul gets killed by a regular sideswing... what do EU top players get killed by? Super-special sideswings? :P
LET IT BE KNOWN THAT I JUST ENTERED THE NA DUEL SERVER AND SLAUGHTERED CYRANULE
Well judging by that video, SaulCanner doesn't come anywhere near EU's best blockers, but like.. it's a viddyo, they don't seem to be playing very seriouslyBoth me and ManO were pretty much bored to death after several minute-and-a-half duels, so we weren't exactly playing at our best for that fight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEq4D1tnshoI never knew Stimpy was Burrick, I always liked Stimpy.
That video is so much better in every single way.
LET IT BE KNOWN THAT I JUST ENTERED THE NA DUEL SERVER AND SLAUGHTERED CYRANULE
Both me and ManO were pretty much bored to death after several minute-and-a-half duels, so we weren't exactly playing at our best for that fight.Can someone post Rhade vs Leonidas?
(This is why native fastest duel is about a million times better than crpg duel. You almost never see a duel that lasts more than thirty seconds, and most end in under fifteen seconds)
let it be known that if cyranule says he killed me in the eu server right after he is lying
I got you back on the EU duel server, Chamber to a Castor
Go home Xant
Let it be known I have NEVER killed Cyranule on the duel server.
I have killed Cyranule!
with 100 ping difference
As a 2hander I poop all over Cyranule on NA, lololololool, nah, but I can beat him, but not poop on him.
Btw, what's with NA pings on EU servers? Cyranule had 180+, Rhyden had 200+... EU players on NA servers get anything from 100 to 150 usually.Superior EU technology.
Can someone post Rhade vs Leonidas?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q3zV4N99ZQ thar we go.
Quality duels there. A little bit too feinty but insane with fastest.
EDIT: Forgot Leonidas was a backpeddaler lol.
Btw, what's with NA pings on EU servers? Cyranule had 180+, Rhyden had 200+... EU players on NA servers get anything from 100 to 150 usually.Me and Cy have shit internet, he gets like 75-95 on NA, I get 85-110 on NA. Btw, Xant, quit being a mad nerd IRL.
Btw, Xant, quit being a mad nerd IRL.
Btw, what's with NA pings on EU servers? Cyranule had 180+, Rhyden had 200+... EU players on NA servers get anything from 100 to 150 usually.
visitors can't see pics , please register or loginI'm jk man, I love my EU friends.
Btw, what's with NA pings on EU servers? Cyranule had 180+, Rhyden had 200+... EU players on NA servers get anything from 100 to 150 usually.
Btw, what's with NA pings on EU servers? Cyranule had 180+, Rhyden had 200+... EU players on NA servers get anything from 100 to 150 usually.
chicago is east coast, you heard it here first folks
I was poking fun at the huge ping advantage east coasters get and how it favors them, not that Chicago was east coast.
While were on that though, Mid-West my ass. The east coast gets way better ping on the "central servers" than west coasters could ever hope for. They should have left that shit in Texas where we all got mediocre ping. God forbid you eastern cock nockers would have to play above 40 ping.
I beat Beeper a few times, Kaoklai 3 times in a row and Rhyden 3 times out of 10 duels! ON NA! 8-)I DONT WORK WELL UNDER PRESSURE XD, nah but gf's you mad nerd
With 150 ping.
Anyone down for some Duel footage today? Possibly either do a YouTube Vid or a Livestream? Got the day off so chillin.
As long as you pick some lovely music, naturally.
I demand to see some American cavalry or rather horse archery as well! :twisted:
I wish to see how my poor, poor cousins in the New World boom and zoom.
He's African.