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Title: xbowman after lvl 30
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on October 15, 2011, 01:41:06 am
so i stop retiring and now i have question what to choose:

i can go 15/27 so at lvl 32 i can have 5 ps 9 wm and 9 ath, then later at more lvl make some if

or i can stay 15/24 with 5ps 8ath and 8 wm, but i can have 5if at lvl 31, then i can take some riding, with horse i can take some point fast at start or run with empty horse somewhere to reload, or even find lance and kill some1?

so what you think is better choise?
Title: Re: xbowman after lvl 30
Post by: Malaclypse on October 15, 2011, 02:00:03 am
Since my primary sidearm was a 1hand, when I went to 31 and then to 32 I used the extra points staying 15/24 on shield up to 4 for strat then some IF. Really added versatility. Even with 0 prof I could get mad hoplite assists using a heavy lance w/ shield. Realistically a lot of battles aren't always going to have a ton of crossbows.
Title: Re: xbowman after lvl 30
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on October 15, 2011, 02:06:43 am
i think same - 8ath is enough for runing and with 8 wm(172 wpf at lvl 30) you can snipe very well, i think about some situations when you can make somethink different like riding or even 2 points in shield lol)

btw mounted xbowman need horse archery?
Title: Re: xbowman after lvl 30
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on October 15, 2011, 02:36:44 am
any other opinions?
Title: Re: xbowman after lvl 30
Post by: Panzerstyle on October 15, 2011, 02:42:17 am
I agree on staying 15/24 as we dont get more damage anyway and the aim is fine with 8 wm.

Not sure about shield skillpoints though but IF for sure. Maybe 1 point in shield.

I dont see any reason for wasting 3+ on riding though :)
Title: Re: xbowman after lvl 30
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on October 15, 2011, 03:01:27 am
look if u stay 15/24 , at lvl 33 i can have

Strength: 15
Agility: 24
Hit points: 60
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 5
Power Strike: 5
Shield: 0
Athletics: 8
Riding: 6
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 8
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 174
Throwing: 1


and with 15/27 only this:

Strength: 15
Agility: 27
Hit points: 56
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 3
Power Strike: 5
Shield: 0
Athletics: 9
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 9
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 183
Throwing: 1


what you think is better?
with 15/24 i cant take not only riding, can take something else,but dont know what) think riding is best)
Title: Re: xbowman after lvl 30
Post by: bonekuukkeli on October 15, 2011, 06:56:29 am
I played xbower with some horse variety in past and it was quite fun. You can fire arbalest from horseback, but need to dismount for reloading. 1h would work well with shield... I would pick 3 riding and 3 shield instead just 6 riding. Or forget about shield and take 3 horse archery and 3 riding for some fun. Unless you just want heavy horse for stationary sniping ofc. If its your final build, its good to have more things to do than just shoot around same old way.

My final build will be xbow / horse hybrid as well.
Title: Re: xbowman after lvl 30
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on October 15, 2011, 09:35:46 am
you shoud not shoot with arbalest from horseback it is not allowed)) btw if i can reach lvl 34 there i can take shield 3 points, or make 7 riding and 2 shield,
just so much riding to use any horse, and with less then 5-6 riding every good horseman witl catch you and kill you, because you are too slow with 3.
And yep i think more fun is better then just pew pew 8-)
Title: Re: xbowman after lvl 30
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on October 15, 2011, 10:22:34 am
1 more thing, if you respawn to late, to avoid cav rape at spawn i will just take horse and move fast to other team))
Title: Re: xbowman after lvl 30
Post by: Varyag on October 15, 2011, 12:35:39 pm
I am going for lvl 32 arbalester. What I can say is if you intend to play strategus (a great source of crpg gold income) you better go for 180 xbow and 9:9 Ath/WM.

Why 180 xbow? Because due to the accuracy nerf last patch 170 is no longer enough to shoot accurately over medium - long distances.
Title: Re: xbowman after lvl 30
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on October 15, 2011, 01:06:34 pm
varjag i use armor with weight less then 7, not like you medium) so my 174 is same like yours 180
Title: Re: xbowman after lvl 30
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on October 15, 2011, 01:17:27 pm
nobody think it is fun to be horseman when it is rain or for fun sometimes?
Title: Re: xbowman after lvl 30
Post by: BlackMilk on October 15, 2011, 01:24:21 pm
nobody think it is fun to be horseman when it is rain or for fun sometimes?
not really, you need atleast 3-4 Horse Archery to have a decent accuracy. Its not worthy for you
Title: Re: xbowman after lvl 30
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on October 15, 2011, 01:29:54 pm
i dont want horsexbow lol) it is just for fun -1) fast coming at start somewhere 2) run away 3) when rain use lance and horse

and btw  at lvl 34 i can have 3 horse archery
Title: Re: xbowman after lvl 30
Post by: bonekuukkeli on October 15, 2011, 06:14:52 pm
Perfect "getaway" tactic to quickly run to nearest free mount and ride some distance to those bloodhungry melees. Easy to change positions around battlefield.  Quite nice for slashing as well. No need to be super effective, but it's often lifesaver and something what opponents are rarely prepared for. 5 ps + mace from horseback with around 100 wpf what I used to have was enough for easy kills.
Title: Re: xbowman after lvl 30
Post by: Varyag on October 15, 2011, 06:28:01 pm
Agor, perhaps you wanna apply for our Merc academy? We r looking for skilled xbowmen and you can increase your skills even further there.
Title: Re: xbowman after lvl 30
Post by: Tennenoth on October 15, 2011, 06:32:43 pm
Since you asked me in game to post, I have little knowledge of crossbowmen to be honest with you, but the build I would choose is the 15/27 one but I wouldn't put the wp into Crossbow, I would put them into 2 handed so that you can swing that mace of yours more effectively, i'm sure it'll increase your survivability (not that valour farmer needs to survive any longer)

Personally, that'll be my recommendation, get some wpf in melee and bat for the 15/27.
Title: Re: xbowman after lvl 30
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on October 15, 2011, 07:05:50 pm
look answer me pls this moment if i will take tunic over mail so ill go more then 7 weight with 9 ath it will be same speed like now with my 8 in low armor?

then it is big difference between 42 armor and 56?  and 84 wpf in melee rly big help?

and sry varjag i dont want join merc(