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cRPG => Beginner's Help and Guides => Topic started by: Morty on February 02, 2011, 11:01:40 pm

Title: What is the relationship between encumberance and strength?
Post by: Morty on February 02, 2011, 11:01:40 pm
This would be a useful  detail for anyone looking to maximize armor and weaponry without taking a penalty on speed.
Title: Re: What is the relationship between encumberance and strength?
Post by: Dach on February 03, 2011, 03:12:01 am
What is the relationship between encumberance and strength?

None

All "armor" weight reduce your WPF, which in a side effect reduce your weapon speed.

Btw, check the sticky in that exact same forum you posted in, it's all written in there!  :wink:
Title: Re: What is the relationship between encumberance and strength?
Post by: EponiCo on February 03, 2011, 03:14:52 am
This would be a useful  detail for anyone looking to maximize armor and weaponry without taking a penalty on speed.

Formulas aren't handed out anymore for exactly that reason.  :lol:
Title: Re: What is the relationship between encumberance and strength?
Post by: Dach on February 03, 2011, 03:34:46 am
troll moar...  :P

quote from the sticky i've just spoke about in my last post...

" There is a decrease on WPP based on the weight of your armor, the formula is:
Total weight = Body armour + Leg armour + (Head armour)x3 + (Hand armour)x2

Where total weight is the amount of WPP decreased.

Important: Here is a perfect Link from Vargas, to calculate Armour and Wpf decrease: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,37.0.html "

Also forgot about movement speed, weight of ALL your equipment slow your movement speed.
Title: Re: What is the relationship between encumberance and strength?
Post by: Kong Ming on February 03, 2011, 09:58:21 am
Unless it has changed since the patch, weight of all equipment you have out affects speed.  Any holstered weapons/shields don't count.  So if you just need to run, put away that board shield and get out your scimitar.
Title: Re: What is the relationship between encumberance and strength?
Post by: krampe on February 03, 2011, 04:37:26 pm
Unless it has changed since the patch, weight of all equipment you have out affects speed.  Any holstered weapons/shields don't count.  So if you just need to run, put away that board shield and get out your scimitar.

When does this rumour die, holstered weapons/shields DO count. Not as much as you wield them but they still do.
Title: Re: What is the relationship between encumberance and strength?
Post by: Kong Ming on February 03, 2011, 06:07:49 pm
Well like I said, I dunno about post patch, but I tested this extensively pre-patch and I can assure you, if it isn't in your hands it has NO affect on speed.  None.  I tested this theory with three siege ladders and a stop watch.  Not a rumor.
Title: Re: What is the relationship between encumberance and strength?
Post by: Morty on February 03, 2011, 08:57:54 pm
I was asking more about running speed and less about fighting speed.

I think I have observed that if your strength exceeds your loadout weight you are more or less "unencumbered" and will move as if you were naked and unequipped.

Don't troll me, bro. I searched for "encumberance."

EDIT: This is totally inaccurate. Found out the exact answer today and verified it.
Title: Re: What is the relationship between encumberance and strength?
Post by: EponiCo on February 04, 2011, 01:09:31 pm
Well like I said, I dunno about post patch, but I tested this extensively pre-patch and I can assure you, if it isn't in your hands it has NO affect on speed.  None.  I tested this theory with three siege ladders and a stop watch.  Not a rumor.

It certainly does. Don't need a stop watch to see it, with 4 steel shields ladders or whatever I'm moving like through glue.
Title: Re: What is the relationship between encumberance and strength?
Post by: Meow on February 04, 2011, 02:15:37 pm
equip the knive it makes you faster in every game!
Title: Re: What is the relationship between encumberance and strength?
Post by: Krakatit on February 04, 2011, 02:53:57 pm
Well like I said, I dunno about post patch, but I tested this extensively pre-patch and I can assure you, if it isn't in your hands it has NO affect on speed.  None.  I tested this theory with three siege ladders and a stop watch.  Not a rumor.

You cant sprint with ladder in your hand so your testing cannot be counted...
Title: Re: What is the relationship between encumberance and strength?
Post by: Delro on February 04, 2011, 05:11:00 pm
equip the knive it makes you faster in every game!

BOOM HEADSHOT!
Title: Re: What is the relationship between encumberance and strength?
Post by: Kong Ming on February 04, 2011, 08:37:49 pm
You cant sprint with ladder in your hand so your testing cannot be counted...

This test was done before the force-equip for ladders was implemented.

It certainly does. Don't need a stop watch to see it, with 4 steel shields ladders or whatever I'm moving like through glue.

If you had 4 then one was in your hand, I'm talking about stuff you have in your slots you aren't currently holding (i.e. holstered)


I could certainly be wrong about how it works now.  All I'm saying is, about two months ago when I tested it by having 3 siege ladders in my backup slots and nothing currently in hand, i ran just as fast as when I dropped all of them.  and when i took one out I was significantly slower.  timed myself running between two constant points that were a significant distance apart.
Title: Re: What is the relationship between encumberance and strength?
Post by: Helbrass on February 05, 2011, 06:49:58 am
All "armor" weight reduce your WPF, which in a side effect reduce your weapon speed.

Is this why so many people at higher levels use lower grade armor or none at all?
Title: Re: What is the relationship between encumberance and strength?
Post by: Kong Ming on February 05, 2011, 07:32:04 am
For the ones that want to swing super fast, yes.
Title: Re: What is the relationship between encumberance and strength?
Post by: Kong Ming on February 06, 2011, 02:12:15 am
Did another test since the patch was released.  Results.

Naked character with 3 athletics running from point A to point B on a map.

No weapons at all: 13.5 seconds
4 Great Mauls, none equipped: 15.5 seconds
4 Great Mauls, 1 equipped: 15.5 seconds
2 Great Mauls, none equipped: 14.5 seconds.

It seems they decided to include weight of all items for encumbrance now.  I withdraw my earlier comment on the subject.
Title: Re: What is the relationship between encumberance and strength?
Post by: zagibu on February 07, 2011, 10:15:09 pm
2 seconds diff is not really significant, though...
Title: Re: What is the relationship between encumberance and strength?
Post by: jspook on February 07, 2011, 10:45:28 pm
are you kidding?  thats a huge difference.  have you ever run a race before?  the guy with less ecumb will be pulling ahead of you the entire time, getting farther away.