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Title: The claims of the Celts
Post by: BalrogBoru on October 10, 2011, 05:58:29 am
Edit;

My apologies to the Fallen, but you didn't post your intentions and I had no desire to read every clan thread so I hope you understand the nature of the mistake. I've removed our claims, if I decide to repost any here it will probably be in the uxkhal or Thir areas as they are unclaimed. If I post any at all.
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Vibe on October 10, 2011, 08:38:42 am
Oh dear, I'm not sure Warcat will like that.
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Warcat on October 10, 2011, 08:52:30 am
Your people are not suited for such lands as these and I assure you they will not suit your needs, I suggest you find new lands far from the harsh steppe. The citizens of Zagush will show you no loyalty as they have become accustomed to evil overlords since the earliest ages of strategus. You may deal with your disputes with honor, but the Fallen have no concept of honor, resistance will only be met with pain.
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Blackzilla on October 10, 2011, 01:42:19 pm
The Celts have arrived in Calradia and are seeking a region to call home. After assessing the lands we have deemed the area from Narra to Malayurg Castle to be best suited to our needs. We see no other claims to this kingdom and heard no rumor of ancestral rights so we take pride in the legitimacy of our claims and will deal with disputes with honour.

Our claim;
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I t hink you're asking to be in a war.
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Gheritarish le Loki on October 10, 2011, 02:14:11 pm
first war of strategus v3??
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on October 10, 2011, 02:31:32 pm
oollololololololololollololol
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Franke on October 10, 2011, 04:34:21 pm
I t hink you're asking to be in a war.

+1
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Lange on October 10, 2011, 04:46:29 pm
We see no other claims to this kingdom and heard no rumor of ancestral rights
Your scout has the eye of a bat and the ear of an eagle.
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Overdriven on October 10, 2011, 04:50:34 pm
We see no other claims to this kingdom and heard no rumor of ancestral rights

 :lol:

Have fun with that :wink:
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: The_Angle on October 10, 2011, 05:26:33 pm
Legio Italica versus the Gauls(Celts) would be a nice battle to see.
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Smiling Daemon on October 10, 2011, 08:58:03 pm
Greetings Celts, I have come to advise you to contact The Fallen Brigade and HRE about your current land claims. Diplomatic actions in the past has shone that failure in communication has led to much misfortune. You can message me, message our leadership, talk to us on IRC, or talk to the leadership on our TS. Thank you for your time, please have a good day.

-SmilingDaemon of Fallen Brigade
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Casimir on October 10, 2011, 09:24:29 pm
derp
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Xant on October 10, 2011, 09:43:01 pm
Your scout has the eye of a bat and the ear of an eagle.

Vvarlord is their secret intelligence officer
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Thovex on October 10, 2011, 09:46:05 pm
Vvarlord is their secret intelligence officer

I wouldn't be suprised.
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Frankysan on October 10, 2011, 10:06:56 pm
I wouldn't be suprised.
lololol
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Cicero on October 10, 2011, 10:09:54 pm
Really what u gonna do ?
Use every village with 1 person ? lol
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Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Lange on October 10, 2011, 10:39:44 pm
Awwww. Get more members, Celt-Guy. We want to have some asses to kick!
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Jarlek on October 11, 2011, 02:38:44 am
I wouldn't be suprised.
I'm so glad he's not our xD
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on October 11, 2011, 03:17:21 am
he's the very high king of the 3 celtic guys.
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Blackzilla on October 11, 2011, 03:19:44 am
so these guys claims are just a joke right?
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Warcat on October 11, 2011, 05:14:23 am
so these guys claims are just a joke right?
they might think it isn't, but it is. With 3 people, they'll be lucky if they find a village somewhere to take. Even if they do, I bet the Antarians will take it from them.
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Zypher on October 11, 2011, 05:43:06 pm
Bal's GFX card has burnt out, he'll be back in a day or two but I'm pretty sure these claims were only proposed on the premise that no-one else was in that area. We didn't know Fallen wanted land on both sides of the border and they didn't post in this section, so unless you think we're going to read through every clan thread to figure out who wants what, you can see that it was a simple mistake.

So chill out, put down the cola and pop rocks. Too much sugar is bad for kids... >.>

they might think it isn't, but it is. With 3 people, they'll be lucky if they find a village somewhere to take. Even if they do, I bet the Antarians will take it from them.

Do you seriously think we would enter strat with 3 members?
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Warcat on October 11, 2011, 05:50:04 pm

Do you seriously think we would enter strat with 3 members?
I see no reason why you shouldn't try, find a large faction to work out an  agreement with, recruit troops in a village, possibly get a fief somewhere eventually. It'd be good for your recruiting and would be fun. Just know that someone is going to be making a claim for just about anywhere you go.
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Zypher on October 11, 2011, 05:53:52 pm
You're missing the point. I never said we weren't entering strat, I simply asked you if you really thought we only had 3 members.

No, seriously though, remain condescending.
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: BalrogBoru on October 11, 2011, 06:17:56 pm
Edited the main post, everyone calm down.
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Gheritarish le Loki on October 11, 2011, 06:25:36 pm
Anyway there is no more interest in this little war, everyone looks to the south now... btw what is this new fashion for the desert?
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Blackzilla on October 11, 2011, 09:11:22 pm
Edit;

My apologies to the Fallen, but you didn't post your intentions and I had no desire to read every clan thread so I hope you understand the nature of the mistake. I've removed our claims, if I decide to repost any here it will probably be in the uxkhal or Thir areas as they are unclaimed. If I post any at all.

Can you apologize to HRE too? We had claims there.
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Franke on October 11, 2011, 11:20:38 pm
Don't think there's really a need to apologize at all...
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: NuberT on October 11, 2011, 11:32:33 pm
I hope hes just kidding XD
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Blackzilla on October 12, 2011, 01:54:40 am
ftp://
Don't think there's really a need to apologize at all...

called sarcasm.
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: neupreis on October 12, 2011, 01:30:26 pm
Good luck with your new claims.
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: BalrogBoru on October 13, 2011, 05:00:16 pm
Good luck with your new claims.

Thanks!
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: okiN on October 17, 2011, 10:40:42 am
it will probably be in the uxkhal or Thir areas as they are unclaimed.

Those are Union and 22nd, respectively.

Pro tip: nothing is unclaimed. Even if it was, someone would claim it after you. If can't fight, don't bother trying to claim anything.
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Xant on October 17, 2011, 03:28:50 pm
Yes, especially if you back out publicly from your claim when someone contests it... :P
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: dynamike on October 17, 2011, 09:31:12 pm
Strategus is tough right now for new/small clans. I recommend to either work as traders/caravan guards/raiders for now or look for an alliance with bigger clans.

Some of them will probably offer you fiefs in exchange for gold/troop/battle contributions down the line.

Oh and not all people in the community are as bad as it seems in this thread. You were just making the "newbie" mistake of catching them on a delicate topic. Good luck in the future to you and yours!
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: BalrogBoru on October 18, 2011, 03:19:18 pm
Thanks Dynamike but I am not worried about how people appear in this thread, or how entitled they feel they are to certain areas in strat. Neither do I consider it a newbie mistake to lay a claim to unclaimed lands if they so called "bigger" clans are too lazy or slow to post their claims with everyone else. In my opinion, that's their noob mistake, not mine.

I didn't back out just because they contested it, I am simply not stupid enough to war someone over their inability to coherently articulate their intentions. If they feel so entitled they should be more responsible. It doesn't bother me and it doesn't affect my clan's plans much. I claimed land that appeared unclaimed as I'm sure anyone would have done in my position and they can get fucked if they fail to see that.
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Xant on October 18, 2011, 03:30:43 pm
Dat attitude.

How is it a big clan's "noobish" mistake if they make their claim "slowly"?  :D If the smaller clans just back off, they can make their claim whenever they want.
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: BalrogBoru on October 18, 2011, 03:35:20 pm
They presume they own the land without making official claims and then scoff when people mistake the land as unclaimed. It's plain retarded to think that anyone would bother trolling every thread in the faction halls to see who claims what. You don't think that's noobish, but you think people claiming unclaimed land IS?
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Blondin on October 18, 2011, 03:46:09 pm
What is official claims?
Only claims i see is what you can take and keep with blood and iron.
Imo claims mean nothing and i'm not sure that every faction land will represent their original claims.
 Btw, you could thx them that they warned you, they could have just crush you without a word.
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Dehitay on October 18, 2011, 04:37:45 pm
I didn't back out just because they contested it, I am simply not stupid enough to war someone over their inability to coherently articulate their intentions.
Everybody should follow this guy's advice and stay away from the incoherent Fallen!
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Warcat on October 18, 2011, 04:40:22 pm
dfoihjg iorjger iogpoajerw goperjgaenr gpojrawg, is that clear enough for you!
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: dynamike on October 18, 2011, 06:44:29 pm
What I was trying to say is that it does not matter who makes a claim - it's about who can defend one.

The bigger clans or the smaller ones with strong allies will be the ones taking what they want, this is the way it has been all over history and the way it is in Strategus.

I am not calling you a newbie (hence the " "), I am simply recommending a different course of action to you when starting from zero. Part of that is making friends in other clans to gain allies - which requires a positive attitude.
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: BaleOhay on October 18, 2011, 06:57:49 pm
What I was trying to say is that it does not matter who makes a claim - it's about who can defend one.

The bigger clans or the smaller ones with strong allies will be the ones taking what they want, this is the way it has been all over history and the way it is in Strategus.

I am not calling you a newbie (hence the " "), I am simply recommending a different course of action to you when starting from zero. Part of that is making friends in other clans to gain allies - which requires a positive attitude AND HANDJOBS.

fixed it for you mike
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Keshian on October 18, 2011, 07:29:31 pm
Handjobs are definitely the key to any successful diplomacy.  We have some real expert "diplomats" in the FCC, oh yes we do.
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: BaleOhay on October 18, 2011, 07:35:21 pm
yeah matey must use a special lotion or something.
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Blackzilla on October 18, 2011, 08:55:31 pm
Thanks Dynamike but I am not worried about how people appear in this thread, or how entitled they feel they are to certain areas in strat. Neither do I consider it a newbie mistake to lay a claim to unclaimed lands if they so called "bigger" clans are too lazy or slow to post their claims with everyone else. In my opinion, that's their noob mistake, not mine.

I didn't back out just because they contested it, I am simply not stupid enough to war someone over their inability to coherently articulate their intentions. If they feel so entitled they should be more responsible. It doesn't bother me and it doesn't affect my clan's plans much. I claimed land that appeared unclaimed as I'm sure anyone would have done in my position and they
 can get fucked if they fail to see that.

We have gone for the same land in all the strategus stuff... I say if you want the land... Fight for it.
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: BalrogBoru on October 19, 2011, 04:48:53 am
I guess the term "honest mistake" isn't known around here.

Let me reiterate; I said nothing about official claims and I did say in my original post that my claims were based on the presumption that no-one else had claimed that land because at the time no-one had. I do not respect the viewpoint of "original claims" because not every clan has gone that way. At the same time I am not going to let some minor error be the catalyst for a war I had no intention of fighting. All this talk of "bigger clans" and "backing down" is just showboating and that is what I take offense to. You assume I need advice simply because I wasn't fully informed, even though that has been addressed. It does not matter if it's my clan, fallen, templols or any other, nobody is going to war in strat by mistake. Size has nothing to do with it. I will choose my enemies and my lands when I see fit.

Thank you all for your input but it was completely redundant.
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Blackzilla on October 19, 2011, 04:51:06 am
I guess the term "honest mistake" isn't known around here.

Let me reiterate; I said nothing about official claims and I did say in my original post that my claims were based on the presumption that no-one else had claimed that land because at the time no-one had. I do not respect the viewpoint of "original claims" because not every clan has gone that way. At the same time I am not going to let some minor error be the catalyst for a war I had no intention of fighting. All this talk of "bigger clans" and "backing down" is just showboating and that is what I take offense to. You assume I need advice simply because I wasn't fully informed, even though that has been addressed. It does not matter if it's my clan, fallen, templols or any other, nobody is going to war in strat by mistake. Size has nothing to do with it. I will choose my enemies and my lands when I see fit.

Thank you all for your input but it was completely redundant.

no problem!
Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: dynamike on October 19, 2011, 02:51:53 pm
I guess the term "honest mistake" isn't known around here.

Let me reiterate; I said nothing about official claims and I did say in my original post that my claims were based on the presumption that no-one else had claimed that land because at the time no-one had. I do not respect the viewpoint of "original claims" because not every clan has gone that way. At the same time I am not going to let some minor error be the catalyst for a war I had no intention of fighting. All this talk of "bigger clans" and "backing down" is just showboating and that is what I take offense to. You assume I need advice simply because I wasn't fully informed, even though that has been addressed. It does not matter if it's my clan, fallen, templols or any other, nobody is going to war in strat by mistake. Size has nothing to do with it. I will choose my enemies and my lands when I see fit.

Thank you all for your input but it was completely redundant.

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Title: Re: The claims of the Celts
Post by: Rikthor on October 19, 2011, 03:31:39 pm
Personally I am glad, despite being a small clan, they have this attitude. To bad some of the bigger clans don't have the same fighting spirit.