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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Realism Discussion => Topic started by: Christo on October 06, 2011, 09:24:03 pm
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What the hell is a zoom doing in the game?
Did you think about it? What's the explanation, we've all got some binoculars mounted on our helmets that are invisible, or what?
:D
Also it would be a nice ranged skill-increase, paired up with taking the crosshair away.
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Zoom can go, crosshair can stay. Thats my opinion at least
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Sure, it's alright.
That's why I made the poll like that. :wink:
Even though I'd love to see it go, I'm not going to talk shit and lobby around like some people.
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with zoom or not it is possible enough to snipe, without it you just have pain in eyes faster, i love my eyes so no, zoom shoud stay
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Sure if you want that crosshair and zoom go out,then there should not be accurancy,it should be always on 100% without spreading ur crosshair which you wont even have if it is deleted ,right ? or if not,then sure delete zoom/crosshair but put a 90% black screen for knights who wear heavy armored helmets...
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You clearly never had a real Great Helm on your head.
It doesn't limit vision that much, people always exaggerate on this.
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+1 for removing zoom.
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As someone who mains infantry I really like the zoom. If I'm coming up on a bunch of guys in the distance I can see who has a bow way before I even get in range. It also lets me see if a far-away archer is pointing at me or someone else.
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Zoom can go, crosshair can stay. Thats my opinion at least
This. Crosshair can be cheated in too many ways anyway.
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As long as there is fucking nighttime in this game the zoom function should stay.
I usually play without it cause it sucks and you are way more accurate without zooming, but when it's night on the server you hardly see people at distance. In that case it is kinda useful.
Taking the crosshair away? o.O
And how do you want us to aim then?
This is not reallife where you can aim with you eye alone and where you have a feeling for your body and bow etc^^
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How are you more accurate when you don't zoom in? :lol:
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Some people can adjust easier with the environment around him, like that.
I'm one of those people.
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so it looks like inf want to make zoom off and ranged to keep it, for inf it does not matter much, for ranged a lot, i think inf just want nerf ranged a bit more :D
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give certain helmets perma-zoom.
incentive to wear light helmets...
edit, actually better idea. All headwear have an additional stat, zoom factor.
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so it looks like inf want to make zoom off and ranged to keep it, for inf it does not matter much, for ranged a lot, i think inf just want nerf ranged a bit more :D
I think the same. The main difference being some think it's legitimate and some others don't.
Especially xbows need this as the 1st person view provides a good ironsights, and you shouldn't know precisely how accurate it is, only by gut feeling. It would just take a bit more practice, but good ranged would do just fine. For throwing, the reticule is unnecessary anyway. Only archery would become a tad more difficult. It would even help in those ridiculous 90° camera movement + instafire actions archers and xbow frequently do. Inf don't have reach detectors and cav don't have speedometers, it only makes sense ranged don't have crosshairs. Zoom is totally unrealistic.
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Try aiming down the barrel of a gun, or a bow. It's practically "zooming" (unless you are doing instinctive shooting). Your peripheral vision goes away and you concentrate a lot more. If anything, lower the sound drastically when aiming and zooming, but removing it would actually be unrealistic.
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How are you more accurate when you don't zoom in? :lol:
I have no idea why that is, but you are more accurate when you shot without zooming.
One thing is that your reticule is bigger when you zoom and your arrow almost never goes straight forward to the middle of your reticule, dunno why.
I've stopped zooming in a long time ago and I get far more kills than before ;)
Tenne is also shooting without zoom as far as I know and I bet most good archers shoot without
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your reticule is bigger.. so is everything else on the screen. its ZOOM, after all
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Haha.
Guess ranged elitists found the thread and got butthurt.
Oh, well.
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no
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May I ask why?
Just interested.
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One bad thing about removing zoom is that it would favor short range archery.
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Hey, if you want to increase friendly archer hits by 100%, by all means.
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One bad thing about removing zoom is that it would favor short range archery.
That's what most archers do anyways.
Yeah, now -my post without an actual discussion.
Meh, what did I expect.
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I even use zoom as pure melee. It's the ability to focus one's view on something distant, losing field of view in return. I wouldn't want to miss it.
We might remove the ability to block/chamber with a poleaxe in close combat though. You can switch to fist mode and chamberblock incoming attacks then. That would lead to a nice skill increase for poleaxers.
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Has it's uses, yes.
But there is a reason I put it in Realism Discussion, and not in GB discussion. :)
Gameplay-wise it's okay, but from the Realism side it's weird. :)
*not like Realism Discussion is taken seriously, but whatever*
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That's what most archers do anyways.
Yeah, now -my post without an actual discussion.
Meh, what did I expect.
Well, i suppose then the best solution is to make accurate shooting more difficult for the archers who try to avoid teamhits. Heck, let's make the bow the flamberge of ranged TW/TK, why not?
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First person view: Zoom is not unrealistic at all. It is simply the character focusing/squinting into the distance on a certain point, thus removing their peripheral vision.
The crosshairs are stupid, but idk if they could be removed at this point in the game's development.
In some optimal version of the game there would be no 3rd person view, 1st person view would be slid back a bit on the char's shoulders or given a wider FOV, zoom and crosshairs would be removed.
The amount of smarm in this sub-forum is disgusting btw.
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crosshairs is easy mode for ranged.
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I'm playing on 1920x1080 on a 27 inch screen. I don't need zoom.
But i see no reason to punish people on wooden pc's and small monitors by removing zoom.
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For me it turns out that this thread is just another stupid try to nerf archery :rolleyes:
I personnaly shoot better (And I know I'm good at shooting people 8-) ) without zooming but I think many archers, especially new ones, really need that to get used to archery and to aim over distance.
If you remove it you will destroy archery for many guys, but hey, your mission to get rid of archery might be almost completed then :rolleyes:
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You have it backwards. Zoomed in view is the realistic view. Zoomed out is the unrealistic one but we have it cause irl we have better situational awarness than in game.
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Zooming can be removed, but crosshair.... I don't know.
What about removing 3rd person view? Then it will be more realistic :D
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You have it backwards. Zoomed in view is the realistic view. Zoomed out is the unrealistic one but we have it cause irl we have better situational awarness than in game.
Not really, because in RL you recognise what's going on around you left and right ;)
Doesn't work ingame and the zoom is definitely not realistic :rolleyes:
And taking the 3rd person view really sucks guys :O
I hate 1st person games, because you only see your stupid hands/weapon and maybe your feet. I want to see my whole char. I want to see how he takes his arrow, I want to see how he draws his bow and I want to see what the stuff I wear looks like :rolleyes:
Stupid thread, close it please
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U can see ur chracter, is it realistic ? I dont use zoom but novice archers need this for learn how to shot.
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I don't care whether it's realistic or not :rolleyes:
If we start talking about what's realistic in this game and what not, then we will write for weeks here.
And seeing only your hands and weapon is unrealistic either ;)
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i voted no to both
the zoom represents an archers focus on the distance
i use zoom myself as 2h melee to check out far places too
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no...
Zooming? Why? Archers are already inaccurate...
Reticule? ZOMG! If no reticule = ranged weapons will be useless and it shall be just deleted from the game.
Are you joking with this topic?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no...
I am not agreeing with you.
Poll - I say "no!".
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I am not agreeing with you.
You know, this would've been enough.
I can agree, and live with other folks opinions.
But when you bring in the defensive biased bullshit.. ah.. not worth my time to explain.
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*cough* http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,18938.0.html