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Title: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: chadz on September 30, 2011, 08:36:42 am
I want to announce several things and figured I'd just drop them all into one big post. So let's start.

Strategus
These days, every spare minute I can afford currently goes into strategus. This means both the website part and the ingame part. We have the new fancy map from Thomek included, we have working geography with 16 different terrains that define speed and view distance (means you can hide in woods and other things), we have a simple yet interesting trading system (that admittedly needs live finetuning), we will have an expanded hiring system and a new vassal system that will replace the current faction system. We have a new movement/destination system, that replaces the old 'radius' thing - to attack, enter, trade etc you have to 'catch' your target. Which means you can set a fief or another player as a target and just follow him or attack him automatically when you reach him. Some other things that are planned medium-term are buildable roads by players and sea travel/trade/warfare.


Strategus ingame
Some may have spotted the scattered hints at ingame changes for strategus, but I want to collect them here too:
Terrain: Thanks to WSE, we will be able to create random terrain with parameters. This means we can create a hilly area ingame when an attack happens near hills, forests, water, etc - always with the correct underground (plains, steppe, desert, snow etc). Due to caravans and the obviously included raidings we expect a lot more battles outside fiefs. We are also considering making separate scenes for special locations, like a bridge or a mountain pass. 

Also, we'll be removing the attackers flag from strategus, more or less, and replace it with a commander/batallion system. When you hire people on the website, you can assign them (for this match) permanently to a team, either as commander or as fighter. Commanders act as a mobile respawn point and will auto-regenerate health over time. However, they have a very high (and gradually increasing) respawn timer, so they will be a preferred target of the defenders side - because killing him REALLY hurts. A good commander will find a balance between being very close to the enemy, but not getting overwhelmed by them. We hope that this turns strategus away from runrunrundierespawn, runrunrundierespawn to a highly tactical game. Again, finetuning will happen after public release.

Another perfectly hidden announcement is the change of archery (that will require WSE, read below). We want to give archers a different role in strategus - to shower the enemies with arrows instead of sniping them. Which means faster drawing speed and lower precision for all bows (strategus only). While the new attacker spawn thing will probably counter archers a bit already, we also want to buff shieldwalls by giving additional shield skill to people in formations.

WSE...
So, WSE. Actually, I'm drifting away, because this needs some explanation:
... mod download...
Mod installation and download: As some may have noticed, we recently switched to fileserve as the main download host. The reason for this was simple - I was trying to raise some bucks for the NA server and wanted to see if that could generate enough money to support it. It kind of failed both ways - while there was a bit of money, it's nowhere near enough to have a substantial impact on the monthly server costs for NA. And on top of that, many people got, understandably, mad at the slow or sometimes failing download speeds. And people getting fed up or being unable to install the game altogether simply bears no relation at all to a few extra bucks. So I consider this experiment failed.

So now we're trying to turn to the exact other way. We'll host the files entirely on our own servers now, which should result in really fast download speeds. And on top of that - an cRPG launcher. This thing is pretty cool, coded by cmp - it automatically updates your cRPG folder to the latest version and just downloads the required files. And then it boots it with WSE (=for those who don't know, it's an external executable to modify warband to give it countless new cool features). So in the future, when you hear "PAAAAAAAAAAAAATCH", all you do is run a desktop link. Cool, eh? Works like a charm.

WSE
What is WSE? WSE is done by cmp and makes warband AWESOME! It adds so many new features that are not included in the original warband. If you want to read more into it, check this thread: http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?topic=151194.0

Advertisement
Therefore, we'll also be trying out a new advertisement network. It looks promising, and could bring more profit than the current one. Which could, in the end, mean that we're independant from donations and I might be able to cover the costs of the website, EU and NA with the ad income - which would be pretty cool, as you all hopefully agree. Expect to see some new ads, though :)

Schedule
So I'm getting back to where I started: Strategus. It should be close to a release in the next few days. I'm not sure if I want to do a mini-public beta test (as in, opening the new version with the old map/ownerships for 3 days so everyone can see and test the new changes - would also mean people can plan ahead on how to do things when the real game starts) or just reset quietly and then bring on the new version. Feel free to tell me what you'd like. 

All in all, I am pretty pleased where everything is heading.

tl;dr: if you cba to read it, I cba to make a summary. Duh.

Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Vibe on September 30, 2011, 08:42:55 am
cool
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: slothscott on September 30, 2011, 08:44:50 am
WooHoo
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Hrafn on September 30, 2011, 08:50:13 am
cool.btw will there be place for unclan players in strategus? Like lonely bandits,merchants etc.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: chadz on September 30, 2011, 08:51:37 am
there definately should be. You can run around with 60 troops without paying any upkeep, and you can do some fine trading or robbing with that already. Of course, time will tell if it works as intended, but I can't wait to test it out myself with a big playerbase :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Cepeshi on September 30, 2011, 08:52:17 am
Woot
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Vovka on September 30, 2011, 08:54:09 am
 Nice, meet u on december 2012   :lol:
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: kinngrimm on September 30, 2011, 08:55:32 am
Wolves were restless the last days, now soon they will be able to put their claws and teeth into something somewhere within caladria again  :twisted:

I am all for complete reset. Fiddle out the quirks on the run. Perhaps announce the next reset from the start. Like we will have 2 months testing, playing strategus. Afterwards it is off for 4 weeks ... That way we all can calculate in a timelimit within we have to act to get something done and we are all prepared that it will go off at a certain point, where you will be able to include bigger changes then.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Vibe on September 30, 2011, 08:56:56 am
One question: Will the "all thine work..." thingy be in this strategus?
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Gheritarish le Loki on September 30, 2011, 09:08:32 am
obiouvsly At fifteen, I had the will to  learn ; at thirty, I could stand ; at forty, I had no  doubts ; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding ;  at sixty, my ears were opened ; at seventy, I could  do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the  square., it´s official now...

I second vibe about crafting?
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: chadz on September 30, 2011, 09:12:47 am
Definately not yet in the intended form.

However, I might come up with a shortcut that gives you the same benefit with less detail, similar to the trading approach.. I'll have to check.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Camaris on September 30, 2011, 09:14:36 am
chadzoliscious this is.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Ganner on September 30, 2011, 09:19:50 am
Sounds very intersting.

Thanks for the hard work mr chadz.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: SeQuel on September 30, 2011, 09:19:55 am
Amazing job chadz, well done.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: LordSnow on September 30, 2011, 09:47:27 am
Thx dev team :D
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Belatu on September 30, 2011, 10:06:11 am
I am getting horny   :oops:
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Blondin on September 30, 2011, 10:18:55 am
This is awesome!

I know some will hate me, but take your time for the release, we can wait.
Oh and thanks for the new feature for clanless ppl, i hope we will see a lot of bandits and pillagers to annoy clans.

Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Varyag on September 30, 2011, 10:19:41 am
Finally  :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Torben on September 30, 2011, 10:33:33 am
ty for all the hard work...
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Rogue on September 30, 2011, 10:34:17 am
Wow... just wow!  :shock: Now I just need to get my game to work again.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Thomek on September 30, 2011, 10:37:24 am
Good stuff! Exiting!
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Tot. on September 30, 2011, 10:59:44 am
Any updates on the new gamemode which has had the beta weekend some time ago?
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Prpavi on September 30, 2011, 11:00:16 am
nice to see you still care.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Gurnisson on September 30, 2011, 11:03:54 am
Really looking forward to these changes. Just to bad my laptop decided to die a few days ago. :(
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Ginosaji on September 30, 2011, 11:06:08 am
Bye bye studies :(

Hello Strategus! :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Kafein on September 30, 2011, 11:18:47 am
Awesome !
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Gisbert_of_Thuringia on September 30, 2011, 11:30:00 am
Sounds totally interesting :)

And thanks for a full statement about what will happen this time, even before release  :shock:  *thumbs up*
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Vibe on September 30, 2011, 11:34:29 am
Oh right, what about Stronghold?
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: SquishMitten on September 30, 2011, 11:48:31 am
Sweet!
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Bjord on September 30, 2011, 11:50:10 am
The praise of many will empower the one. He must continue, the story ends not here.
 
It is gratitude.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Franke on September 30, 2011, 12:07:41 pm
Wow. Sounds really great to me. Looking forward to the re-re-release.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: arowaine on September 30, 2011, 12:12:46 pm
Awsome,great work to all the dev team especialy chadz +1
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: cmp on September 30, 2011, 12:18:34 pm
That WES thing looks like a virus, won't be downloading it.
At fifteen, I had the will to  learn ; at thirty, I could stand ; at forty, I had no  doubts ; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding ;  at sixty, my ears were opened ; at seventy, I could  do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the  square..
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Tennenoth on September 30, 2011, 12:21:34 pm
All sounds good other than maybe the archery thing, but I suppose we'll gave to wait and see how that turns out. (Only thing I can see bad about this is for castle battles, as much as volleying downwards is good, volleying upwards isn't.
Also, does this apply to Crossbows and throwing? I hope it does.

Secondly, it's great to see that you're releasing the patcher, that was a hell of a lot easier than having to manually do that, good work CMP.

Finally, Commander spawns, not really 100% sure on how these will work. Is there a possibility to have more than one, like squad commanders? So for example, there is a total of 5 possible "commander" figures, or is there specifically only one that this is possible to do. From what you have written I can assume that it's more than one but depending on the proximity and location of the spawners, this could be a little awkward, especially as an archer, if they allies spawn in front of them! Boom headshot, needless to say! ;) (I'm sure that's been thought of.)

Can't wait to do some Caravaning, be rollin' with the goods soon enough.

That WES thing looks like a virus, won't be downloading it.
At fifteen, I had the will to  learn ; at thirty, I could stand ; at forty, I had no  doubts ; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding ;  at sixty, my ears were opened ; at seventy, I could  do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the  square..

Good job this thing is WSE then.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Kansuke on September 30, 2011, 12:28:20 pm
At fifteen, I had the will to  learn ; at thirty, I could stand ; at forty, I had no  doubts ; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding ;  at sixty, my ears were opened ; at seventy, I could  do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the  square..
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Siiem on September 30, 2011, 12:34:58 pm
And on top of that - an cRPG launcher. This thing is pretty cool, coded by cmp - it automatically updates your cRPG folder to the latest version and just downloads the required files. And then it boots it with WSE (=for those who don't know, it's an external executable to modify warband to give it countless new cool features). So in the future, when you hear "PAAAAAAAAAAAAATCH", all you do is run a desktop link. Cool, eh? Works like a charm.

This is how world domination starts... it may seem convenient, but I wonder what the real reason for this is. What are you planning to autoinstall eh?

Anyway gj xD
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: ManOfWar on September 30, 2011, 12:54:00 pm
chadz, make it so only like 4-5 people can be commanders
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: cmp on September 30, 2011, 12:55:03 pm
This is how world domination starts... it may seem convenient, but I wonder what the real reason for this is. What are you planning to autoinstall eh?

A program that deletes a random file each time you kill me.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Chort on September 30, 2011, 01:15:35 pm
What are you planning to autoinstall eh?

just a small program that creates hidden .git folder everywhere...

P.S. just an IT joke...
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: okiN on September 30, 2011, 01:29:09 pm
Finally, Commander spawns, not really 100% sure on how these will work. Is there a possibility to have more than one, like squad commanders? So for example, there is a total of 5 possible "commander" figures, or is there specifically only one that this is possible to do.
chadz, make it so only like 4-5 people can be commanders

Up to six. Like he said, it's linked to battalions.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: The_danish_lost_viking on September 30, 2011, 01:52:46 pm
Sounds very good.

But i hope we get a chance to try it out before it really start
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: chadz on September 30, 2011, 01:53:04 pm
(Only thing I can see bad about this is for castle battles, as much as volleying downwards is good, volleying upwards isn't. )

So archers behind battlements have an advantage against archers in the open? Gosh.  :wink:
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Torben on September 30, 2011, 01:57:56 pm
all this shit is just full of win
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Varyag on September 30, 2011, 02:23:54 pm
I hope xbows will stay the same?
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: BaleOhay on September 30, 2011, 02:25:33 pm
What he said above. Dedicated xbowman... Low accuracy would hurt.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Jacko on September 30, 2011, 02:27:09 pm
Xbows will reign supreme!

BWAHAHAHAHAHA


Also, great stuff.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Gheritarish le Loki on September 30, 2011, 02:27:56 pm
Sounds very good.

But i hope we get a chance to try it out before it really start

Lol... This is a beta, we are here to test already...
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: dynamike on September 30, 2011, 02:32:06 pm
What was so important about RL again?
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: MrShine on September 30, 2011, 03:02:59 pm
All this sounds awesome!

I predict that archery will become whined about even more unfortunately (since all infantry will remember is the times they get hit by arrows and not the bajillion misses), but it seems like a great distinction between xbows (slow & deadly & accurate) and archery (fast & inaccurate & kinda hurty).

Less accurate faster firing arrows also means that bodkins might not actually be the default arrow... people are going to need to fire more than they are used to and it might be a legitimate question for archers/commanders to provide 24 arrow stacks or piercing stacks of 15.

Excited to try it all out! :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on September 30, 2011, 03:29:12 pm
Keep up the great work guys.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Lansamur on September 30, 2011, 03:55:10 pm
(click to show/hide)

All thine hard work hath payed off.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: BattalGazi on September 30, 2011, 04:05:08 pm
So;

First things first: Good job coders! I'm thrilled to see groundbreaking changes, keep up the good work!

Here are some of my foresight:
Roster Application and Approval
As now commanders will be the spawn location for the attacker team, we will expect to see some shiny armor and material for the dedicated commanders. This will bring the necessity to completely organize the team in a medium, say teamspeak. So the team will need to ask everyone to keep out of these shiny stuff as they will belong to commanders. SO; I am presuming that the chances for randomers, clanless guys and people from non-ally factions will drop dramatically to sign up for battles.
Tactics and Maneuvers
If the spawn spot for the attacker will be the commander, we might see much effective spawn capture maneuvers. I am guessing, so it could be a total rubbish, as long as the commander lives, the dying attackers will have the chance to re-spawn directly in the middle of the hot point; the last location they died; somewhere very close to defender spawn. This will bring reality maybe or maybe not. Seems quite ambiguous.
Formations
According to the changes on archery system, shield walls will gain more importance. Any other bonus it brings or the way it brings still remains questionable. but we will be seeing more shielders and formations, that is for certain. Maybe clans will need to train on shield wall formations and volley shots, sounds galvanizing :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: [ptx] on September 30, 2011, 04:25:59 pm
So, i just spent some 10 minutes trying to find an appropriate picture and failed.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Keshian on September 30, 2011, 04:30:29 pm
Awesome work chadz and cmp and the rest of the development team.  Sounds absolutely amazing.  Well worth the wait.

I would say use old strategus fiefs,e tc. for 2-3 days, so people can figure out how to handle new fief ownership and trading, etc.  so we can understand the value of trying to take a fief and how the new functions will work.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: BattalGazi on September 30, 2011, 04:31:08 pm
So, i just spent some 10 minutes trying to find an appropriate picture and failed.
I have to admit, I admire your avatar. I wish he was a relative to me :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Ego_HRE on September 30, 2011, 04:32:22 pm
great great great great great great great great :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: POOPHAMMER on September 30, 2011, 04:33:09 pm
Oh damn, I did not know you picked that host for the money. How about this chadz, host one on your server and host one there, people who care about helping finance the mod can just download it from the sponsored link instead or at a later time, I mean you have nothing to lose by doing so, so why not try that?
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Rangerbob on September 30, 2011, 04:34:52 pm
Here's an idea for your mobile spawn point commander.   Instead of having people spawn on top of the commander, is it possible to get him the ability to build a new spawn point?

Make a commander only construction site item and require like 25 materials to build a spawn point.

That way people don't put the commander on a plated charger or courser and just have him ride around to the weakest area popping out people on the flags.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Reinhardt on September 30, 2011, 04:42:14 pm
visitors can't see pics , please register or login


Woo!
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: The_Angle on September 30, 2011, 04:46:44 pm
The new commander business will really make battles super competitive, I can't wait.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Jarlek on September 30, 2011, 04:49:05 pm
So, i just spent some 10 minutes trying to find an appropriate picture and failed.
You are not alone.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Tomas on September 30, 2011, 05:46:07 pm
Some questions :)  Some might be more about future plans rather than about the current changes.

1)  Will there be anywhere to practice Strat style archery outside of Strat Battles?

2)  Will the shield skill bonus be visible in any kind of way so that people can tell if they are doing it right?  Maybe just outlining your shield icon when the bonus is active?  I don't think an exact number or anything is needed (or wanted).

3)  Will we be getting any kind of equipment management system so that commander armour can't be stolen?

4)  Will there be any conditional limits on the commander spawn system?  For instance, if a commander has "x" times more enemies than allies near them, they are considered cutoff and respawning stops near them with their men spawning at the original spawn point instead.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Mannhammer on September 30, 2011, 06:29:41 pm
1)  Will there be anywhere to practice Strat style archery outside of Strat Battles?
This...
This..
This is a good question!

Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Byrdi on September 30, 2011, 06:33:23 pm
Looks good.
I would vote for having a 3 day testing periode when the new strat arrives.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: POOPHAMMER on September 30, 2011, 06:39:40 pm
This...
This..
This is a good question!

This is a great question, I would like to know this as well
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Tennenoth on September 30, 2011, 06:58:34 pm
So archers behind battlements have an advantage against archers in the open? Gosh.  :wink:

Not what I meant and i'm sure you know that hence the wink at the end.

They always have and always should, but by having this volley maybe rather detrimental to the balance since it's already difficult (due to invisible walls (assuming that the fixes have actually fixed this.) on battlements & the decreased damage due to shooting upwards.) to hit the targets, i'm sure this'll come back to bite you in the arse at the very least from whine by attackers who're completely outdone by the sheer number of defending archers able to bugger up any real efforts at getting onto the walls.

Archers these days don't play as large a role as they use to, back in the day as it were.

I can also gather from that, that it is only specifically archers that're hit by this during strategus, not all range.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Teeth on September 30, 2011, 07:11:14 pm
Shit just got serious. I don't know why, but this suddenly seems such a huge leap to epicness. New launcher, WSE client side and new strat features. I'm impressed with the work done. I love you!
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Bjord on September 30, 2011, 07:12:40 pm
^ What he said.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 30, 2011, 07:15:13 pm
If you are having arrows shower with less accuracy more speed etc, then you might want to consider slightly increasing ammunition sizes, or have some way for archers to refil without dying.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: ThePoopy on September 30, 2011, 07:17:20 pm
wepon racks...
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Jarlek on September 30, 2011, 07:21:10 pm
If you are having arrows shower with less accuracy more speed etc, then you might want to consider slightly increasing ammunition sizes, or have some way for archers to refil without dying.
The fuck, ToD? You haven't heard about the weapon racks already? Wait, this must be a new ToD to get Forum duty.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 30, 2011, 07:27:49 pm
Honestly forgot about them as I have never used one nor seen one.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Wookimonsta on September 30, 2011, 07:28:10 pm
chadz, stop killing the mod
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on September 30, 2011, 07:29:32 pm
Honestly forgot about them as I have never used one nor seen one.
They are simultaneously Pandora's Box and the salvation of mankind (in cRPG).
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Jarlek on September 30, 2011, 07:31:27 pm
Honestly forgot about them as I have never used one nor seen one.
Check them out on duel or something, they really are fun to play with. Is also hillarious in siege if your defending as a thrower (DAT RANGED SPAM!) or making barricades (DAT BARRICADE SPAM!)
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Kalp on September 30, 2011, 07:43:44 pm
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Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: justme on September 30, 2011, 07:45:04 pm
A program that deletes a random file each time you kill me.

good thing is that u never play :P
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Christo on September 30, 2011, 07:51:47 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_VheAwZBuQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_VheAwZBuQ)

Even though I cannot play the mod since weeks, I'm glad.

Keep it up'!
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: PhantomZero on September 30, 2011, 07:54:30 pm
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Complaints and whining will be reserved until such time as it actually comes out and none of the features actually work.

Going back to the Commander/Fighter thing though, could you expand on that? So people could hire different types of fighters that could be assigned different gear loadouts? It could be a hierarchy sort of thing, where the command can use any equipment, tier 1 could use everything except commander level, tier 2 everything except commander and tier 1, etc. etc. so you can have small amounts of elite units that just use regular equipment if the elite equip runs out.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Panoply on September 30, 2011, 11:41:33 pm
This sounds fucking awesome.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Shadowren on October 01, 2011, 12:09:38 am
It Sounds Awesome!   :shock:

Can't wait to play/test all the new features out. Well hopfully everything goes smoothly.

 :mrgreen: BEST OF LUCK chadz ON THE NEW STRAT :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Rain on October 01, 2011, 05:32:11 am
Anyone else having trouble installing the WSE thing?
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Flawless on October 01, 2011, 05:40:18 am
E-JIZZZ
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Patricia on October 01, 2011, 06:00:06 am
Will I be able to make a 13 shield skill main character so that I can become a pro commander where I'll rarely die and be able to get my entire team to respawn right inside the battle? :O
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Casimir on October 01, 2011, 06:25:59 am
My new "commander Build"

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 Rush towards defenders, ride around with shield perma up. Wait for horse to die, keep holding shield up.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: PhantomZero on October 01, 2011, 07:13:48 am
I'd kind of like to see a preview of the features with the old map and ownerships, but as long as everyone starts on the same blank page, i'm not opposed to the wipe and new version plan.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: SchokoSchaf on October 01, 2011, 11:34:01 am
A big thank you to all the devs who spend their time and nerves on this utterly whiny and undeserving community.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: okiN on October 01, 2011, 12:53:35 pm
I have to admit, I admire your avatar. I wish he was a relative to me :)

I mentioned it to ptx a while back and the bum didn't even know who it was, or what film. Just picked it up randomly online. :mad:
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: [ptx] on October 01, 2011, 01:15:24 pm
I mentioned it to ptx a while back and the bum didn't even know who it was, or what film. Just picked it up randomly online. :mad:
Yes. I am just that good.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: mustg on October 01, 2011, 02:20:24 pm
 :shock:
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Overdriven on October 01, 2011, 02:29:39 pm
Love the sound of the new features.

I hope the archery change doesn't effect HA in strat? :P

I'd say open strat with the old map/fiefs so people can figure things out\suggest possible changes before being chucked into the new one.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: karasu on October 01, 2011, 02:57:43 pm
Finally good news!

The idea given by Hrafnn of clanless players being able to play as bandits/mercs/etc is kinda cool.


Let's rock this joint!
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: MaHuD on October 01, 2011, 03:02:52 pm
Looking cool.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Teeth on October 01, 2011, 03:40:28 pm
The earlier active attacks and ladders in battle are detrimental to my enjoyment of this game. Just needed to say that.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: DrKronic on October 01, 2011, 04:26:26 pm
this sounds great man, keep it up
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Thax on October 01, 2011, 08:10:08 pm
If you mean old land ownership with no gear, no gold , no troops....then just a fresh start please. It would take 3 days of grinding gold and troops (presumably) before any sizable battles would be scheduled to test the new system. 
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on October 02, 2011, 12:45:37 pm
perhaps it's the right time to add battle banners as in-game items.

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Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: The_Angle on October 02, 2011, 01:52:25 pm
Battle banners as in-game equipment that'd be fucking epic!
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Jarlek on October 02, 2011, 01:54:38 pm
I would GLADLY sacrifice my attacking power for a banner! Even a 4 slot only stab banner and I would still use it ALL THE TIME :D
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: The_Angle on October 02, 2011, 01:56:31 pm
I don't think using it as a 'weapon' would be any good. You'd never see the things on the battlefield apart from one or two. Now if they were sheathable on your back, like a shield(or a war spear) Now that'd be good.

Also, make it do zero damage and zero stun, then with that you can reduce its price too 0 gold meaning that the commanders will not take any skin off their bones to buy them.

...Or you could always have them given out for free on each battle.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 02, 2011, 03:51:49 pm
I want the ability to heirloom my banner.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Overdriven on October 02, 2011, 04:17:56 pm
Should make the banners be the spawn rather than a commander. Or make it so a commander has a forced banner. Then you'd really see some epic fights around the commanders and their elite guards  :P
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: pecores_timotheysnow on October 02, 2011, 04:24:09 pm
BANNER AND FLAG YOUHOU!!!!! GIMME :!: :!: :!:
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: LordSnow on October 02, 2011, 04:28:59 pm
Yey give us the banners from 1257AD , they look amazing and are heraldic, each clan can carry his banner, that would be awsome. There are 3 or 4 model based on a 2H animation when you hold it, they are amazing.

You can give a slightly bonus when we are around a banner, like +3HP or +5WPF, or a small heal.

I'm sure it can be the greatest improvement since a long time
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Hrafn on October 02, 2011, 04:42:36 pm
Perhaps you can give banner to battalion commander? This will stop them from using shield with 13 skill and make them rely more on battalion fighters.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: The_Angle on October 02, 2011, 06:05:34 pm
Preferably a battle standard would be better, then we don't get these stupid unrealistic looking frozen banners hanging in the air.
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Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Torp on October 02, 2011, 11:47:49 pm
"All thine hard work paid off, thou have now created a freaking awesome mod!"
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Savaris on October 02, 2011, 11:55:29 pm
Banners would be nice!
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Banok on October 03, 2011, 02:49:33 am
SOUNDS GOOD BRO
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Croaker McGee on October 04, 2011, 07:22:54 am
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Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Bjarky on October 04, 2011, 12:57:23 pm
well deserved  8-)
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Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: SchokoSchaf on October 04, 2011, 01:05:21 pm
But you need to make the banner big and clearly visible in the right proportion to the pole. Not like the kind of little flag-banner in the persintent world-mod that looks like a piece of cloth on a beam.
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Phazey on October 04, 2011, 05:44:46 pm
Strategus. It should be close to a release in the next few days. I'm not sure if I want to do a mini-public beta test (as in, opening the new version with the old map/ownerships for 3 days so everyone can see and test the new changes - would also mean people can plan ahead on how to do things when the real game starts)

Yes, please do. And 3 days might be too short. Test and test again, i'm sure it needs a lot of balancing, bugfixes and tweaks.

If you activate strategus, the rat race begins again and we'll all feel obliged to spend a lot of time on it.

Do small scale closed beta tests first to ensure it's ready for full scale. Please? :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Vrael on October 04, 2011, 07:52:27 pm
Banners would be awesome!

Preferably a battle standard would be better, then we don't get these stupid unrealistic looking frozen banners hanging in the air.
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I've been collecting at that, and it is just pathetic difficult to paint a banner...
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Hansen on October 05, 2011, 09:35:30 pm
sacrifice one weapon slot, for a NPC with your banner ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: gazda on October 06, 2011, 07:10:53 pm
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a true crpg story
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Corwin on October 08, 2011, 01:09:01 am
I am having terrible lags. Strategus or something else?
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: rufio on October 08, 2011, 11:57:32 am
i forsee if this item/class dous not get a nerf it will reign supreme on defensive side visitors can't see pics , please register or login


asside from that this totally sounds awesome, great work  cant wait
Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Bartlomiey on October 08, 2011, 12:02:21 pm
GW chadz!

Title: Re: Upcoming Updates: Strategus, WSE and Downloads and financial stuff
Post by: Draggon on October 08, 2011, 05:16:38 pm
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