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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Torben on September 28, 2011, 12:50:32 pm

Title: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: Torben on September 28, 2011, 12:50:32 pm
Remove the system of alts,  and introduce the KNAVE system.  This would foster the RP character of the game,  link any alt char to the main char and would probably taste like tequila flavored lemon pie. juice.

features:

-the alt gets the nametag (main+)sknave = Tychow_Torbensknave

-the tenth shal goeth to the main (gold)

-the main can take whatever he wants (free one-way extraction of items)

-the main may rape the alts wife (+1 syphilis)


spitballin not-sure-ideas:

-any item the alt/knave buys has to be paid by the main

-the knave can not buy the highest tear weapons and armor. this would make high end loomes more special,  as only mains can loom them.  i like this in particular

-1x of gold the knave makes gets subtracted from the main ?

-insert any medieval features that would make this more roleplayish,  pleas post ideas.




edited a little mistake
Title: Re: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: Vibe on September 28, 2011, 12:51:52 pm
-the main may rape the alts wife (+1 syphilis)

But not the alt? THHH
Title: Re: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: Torben on September 28, 2011, 12:54:25 pm
ofc the fallens are all over the rapin part -.-

Title: Re: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: Vibe on September 28, 2011, 12:57:27 pm
I also want to take a shit on my alt's wheat field.
Title: Re: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: Torben on September 28, 2011, 12:59:09 pm
I also want to take a shit on my alt's wheat field.

then help me with thie revolution!  burn the alst!  long live the KNAVES!!  as we want to shit in their wheat fields and make them drink our cumeth!!  no,  wait...
Title: Re: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: B3RS3RK on September 28, 2011, 01:27:22 pm
100% Support, awesome Idea.

Since Devs are so good for roleplaying, doing this would only be natural.

I´d like that ALL the Gold from the Knave goes to the main, but the Main has to pay for everything the Knave buys.One Way Item Exchange is also pretty awesome(Although it wouldnt hurt if there was a 2way exchange...).Knave should obviously be restricted for the market.
Title: Re: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: Torben on September 28, 2011, 01:30:39 pm
by the knave only being able to use low and medium gear,  we would hopefully see lots of these on the field, with few highly armored knights.  would be cool.
if all the gold goes to main,  the upkeep,  or base price of medium to high gear would have to be upped by a huge amount imo.
Title: Re: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: Glyph on September 28, 2011, 02:26:59 pm
it should be changed to: the main may rape the alt's wife and if the alt is a woman the main has the right to film the lesbian sex between the alt and her wife. and put the tape on pornhub.com  :lol:
Title: Re: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: B3RS3RK on September 28, 2011, 02:35:36 pm
by the knave only being able to use low and medium gear,  we would hopefully see lots of these on the field, with few highly armored knights.  would be cool.
if all the gold goes to main,  the upkeep,  or base price of medium to high gear would have to be upped by a huge amount imo.

Since the Main has also to pay for everything the alt buys or repairs, it would even out.It´s basically like 2 Chars sharing one Bank account.
Title: Re: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: Torben on September 28, 2011, 05:34:40 pm
please clarify if u vote no.
Title: Re: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: Kajia on September 28, 2011, 05:51:14 pm
it's not entirely dumb.

but I would make it optional, 'cause if roleplaying and my alt is the mains daddy ... what about that? doesn't fit. or think of other role-play ideas.
maybe you can think of similar solutions which are more open to interpretation - maybe it's just a name thing?
Title: Re: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: Torben on September 28, 2011, 05:55:14 pm
hm,  actually i dont care about the roleplaying that much.  its more about linking the alt to the main so everyone knows who´s playing,  and far most the possibility of loom transfer to the main.


and seriosly:  "not entirely dumb".  wtf?
Title: Re: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: Jarlek on September 28, 2011, 06:10:17 pm
I like this!
Title: Re: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: Kajia on September 28, 2011, 06:59:21 pm
hm, I think I would not like to see my alt as an underling of my main. so I was thinking of your idea as a role-play-attempt - but it seems I was wrong. Besides I don't want people always to see who's playing - it's like masquerade.
I can imagine your idea in a STF-function-like way. Like I said, optional.

And maybe on the same base something like low-level item sharing for all alts for those people who want to see their alts as a warband (so still main remains knight or leader and pays their upkeep), you could call them MERC, and/or something else.

and seriosly:  "not entirely dumb".  wtf?
Oh, sorry about that, the german phrase "gar nicht so blöd" is not as hard as my badly translated wannabe-counterpart. I thought as you are talking about raping and such, I didn't think of you beeing offended by this, and it was honestly meant as an approval. I should have said: "nice idea, but lacks something, imho".
Title: Re: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: Torben on September 28, 2011, 07:04:36 pm
I didn't think of you beeing offended by this,

sry man,  i think i´m just looking for a fight today : D 

ill stop with the forum for now : )
Title: Re: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: Riddaren on September 28, 2011, 08:56:14 pm
Why not just make it possible to change your main character? With a cooldown of 1 month.
That would give all your alts access to both the marketplace and strategus.

I think that is the best solution by far and I don't see why it wouldn't be possible technically.
Title: Re: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: Glyph on September 28, 2011, 09:08:43 pm
Why not just make it possible to change your main character? With a cooldown of 1 month.
That would give all your alts access to both the marketplace and strategus.

I think that is the best solution by far and I don't see why it wouldn't be possible technically.
good idea!
Title: Re: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: Torben on September 28, 2011, 09:22:19 pm
i think that would compromise the "hero" -system this mod wants to create,  i.e.  every player has one hero, through whom he is known.
this knave/slave whatever thingy however would put the alts into a context with the whole system.

Title: Re: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: ThePoopy on September 28, 2011, 09:24:13 pm
i dont want ppl to know im playing when im on alt
Title: Re: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: Dehitay on September 28, 2011, 10:15:22 pm
Why not just make it possible to change your main character? With a cooldown of 1 month.
That would give all your alts access to both the marketplace and strategus.

I think that is the best solution by far and I don't see why it wouldn't be possible technically.

Wow, this is the best suggestion I've heard for a lot of the main and alt problems. I really hope the dev teams takes a look at it
Title: Re: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: Torben on September 28, 2011, 10:17:25 pm
Wow, this is the best suggestion I've heard for a lot of the main and alt problems. I really hope the dev teams takes a look at it

it has been suggested befor,  and the dev team is against it
Title: Re: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: ArchonAlarion on September 29, 2011, 05:32:01 am
I want there to be an internal structure between the main and alts within an account... So the account itself would have a certain play style. A simple example would be customizing to maximize the power of your main, vs maximizing the power of your alts.
Title: Re: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: Torben on September 30, 2011, 10:13:05 am
I want there to be an internal structure between the main and alts within an account... So the account itself would have a certain play style. A simple example would be customizing to maximize the power of your main, vs maximizing the power of your alts.

actual input,  and nice one on top.  plus 1 sir!

also:  bump!
Title: Re: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: Cepeshi on September 30, 2011, 11:19:14 am
Why not just make it possible to change your main character? With a cooldown of 1 month.
That would give all your alts access to both the marketplace and strategus.

I think that is the best solution by far and I don't see why it wouldn't be possible technically.

This is exploitable, you could just switch your main for some strat battles, make money with him or loom something, than switch to different one...IF the switch would kill the main, no problem, but Devs made it quite clear you should only have one char for strat, if you want to play different role, respec (i know it hurts, but that is why it got implemented, to offer versatility).

What i would not mind is the idea of shared goldpile...getting annoying that i cannot upkeep my alt while my main is quite fine, i cannot sell looms from alt to make money for upkeep (still yet to retire on alt :P). One way item transfer is imho also not a good idea, i mean, what else could that be used for than for looming your main. You make gen on alt, loom item, main takes over, one loom without need to actually retire your char or to pay for it, that is not cool.

I foresee people saying: but we invest time to alts, why the benefits should not be shared? If you want benefit on char, do it on him, or buy it for him.

Anyways, idea of some sort connection inbetween account characters is cool. I would totally love to see shared gold, i would not even mind if alt grinded money some small amount would go to strat to your main (but again, really tiny amount, do not make alts on same lvl as mains, as people would have no reason to play main). Again, i might seem a bit negative, but just spitting out my thoughts.   :)

And for the one way transfer, if, why not to make it the other way around? Like, you know, main to alt works, but not the other way around. With this you would prevent the possibility of equipping alt with looms, as they would be stuck with them forever, but also you could equip your alt without him actually having any money at all :)

What came to my mind while typing this: IF the dev team would liek to somehow prevent exploitations on strat, why not to make a new char class: Strat, so you would have main, alt, strat char, if the gold was shared, no problem with the strat char not having anything to wear or stuff :)
Title: Re: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: Gisbert_of_Thuringia on September 30, 2011, 12:43:49 pm
What I like:

-the alt gets the nametag (main+)sknave = Tychow_Torbensknave

-the main may rape the alts wife (+1 syphilis) - +1  :D



What I really don't like:


-the tenth shal goeth to the main (gold) - lots of people with money probs will get gold and those who are already rich get even more --> people can buy heirlooms over heirlooms

-any item the alt/knave buys has to be paid by the main - I have sooo many items with my alt, because I want to play 2h or 1h+shield instead of archery with an alt. I couldn't buy all that stuff with my main due to the higher upkeep for archery now :/

-the knave can not buy the highest tear weapons and armor. this would make high end loomes more special,  as only mains can loom them.  i like this in particular  -  Actually I like to walk around in plate sometimes with my alt. I saved alot of money for that purpose and you want to forbid that? It's actually some people's only chance to use plate once in their life ;)

-1x of gold the knave makes gets subtracted from the main  -  isn't that opposite to what you wrote before?  The main gets gold from the knave but the knave also gets gold from the main?  And by the way I need all the money I get with my main as I'd like to buy some looms when I have money (which will never happen due to the heavy arrowupkeep, thx for that devs...)

Title: Re: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: Torben on September 30, 2011, 01:12:01 pm
What I really don't like:
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well the last few suggestions werent in direct context with the first, also,  i am more proposing the general idea than the specifics. 
Title: Re: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: Belatu on September 30, 2011, 03:40:38 pm
I didnt read the thread but I voted yes because yes
Title: Re: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: Torben on September 30, 2011, 03:43:56 pm
I didnt read the thread but I voted yes because yes

thats my man ^^
Title: Re: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: Torben on October 04, 2011, 04:09:46 pm
bump
Title: Re: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: Torben on December 25, 2011, 12:08:36 am
necrophile bumpage
Title: Re: introduce the KNAVE, remove the alt.
Post by: CaptainQuantum on December 26, 2011, 12:32:05 am
I am normally against this kind of idea because it allows gold farming/leeching anonymously. However your idea ties the name of your main to your alt and so you would be discouraged for the same reason you would not leech on your main. I like this idea because it stops abuse of the system yet stops me from feeling bad from playing an alt.

So in conclusion I voted yes for this idea since I am a man of 4 alts on top of my main.