cRPG
cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: CtrlAltDe1337 on January 29, 2011, 02:37:07 am
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Now that the equipment in cRPG has changed quite a bit, I'd really like to see this, and I think it feasible. I'm just not quite sure on the proper implementation. Basically, a merc in a strategus battle should have to bring their own equipment to battle. This will make mercs more unique and valuable and help people get a reputation. Maybe you can count on one guy as a great heavy cavalryman, so you are willing to pay him lots of gold. Another might be a skilled 2 hander or archer that you can count on. Of course, this would mean you'd need to pay them a lot more gold. But you wouldn't have to purchase as much equipment for the battle.
IMO this has several benefits, in addition to making mercs more unique and not just another number. For example:
It makes things more realistic and fun, I hope at least. I know I'd like it.
It will make mercs more cautious in battle, since their equipment is there own.
Groups/clans will get more recognition, and they will be able to use their own "uniform" and use their own tactics as a squad.
Mercs will bring more variation in the equipment and weapons seen on the battlefield, and may lead to some maneuvers that take the enemy team off-guard.
Now, how to do this exactly, I'm not really sure. Maybe the easiest way is to make it just like a cRPG battle; you bring your own junk, and it can break and need repairs. Alternatively, have players buy their own stuff on strategus and use that equipment, not their cRPG stuff.
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I support this.
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I support this.
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You are confusing mercenaries with the players that represent my army here. The people that I hire are just there to represent each of my nameless soldiers.
Your idea would be fine if the mercenary that will use his own items is near the battle on the map, and uses his own tickets (if he runs out of his tickets, he can use my tickets and my stuff). Somehow like joining a battle in singleplayer, but without being forced to transfer stuff like it is right now.
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You are confusing mercenaries with the players that represent my army here. The people that I hire are just there to represent each of my nameless soldiers.
Your idea would be fine if the mercenary that will use his own items is near the battle on the map, and uses his own tickets (if he runs out of his tickets, he can use my tickets and my stuff). Somehow like joining a battle in singleplayer, but without being forced to transfer stuff like it is right now.
I love this idea, a Merc could use its own equipment only if it is next to the battle, it may also work for the commander (some "cRPG heroes" would be recognizable).
In principle the idea of operating as single player can also bring another tactical dimension;
The geographical position of the character becomes more important if he wants to participate in a battle with its equipment and troops.
For reinforcements, the commander of the reinforcement army must participate in the battle, it is blocked, it can not just "drop" of the troops and leave (even: if the player does not participate in the battle in-game, then its tickets are not involved in the battle either).
If there is a maximum number of troops by players, then they must work together to perform large-scale attack.
Also lone players become more attractive to clans, they can provide real support in the battle.
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I love this idea, a Merc could use its own equipment only if it is next to the battle, it may also work for the commander (some "cRPG heroes" would be recognizable).
In principle the idea of operating as single player can also bring another tactical dimension;
The geographical position of the character becomes more important if he wants to participate in a battle with its equipment and troops.
For reinforcements, the commander of the reinforcement army must participate in the battle, it is blocked, it can not just "drop" of the troops and leave (even: if the player does not participate in the battle in-game, then its tickets are not involved in the battle either).
If there is a maximum number of troops by players, then they must work together to perform large-scale attack.
Also lone players become more attractive to clans, they can provide real support in the battle.
Genius!!! implement!
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+1
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Perhaps as a commander you could designate your roster as "B.Y.O.G." or "Bring Your Own Gear".
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All the crafting/trading system would turn useless and we'll have the old strategus back.
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I support this.
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I support this.
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All the crafting/trading system would turn useless and we'll have the old strategus back.
I somewhat agree with you, but it will work only IF you are near the battle.
Or to nerf this, and for the good of crafting : you can bring only ONE weapon of your inventory (and only if you are near the battle).
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- Players that brought their own gear and showed up should be automatically paid the hired wage.
- Since gear gain system supposed to be way different than just buying it, gear supposed to be way more valuable.
- Commanders can choose to give their soldiers a bonus afterward.
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If I fight an army of the fallens, I want to fight an army of fallens. Not the usual costume party we get on the crpg servers. A few mercenaries that have to be close on the stratgus map to be able to bring their own stuff are fine, but if everyone is able to bring stuff, its the same as crpg with bannerbalance.
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It's good!
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If I fight an army of the fallens, I want to fight an army of fallens. Not the usual costume party we get on the crpg servers. A few mercenaries that have to be close on the stratgus map to be able to bring their own stuff are fine, but if everyone is able to bring stuff, its the same as crpg with bannerbalance.
This.
Though I remember reading something like this idea, where you could use your cRPG gear in Strat battles, but only at great risk (of it being lost if you lose). Don't know if that was still planned.
I think it's not such a good idea - makes buying gear, which is a strategic function, and planning based on who you want to hire, a little bit pointless.
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dam your right, the amount of time between strategus battles actually happening, an entire faction could get near the battle and so bring their own gear
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dam your right, the amount of time between strategus battles actually happening, an entire faction could get near the battle and so bring their own gear
They will have to be well organized, but if they all go to the same point, then someone can attack them in an other point (strategical choice)
As you said Bane, at the start i remember that chadz gave the idea of bringing is own gear but if you lose the battle you could lose some gear (by the loot). and i agree with you Leiknir.
So this idea is possible but with some restriction :
- you must be next to the battle (very close, this is the most important rule, and it's more realistic)
- you are blocked until the end of the battle
- you have the risk to lose your gear if the battle is a defeat and/or you must pay upkeep
- more restriction : you can bring only one gear
- more restriction : you can use your gear the time you have tickets (the tickets you bring in the battle).
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All the crafting/trading system would turn useless and we'll have the old strategus back.
Not really, since under either system I proposed, commanders still have to buy stuff for their soldiers--all except mercs. I suppose the main thing is this--mercs are supposed to be just that, mercenaries, not your regular soldiers. People should join factions for that, and this will help differentiate between faction members and just mercenaries. And under my second suggestion:
Alternatively, have players buy their own stuff on strategus and use that equipment, not their cRPG stuff.
You'd still have to craft your own equipment; it just comes out of your pocket instead of the commanders. This would actually help mercenaries and small clans who want to build up a few settlements and help fight with other factions.
On another note, I don't like the idea of having to be close to the battle to participate, unless its a very, very big range (like a quarter of the map). It sounds nice, but I think it will be unfeasible in execution.
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On another note, I don't like the idea of having to be close to the battle to participate, unless its a very, very big range (like a quarter of the map). It sounds nice, but I think it will be unfeasible in execution.
You can always represent a nameless soldier of my army (current strategus system) without being close.
But if f you want to be a mercenary in strategus, you need your mercenary equipment and tickets there, to use this stuff you need to get into range of the battle. Would lead to real merc-contracts, not only "LOL TAKE 10000 TROOPS AND SMASH" possible. Also, as a good merc you dont need to produce items, you can buy them. If you are a bad merc, you dont deserve good equipment anyways. If the "mercenary" player runs out of his tickets, he can continue to fight as nameless soldier of my army.
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If I fight an army of the fallens, I want to fight an army of fallens. Not the usual costume party we get on the crpg servers. A few mercenaries that have to be close on the stratgus map to be able to bring their own stuff are fine, but if everyone is able to bring stuff, its the same as crpg with bannerbalance.
Yup.
If I select equipment we have themed battle. If everyone brings his own we have cRPG.
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Yeh, we would need a button that allows you to tag along with another player as part of their band or else coordinating movements of everyone togetehr for battle would be impossible. So mmore like singl player warbands and each plyer is like those heroes you recruited with the other tags being random mercs who get just assigned equipment.
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I'm with Leiknir in this one!
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Genious. I'd love this. :D
My boss never has the gear I'm best wearin'.