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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Game Balance Discussion => Topic started by: bertas on September 21, 2011, 07:21:44 pm

Title: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: bertas on September 21, 2011, 07:21:44 pm
Poll plz
Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: Gisbert_of_Thuringia on September 21, 2011, 07:28:53 pm
The possibilities to choose up there aren't really amazing. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: Vibe on September 21, 2011, 07:52:49 pm
I picked the last option because it is lol.
Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: Bulzur on September 21, 2011, 09:58:32 pm
I picked the last option because it is lol.
Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: Bobthehero on September 21, 2011, 10:11:10 pm
I picked the last option because it is lol.
Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: Siboire on September 21, 2011, 11:40:24 pm
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but seriously, it got buffed. No need to use a longbow to do pierce damage anymore.
Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: Bobthehero on September 22, 2011, 12:18:28 am
Tu l'aimes bin le mini-confus hein?
Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: Siboire on September 22, 2011, 10:52:37 pm
Lol le chat a l'air juste débile! Criss je ladore xD
Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: bertas on September 23, 2011, 04:41:00 pm
2 pierce bodkin? 30 cut longbow?! it is rearly silly with no pierce bows... He isnt using arrow like knife...
Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: v/onMega on September 23, 2011, 05:26:47 pm
Last time archers were able to take 50% health with a shouldershot was many months ago (21 str 7 If 66 body armor).

What is this thread about?

It got buffed MASSIVELY in case u are not a broke ass monk.


Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: Gurnisson on September 23, 2011, 05:31:49 pm
Better, much better. Too good, unfortunately. :|
Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: sWalker on September 23, 2011, 10:52:20 pm
All bows except for the longbow got a deserved buff, and the longbow was fine as it was(the sWalker uses a longbow).  They are all viable options now and well balanced.  They are no longer UP and have not entered the realm of OP either.  The Dev's did a great job with both the balancing of archery vs. the other classes and balancing the bows that archers have to choose from as well.
Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: OttomanSniper on September 23, 2011, 11:21:49 pm
2 Hander :  :cry:
Archery : NERF

1) Bow damage nerfed. (2H :cry: again...)
2) Missile speed nerfed. (2H :cry: again...)
3) Item repair nerfed and x5 not enough for archery repairs. (2H :cry: again...)
4) Bow damage nerfed again. (2H :cry: again...)
5) Number of arrow nerfed. (2H :cry: again...)
6) Arrow damage nerfed.  (2H :cry: again...)
7) Shot accuracy nerfed.  (2H :cry: again...)
8) Jump shot removed.  (2H :cry: again...)
9) Horse archery removed.  (2H :cry: again...)
10) I thin next nerf, remove archery but dont give free respec. (2H :D)

I would recommend leave archery.  :wink: I leave archery today. I'm horse lancer now.  :D Archery has die.
Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: v/onMega on September 23, 2011, 11:32:11 pm
Archery is fucking OP now... shitfaces just have no idea how to use it...as always.
Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: Siboire on September 24, 2011, 01:08:13 am
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Now every noob is going for the new OP class. We're back at CS.
I guess it's time to find some other games while they fix this retardness (if they ever do).
Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: OttomanSniper on September 24, 2011, 08:33:07 am
-Archer : x5 - 5 minute and get 1500 xp lose 2000xp (average)
-Horse Archer : x5 - 5 minute get 1500 xp lose 3100 xp (average) (I lose 400k one day)
-Missile speed is changed and i lose my fine-tuning. Arrows dont go my calculated point. (Dont change missile speed again this option kill archery)
Especially this reasons enough for leave archery for me.
Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: Xant on September 24, 2011, 08:50:46 am
Archery is fucking OP now... shitfaces just have no idea how to use it...as always.

Dude, it's Kapikulu. You don't expect them to be reasonable, do you?
Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: v/onMega on September 24, 2011, 09:06:05 am
Dude, it's Kapikulu. You don't expect them to be reasonable, do you?

Regardless of the clan....this thread is useless....

I dont expect anything reasonable here, no, and my old friendader is nr1 on this list.
Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: OttomanSniper on September 24, 2011, 10:08:13 am
Dude, it's Kapikulu. You don't expect them to be reasonable, do you?

Do I have to play as an archer?

Xant chattering was here... Are you knowledgeable about everything? All topic in the Xant.
Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: Xant on September 24, 2011, 10:15:30 am
I am knowledgeable about everything yes, thank you for asking.
Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: Teeth on September 24, 2011, 12:57:47 pm
They are still on the fuckin roofs. They deal shittons of damage. Which is fine, as long as they arent on their roof.
Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: Gravoth_iii on September 24, 2011, 02:03:02 pm
Get... a .... shield. voted for option 3.
Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: Leshma on September 24, 2011, 02:39:30 pm
Get... a .... shield. voted for option 3.

Old Board shield is ugly as fuck, old heater shield won't save you from good archers (it leaves huge portion of your legs uncovered...)
Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: PikeDan on September 26, 2011, 11:34:27 am
Old Board shield is ugly as fuck, old heater shield won't save you from good archers (it leaves huge portion of your legs uncovered...)
You really care about how a shield looks?

I thought shields were meant to shield the guy behind them from arrows and melee. (At least 'till I chop it to bits with a Great Long Bardiche.) That being said, archery issues are typically easily fixed by shielders. You're a shielder? Hurrah, keep your head on a swivel and your shield up, 2h/non-hoplite Polearmer? Stand behind your shielder, he's there to tank for you.

Also, you're forgetting about Kite shields, Plain Kite Shield covers most of your legs satisfactory(As does the rest of the Kite Shield family).
Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: Bonze on September 26, 2011, 09:16:29 pm
Fuck  this stupid poll. Now everybody floats over the ground in all directions with 7 or more athletic  and shot high accurate projectiles  like a modern semi assault rifle. Finally the  target group of this mod are prepubescent css kids with epileptic syndroms.
Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 26, 2011, 09:17:25 pm
Fuck  this stupid poll. Now everybody floats over the ground in all directions with 7 or more athletic  and shot high accurate projectiles  like a modern semi assault rifle. Finally the  target group of this mod are prepubescent css kids with epileptic syndroms.

Lrn2play or gtfo
Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: Teeth on September 26, 2011, 09:20:31 pm
Get... a .... shield. voted for option 3.
The bulk of me getting hit by archers happens when I am fighting in melee. Even as shielder I get ripped apart by archers. They do to much damage, especially compared to the damage required in melee to kill a plater.
Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: Bonze on September 26, 2011, 09:33:03 pm
Lrn2play or gtfo

Says the guy with poor K/D   :lol:
Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 26, 2011, 09:34:29 pm
Says the guy with poor K/D   :lol:

Last time I was playing, My shielder was consistently in the top 10 of the team in a server with over 100 people playing, while that is not stellar, I would hardly call that a "poor KDR" when I am getting scores like 7/3 or 9/4.
Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: Teeth on September 26, 2011, 09:45:16 pm
Last time I was playing, My shielder was consistently in the top 10 of the team in a server with over 100 people playing, while that is not stellar, I would hardly call that a "poor KDR" when I am getting scores like 7/3 or 9/4.
poor KDR

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Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: Lorenzo_of_Iberia on September 26, 2011, 10:22:21 pm
I have a nice shielder alt and he seems fine from archers, the main point to remember is to point the shield in the direction from which archers are firing from :P if they have multiple angles then you have to wonder how you got into such a position ;)

on the subject of KD's who the hell cares? :P Having a nice high KD is all good and well but my build often comes out negative because I spend all map chasing off and deterring lancers who would drop all the 'pro' players high kd's significantly. I may have a low KD but I know many more team deaths would occur if I dont play my subtle part ;)
Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: Xant on September 27, 2011, 01:18:33 pm
if they have multiple angles then you have to wonder how you got into such a position ;)

By playing c-RPG? How're you going to magically stop ten thousand archers from spreading out?
Title: Re: [Poll]Archery is Worse or Better for Now?
Post by: Lorenzo_of_Iberia on September 27, 2011, 02:02:41 pm
By playing c-RPG? How're you going to magically stop ten thousand archers from spreading out?

archers going rambo on flanks can be taken out by cav, and even if they are dodging and somehow playing rambo and not dying they should be too focused on dodging cav to be firing at flanks. In village maps archers have an easier time but in this case they have outmanoeuvred you and your team hasnt responded correctly (which is fine) it just means you are getting flanked which is part of the game. In this case its a matter of not having a plan and responding to a threat that maybe someone should have called out.

I dont wanna go through every scenario but basically it either comes down to your team not responding to archers roaming about getting free shots, or your team has just been defeated through solid tactics and now you have to somehow convince your pubbie team to also come up with a plan :P

But really if you have 3 archers firing at you and its not the end of the map, then your team is majorly screwing up somewhere (I suspect cavalry) and if you are losing out because of it then maybe you should sort them out with a real plan :P