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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: highglandeur on September 19, 2011, 06:11:09 pm

Title: unexpected indulgence
Post by: highglandeur on September 19, 2011, 06:11:09 pm
It took me some hard time to accept the untolerance of admins towards people griefing them or towards intentional tk, leeching or basic trolling.
I figured it was something that culturally made us a bit different. I concluded I probably took for a lack of tolerance what others would only see as basic discipline and organisation, and that I will accept this difference or stop playing.
I was recently surprised to witness the indulgence of the same group of admins toward racist comments and even offenses. No kicks no bans for racism, only a shy "mute", very shy indeed, hence my confusion...
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: a_bear_irl on September 19, 2011, 06:19:34 pm
once i was a boy in a corn field, scrabbling in the dirt for a penny dropped by a careless farmer. being a corn farmer, and thus a poor man in the presubsidy era, it surprised me that he was so careless with his change. regardless, i used his change to change my own fortunes. that day i purchased a 9 inch purple dildo at the local cornerstore.
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: Bjord on September 19, 2011, 06:21:10 pm
W-What.. Are you trying to say?
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: highglandeur on September 19, 2011, 06:27:36 pm
mkay trolls, highglandure is saying: if you are harsh mister, be harsh mister to everyone, or the mister you are not harsh with will look as your friend mister.
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: Bjord on September 19, 2011, 06:30:24 pm
I see, so what you're saying is that in order to disassociate with certain people you are now rude and hostile to them instead of just avoiding to talk to them or the likes?

Or, in order to your answering a question or in some way communicate with them to not be misinterpreted as friendly behaviour you are rude instead?

And you couldn't have said this without being immensely vague?
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: highglandeur on September 19, 2011, 06:38:32 pm
sorry mate, i just thought I was clear, I thought you were taking the piss I, i didnt mean to be rude to you, not that way.
I have no intention to dissociate from anyone, not from you either, I don't know you and you have been quite inactive ingame anyways, why would I?
I didn't want to be vague, I just meant to say: please admins stop being indulgent to racism on server because it spoils my day, that's all mate.
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: Leshma on September 19, 2011, 06:42:49 pm
Does this have anything to do with Panos? :D
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: Turkhammer on September 19, 2011, 06:47:55 pm
I agree with you High.  I don't like it either.  Most of the ones doing it are cowards that would never drieam of saying those things in public.  There is no excuse for it.  I think the admins ignore it from complacency or the normal human desire to go along to get along.  I think it's an admin responsibilty to make an example of those making those comments with a perma ban to make a point that it won't be tolerated.
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: Bjord on September 19, 2011, 06:50:28 pm
sorry mate, i just thought I was clear, I thought you were taking the piss I, i didnt mean to be rude to you, not that way.
I have no intention to dissociate from anyone, not from you either, I don't know you and you have been quite inactive ingame anyways, why would I?
I didn't want to be vague, I just meant to say: please admins stop being indulgent to racism on server because it spoils my day, that's all mate.

You doesn't necessarily have to mean you.

You as in people in general. But yeah, no hard feelings. :wink:
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: karasu on September 19, 2011, 07:01:31 pm
You should all know by now that is a given fact that admins in this mod (at least some of them) are too afraid to act like one, risking to lose their rank like others did, or simply don't care (which is also sad, no need to say names).

Just use the mute by your own discretion when someones messages are too much, I do it quite often.

Cheerio
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on September 19, 2011, 07:14:49 pm
He's probably talking about the Turk bashing some people indulged in yesterday. Fueled in part by Panos.
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: Phazey on September 19, 2011, 07:15:27 pm
You should all know by now that is a given fact that admins in this mod (at least some of them) are too afraid to act like one...

Hey, how about cutting admins some slack. There is a thin line between muting, kicking or even banning (?!) people for inappropriate chat usage and undue censorship.

This is the internet. Sorry if you get confronted with other people.

Blame the admins... geez....  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: Leshma on September 19, 2011, 07:16:39 pm
Admins are soft...
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: Phazey on September 19, 2011, 07:19:49 pm
Pffrrt easily said you little troll.  :wink:

Admins aint soft. Some of you players are taking the whole peasants with pitchforks and torches roleplaying too seriously...
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on September 19, 2011, 07:20:27 pm
Admins are soft...

Some are soft, some are non existent, some are harsh, some do a decent job, all are criticized, all don't like it, in the end all won't give a fuck.
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: Corwin on September 19, 2011, 07:39:34 pm
Admins are soft...
nuffenlover...
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: highglandeur on September 19, 2011, 07:41:40 pm
You should all know by now that is a given fact that admins in this mod (at least some of them) are too afraid to act like one, risking to lose their rank like others did, or simply don't care (which is also sad, no need to say names).

Just use the mute by your own discretion when someones messages are too much, I do it quite often.

Cheerio

I wish we were all wise enough to do that, and let the haters type and type on a chat where it is never read until their venom is drained...
Unfortunately wisdom is a rare and distant thing in any of us.
I will transfer 50K to your account asap!


"undue censorship": point taken but chat is gonna be hot hot hot
"This is the internet. Sorry if you get confronted with other people": say that to some admins too
"Hey, how about cutting admins some slack": I know sorry mate, I will soon I promise
Phasey I love you ok? No less than others. Don't take this as a personnal attack, just saying.


Does this have anything to do with Panos? :D
Leshma you can read in my head so don't ask, just saying I have nothing against thomek ok, and thats not why he is not mentionned.
If I had something to tell an admin I would use pm, i was just telling all admins: please find a way to be more consistent, write some rules if you have to.
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: Phazey on September 19, 2011, 08:02:09 pm
Phazey I love you ok?
Right back at ya. :)
Careful though, there is a guy out there with the name Phasey (22nd i think). That's not me! Darn copycats...  :wink:

Next time someone is being really racist repeatedly, just screenshot the guy and make a banthread. If it's bad enough and enough evidence presented, admins will probably react with a temp- or essay ban.
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: highglandeur on September 19, 2011, 08:23:53 pm
I know but cba to screenshot and shit and i'm not a rat agent kujan!
And sorry for the mispelling phazey, supreme lack of respect please don't ban me ;)
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: VVarlord on September 19, 2011, 08:26:36 pm
Have you ever been on when tenne is online? Jesus that guy just changes maps mutes kicks bans all over the place.
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: Bulzur on September 19, 2011, 08:34:51 pm
Have you ever been on when tenne is online? Jesus that guy just changes maps mutes kicks bans all over the place.

Some people might think you're serious and saying the truth, please add a little spoiler or smilie when writing such sentences.


Also... i'm a nuffen lover. And i stand by it. But in general, the ingame chat is pretty clean in Eu1 and Eu2. Dunno about the rest.
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: highglandeur on September 19, 2011, 08:37:32 pm
please god chadz close this post things are gonna get ugly soon.
please admin angels write some rules or use the venerable kick-kick-ban avaa hakas guidelines for consistency and peace or stop spec and let votekicks and bans on and play with us, only when the system doesn't work will you have to use your feared powers.
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: highglandeur on September 19, 2011, 08:45:38 pm
Some are soft, some are non existent, some are harsh, some do a decent job, all are criticized, all don't like it, in the end all won't give a fuck.
Murmi 50K for you too this time ;)
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: highglandeur on September 19, 2011, 08:46:59 pm
I agree with you High.  I don't like it either.  Most of the ones doing it are cowards that would never dream of saying those things in public.
And 50K for that one hammer nice one!
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: Vibe on September 19, 2011, 08:48:07 pm
Hey, how about cutting admins some slack. There is a thin line between muting, kicking or even banning (?!) people for inappropriate chat usage and undue censorship.

This is the internet. Sorry if you get confronted with other people.

Blame the admins... geez....  :rolleyes:

I think what karasu meant is that admins are afraid to use powers to full extent so they don't get their ass handed to themselves by the angry mob community.
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: highglandeur on September 19, 2011, 08:53:20 pm
I think what karasu meant is that admins are afraid to use powers to full extent so they don't get their ass handed to themselves by the angry mob community.

Not 50K for that, though I agree if they were clear rules the angry mob will stop confusing admin duty and admin behavior.
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: karasu on September 19, 2011, 10:34:00 pm
They know what I mean, I've been explicit more than enough times already, costing me ninja post deletes and some really sad feedbacks.

It's never enough to say this, "Thank the gods Tenne is admin now". It's the only time when I feel I can play almost bullshit free in a full server since I know for sure that even if he's fighting and see's a "chat to admin" text he stops the fight and solves the problem straight away.

Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: RandomDude on September 19, 2011, 11:11:42 pm
sorry mate, i just thought I was clear, I thought you were taking the piss I, i didnt mean to be rude to you, not that way.
I have no intention to dissociate from anyone, not from you either, I don't know you and you have been quite inactive ingame anyways, why would I?
I didn't want to be vague, I just meant to say: please admins stop being indulgent to racism on server because it spoils my day, that's all mate.

i agree

usually eu servers are pretty good in the terms of topics of conversation

sometimes its unclear whether the text is offensive or not, sometimes it is so i would urge players to use "i" chat to let an admin know that it is offensive - even if it may be obvious to you
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on September 19, 2011, 11:15:20 pm
I wonder what would happen if I called someone white trash for trolling purposes? Not that I would.
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on September 19, 2011, 11:19:12 pm
I wonder what would happen if I called someone white trash for trolling purposes? Not that I would.

Probably nothing.
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: Teeth on September 19, 2011, 11:22:37 pm
nuffenlover...
I'm a nuffenlover and I'm proud of it! We're here, we're que..... oh wait.
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: Leshma on September 19, 2011, 11:23:28 pm
I wonder what would happen if I called someone white trash for trolling purposes? Not that I would.

Well, we're not in America...
Title: Re: unexpected indulgence
Post by: kukufarikki on September 20, 2011, 12:23:41 am
once i was a boy in a corn field, scrabbling in the dirt for a penny dropped by a careless farmer. being a corn farmer, and thus a poor man in the presubsidy era, it surprised me that he was so careless with his change. regardless, i used his change to change my own fortunes. that day i purchased a 9 inch purple dildo at the local cornerstore.

:clap:

if an admin mutes for it, they are a good admin. if the player decides to leave and come back to be unmuted and continue, then they deserve a kick.