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Title: Will there be a free respec given the difficulty changes ?
Post by: Kafein on September 19, 2011, 12:29:22 pm
I think many NA cav were using courser and arab with the bare minimum riding skill, and I was using the +3 arab warhorse I just bought (:evil:) with 6 riding.

Will there be a free respec for those poor souls ? Those difficulty changes make sense but I don't want to loose all this hard-earned xp, and I guess nobody wants.

Also did the dev team tought about lowering horse prices a bit, at least those in the destrier-large warhorse range ? After all, the price of armored horses comes from the armor, the horse itself has less value than a stallion like the courser or the arab warhorse.
Title: Re: Will there be a free respec given the difficulty changes ?
Post by: Prpavi on September 19, 2011, 12:33:21 pm
well how can you give the respec due to market being introduced and many ppl (including myself) having allot more looms than generations.

i deleted my gen 11 char and gave all my looms away few months ago, returned, got some looms back, sold some loom points and now i have a full set again and im only gen 4 on this char.
Title: Re: Will there be a free respec given the difficulty changes ?
Post by: Tennenoth on September 19, 2011, 12:35:00 pm
The patch hasn't been calibrated properly yet!?! Let the devs work for crying out loud, they're trying new stuff with WSE and just because they didn't get something right to begin with, doesn't mean that they're going to leave it like that does it?

Every single time there is a new patch, they work and work and work until things are sorted and most of the time one class gets a hit to the face for a couple of days and everyone calls for a free respec/free heirloom change etc etc and every single time it gets sorted. Have some patience!
Title: Re: Will there be a free respec given the difficulty changes ?
Post by: Fips on September 19, 2011, 01:09:23 pm
The patch hasn't been calibrated properly yet!?! Let the devs work for crying out loud, they're trying new stuff with WSE and just because they didn't get something right to begin with, doesn't mean that they're going to leave it like that does it?

Every single time there is a new patch, they work and work and work until things are sorted and most of the time one class gets a hit to the face for a couple of days and everyone calls for a free respec/free heirloom change etc etc and every single time it gets sorted. Have some patience!

But u gotta admit that it would only be fair to the cav. Most of them used arabian or the courser and now u need 2 or 1 riding-skill more. So if they want to keep it that way something like a free respec for everyone would be cool. Ok, they could just switch to another horse until they retire or just do a normal respec, but there are probably a lot of players with endbuilds who can't use their horsies anymore and that is just annoying.

You keep telling us to be patient because they maybe change it later...but why should they make such a big change to the game if they don't attend to stick with it?^^
Title: Re: Will there be a free respec given the difficulty changes ?
Post by: Espu on September 19, 2011, 01:17:15 pm
No free respecs.

they could just switch to another horse until they retire or just do a normal respec
Title: Re: Will there be a free respec given the difficulty changes ?
Post by: Leshma on September 19, 2011, 01:18:30 pm
At this point free respec for you cav cry babies would be reasonable, but heirloom reset without gold reset is absolutely idiotic. Heirloom reset can only go with full wipe cause now we have ze marketplace...
Title: Re: Will there be a free respec given the difficulty changes ?
Post by: Torben on September 19, 2011, 01:25:09 pm
u need 2 or 1 riding-skill more.

2 and 3! riding skill more.  also the worth of the horses has been decimated so it actually sso a trade for one of those horses is unlikely.

on the other hand any decent dedicated cav should have 6/7 riding.  although  i wish i wouldnt have respecced twice this month just to end up with a fucked build,  i must say this was a good step.
Title: Re: Will there be a free respec given the difficulty changes ?
Post by: Native_ATS on September 19, 2011, 01:26:42 pm
The patch hasn't been calibrated properly yet!?! Let the devs work for crying out loud, they're trying new stuff with WSE and just because they didn't get something right to begin with, doesn't mean that they're going to leave it like that does it?

Every single time there is a new patch, they work and work and work until things are sorted and most of the time one class gets a hit to the face for a couple of days and everyone calls for a free respec/free heirloom change etc etc and every single time it gets sorted. Have some patience!
No they dont fix shit after a patch. Look at throwing, it was nerffed to shit and only now are they trying to fix it. It is still shit, idc what you say, there is no way throwing is as good as any other class. 100% waste of time. Bows where nerffed again? Cav was nerffed again (yay i hate op cav)
but its ok, they nerffed xbows too. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Will there be a free respec given the difficulty changes ?
Post by: Sultan Eren on September 19, 2011, 01:30:09 pm
This is a must.
Title: Re: Will there be a free respec given the difficulty changes ?
Post by: Kafein on September 19, 2011, 01:56:25 pm
The patch hasn't been calibrated properly yet!?! Let the devs work for crying out loud, they're trying new stuff with WSE and just because they didn't get something right to begin with, doesn't mean that they're going to leave it like that does it?

Every single time there is a new patch, they work and work and work until things are sorted and most of the time one class gets a hit to the face for a couple of days and everyone calls for a free respec/free heirloom change etc etc and every single time it gets sorted. Have some patience!

I already know this. But if the changes are kept, which is fine for me (read : I'm happy with the new difficulty values), then the only way to "get it right" is to hand off at least a free respec. Or maybe take back all the heirloomed items that had their difficulty changed and give the corresponding amount of heirloom points as a refund.

The possibility to use another horse before respeccing doesn't solve the problem with heirlooms. I don't feel like I was using an OP item given it's price and frailty. In fact, horses weren't the best thing to heirloom for cavmen.

Anyway I sit on a big pile of gold (otherwise I couldn't use a horse, what a nice game) and earn money with trading. I will probably sell my horse for peanuts and buy the next FOTM +3 item if the nerf is really that hard :?
Title: Re: Will there be a free respec given the difficulty changes ?
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on September 19, 2011, 02:08:41 pm
I'd like a free reset considering last night I re-distributed my characters skills to become a 1h cav, using arabian warhorse, only to wake up and find I need 7 riding instead of the 4 I had already allotted. Bollocks I say!
Title: Re: Will there be a free respec given the difficulty changes ?
Post by: Xant on September 19, 2011, 02:12:46 pm
No free respecs.
Title: Re: Will there be a free respec given the difficulty changes ?
Post by: Leshma on September 19, 2011, 02:13:42 pm
No free respecs.
Title: Re: Will there be a free respec given the difficulty changes ?
Post by: Siiem on September 19, 2011, 02:14:22 pm
No free respecs
no free respecs
Title: Re: Will there be a free respec given the difficulty changes ?
Post by: Kafein on September 19, 2011, 02:16:20 pm
How strange, two 2h and a notorious cav hater  :lol:
Title: Re: Will there be a free respec given the difficulty changes ?
Post by: Xant on September 19, 2011, 02:18:52 pm
Wut? And the point is: What's the point of keeping saying "I want I want I want" when Espu already said "no."
Title: Re: Will there be a free respec given the difficulty changes ?
Post by: Kafein on September 19, 2011, 02:28:40 pm
Wut? And the point is: What's the point of keeping saying "I want I want I want" when Espu already said "no."

I'm not saying "I want I want I want"

Anyway I sit on a big pile of gold (otherwise I couldn't use a horse, what a nice game) and earn money with trading. I will probably sell my horse for peanuts and buy the next FOTM +3 item if the nerf is really that hard :?

Out of the people that can't use their heirloomed horses, not many are as lucky as me. In the past when there was difficulty changes, we had free respecs (not in pre-january versions though). I don't see why it wouldn't apply here. I can deal with it, but I don't understand why there will be no free respecs if these changes are kept. The discussion ends here. This post is to clarify the previous one since it seems needed. Anyway, what's your point polluting a thread you have nothing to do about ?
Title: Re: Will there be a free respec given the difficulty changes ?
Post by: Xant on September 19, 2011, 02:49:21 pm
Did I say you're saying "I want I want I want"?
Title: Re: Will there be a free respec given the difficulty changes ?
Post by: Varyag on September 19, 2011, 05:59:49 pm
The Xbows were nerfed so hard! OMG I am gonna cry....lolz :lol:

P.S. Oh, and Xant, u dirty troll, get the hell out of here.
Title: Re: Will there be a free respec given the difficulty changes ?
Post by: Cheesecake on September 19, 2011, 06:19:02 pm
i one handed cav and i approve of the changes :)

the self bump when horsebumps is a little much, but ill get used to it.  I heard that was unintentional even....

Also I like that bows have some accuracy back , even though now it messes my aim up, since im used to it being slow as shit now.

+1 chadz +1
Title: Re: Will there be a free respec given the difficulty changes ?
Post by: Akryn on September 19, 2011, 06:21:16 pm
Before I went to sleep before patch day, I had a few offers on the marketplace. I woke up to find Arabian Warhorses nerfed and with me having 2 Champion Arabian Warhorses off transactions.

I don't want to get rid of both, because that's really uneeded, and I do still plan on using one of them, I would just like to change one of them into something else like a +3 Heavy Lance.
Title: Re: Will there be a free respec given the difficulty changes ?
Post by: dado on September 19, 2011, 06:25:31 pm
WIPE IS WHAT I NEEEEEEEEEEEEEED !!!!!!!
Title: Re: Will there be a free respec given the difficulty changes ?
Post by: El_Infante on September 19, 2011, 07:44:27 pm
WIPE IS WHAT I NEEEEEEEEEEEEEED !!!!!!!

I vote for that. Database wipe for all. (I am gen13, a full loomed guy)
Title: Re: Will there be a free respec given the difficulty changes ?
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on September 19, 2011, 07:48:29 pm
+1 to wipe
Title: Re: Will there be a free respec given the difficulty changes ?
Post by: Overdriven on September 19, 2011, 07:55:19 pm
Hell no to a wipe.

Plus I believe the point in respec/market place was so that the devs never had to do a full wipe again.
Title: Re: Will there be a free respec given the difficulty changes ?
Post by: Dezilagel on September 19, 2011, 08:39:48 pm
I would not like it, but I would certainly continue playing. Because Skill always matters much more then Gens and Looms, and after a wipe there would be NOTHING left than Skill.

...and ranged.

Whoops!  :P