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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: bleyz on January 23, 2011, 01:31:05 am
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Vote away!!! :D
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Dude it's not our choice, whoever decides to host one first (given proper equipment) wins.
Oh, and Dallas isn't west coast bro.
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Dude it's not our choice, whoever decides to host one first (given proper equipment) wins.
Oh, and Dallas isn't west coast bro.
True Dallas isn't west coast but its still more west then east. In fact it's about 1000 miles closer to me then the Chicago servers. This poll is about finding a location to host a server that would benefit a lot of people.
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Seattle was already offered. Haven't heard any offers from anywhere else. Have heard mention ingame of a possible Vancouver server as well but I forget who it was now and that was a month ago. Either way those are prime for me - I'd donate!
But this isn't a real choise issue afaik. It's all based on who steps up and actually makes it happen, and us throwing money at them to lessen the load.
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I've heard from Gorath that he got good ping with the Dallas server, and he's in Washington.
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True Dallas isn't west coast but its still more west then east. In fact it's about 1000 miles closer to me then the Chicago servers. This poll is about finding a location to host a server that would benefit a lot of people.
Not really, Dallas is mid-south. It's in no way on the western part of the US, in fact I think I would get a better ping on Chicago servers than Dallas, and I live as far west as possible (other than Hawaii of course).
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Not really, Dallas is mid-south. It's in no way on the western part of the US, in fact I think I would get a better ping on Chicago servers than Dallas, and I live as far west as possible (other than Hawaii of course).
If you hadn't figured it out yet, it's not really about you, it's whats best for the majority. Let's look at numbers here.
California has a population of 36,000,000, Texas 24,000,000, Washington 6,000,00, British Columbia (West Canada) Population is around 4,500,000, and Alaska has a population around 690,000 of which you are probably the only person representing the M&B. I'd say that a server that suits a VAST majority would be much better bet to please the Western population.
If you look at the current results from the poll you'll see a tie between 3 major US choices. It seem to me a middle ground between them would be the best choice. Oh look Salt Lake City is about equal distance from LA, Seattle, and Dallas Texas. :rolleyes:
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If you hadn't figured it out yet, it's not really about you, it's whats best for the majority. Let's look at numbers here.
California has a population of 36,000,000, Texas 24,000,000, Washington 6,000,00, British Columbia (West Canada) Population is around 4,500,000, and Alaska has a population around 690,000 of which you are probably the only person representing the M&B. I'd say that a server that suits a VAST majority would be much better bet to please the Western population.
If you look at the current results from the poll you'll see a tie between 3 major US choices. It seem to me a middle ground between them would be the best choice. Oh look Salt Lake City is about equal distance from LA, Seattle, and Dallas Texas. :rolleyes:
I second this guys vote for Seattle - it really does seem the best choice.
So Seattle it is! Awesome, that was easy! Thanks for coming out guys! We need to set up a donation acct for Gorath and see this get rolling.
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I'm definitely not against Dallas, but it's a bit silly to call it a "West Coast" server when it's the same distance from New York City as it is from San Francisco.
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I only refer to west coast server because in my mind it's either vancouver or seattle for placement. Selfish opinion there, but to each his own. I'm not even sure if the others are technically east coast, just call them that as comparison.
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In my mind, Chicago's pretty much East Coast as far as game servers are considered. It's on the border of Eastern time and East Coast players have half the ping of West Coast players.
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Just from looking at the poll it's getting more and more obvious that Seattle is a minority choice. No surprise really.
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If Bush got in twice I think Seattle can get in once.
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If Bush got in twice I think Seattle can get in once.
When did this turn political?
In any case Seattle isn't the worst option on that poll. If Gorath decides to host in Seattle, hell I'll benefit from it.
But I still can't help trying to get him to think of the majority of players he'll be leaving out. People from the Seattle/BC as well as East, West , and South would all benefit from a server in the SLC/Boise area. That's all I'm trying to point out.
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Just greedy for a really low ping here is all. Completely biased and not thinking of anything as a whole. I of course see your point.
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If you hadn't figured it out yet, it's not really about you, it's whats best for the majority. Let's look at numbers here.
California has a population of 36,000,000, Texas 24,000,000, Washington 6,000,00, British Columbia (West Canada) Population is around 4,500,000, and Alaska has a population around 690,000 of which you are probably the only person representing the M&B. I'd say that a server that suits a VAST majority would be much better bet to please the Western population.
If you look at the current results from the poll you'll see a tie between 3 major US choices. It seem to me a middle ground between them would be the best choice. Oh look Salt Lake City is about equal distance from LA, Seattle, and Dallas Texas. :rolleyes:
It's not about numbers, it's about having well-spaced out servers. The current placement of 5 Chicago servers is absolutely ridiculous, and Scott should have never opened up his server (and chadz never allowed it), but regardless, Seattle should be on the map first, then maybe someone can put up a Dallas server, that way we would have west/east/south. But east/south is just as ridiculous an idea as the 5 Chicago servers, east/west would be a much better contrast.
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You guys really think NA has the population to support another NA server? We already have 4 of them, and they are rarely full, except for 1.
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dallas?! no thanks. Us western Canadian folks would like something a little farther north than that. Im all for the Seattle idea
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You guys really think NA has the population to support another NA server? We already have 4 of them, and they are rarely full, except for 1.
We should petition chadz to shut down Scott's server, then we would have more people to spare.
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We should petition chadz to shut down Scott's server, then we would have more people to spare.
Not gonna touch that.
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I'd be willing to bet that a lot of what drives people away from CRPG is the lack of Western servers. I know for me that during peak hours I consistently see spikes of up to 300 ping on the Chicago servers. It's just about unplayable. How can anyone expect a community to grow around a niche mod if you are only providing decent gaming experience for a fraction of the country? It just won't happen.
Now if a mistake happens, and a server goes up that isn't geared toward the majority of this mod's western community, it's going to slow it's growth, or downright drive away people whom might have otherwise provided needed servers/resources for the communities growth.
Again I can't stress enough that North/West Canada(and the only person playing M&B in Alaska) represents a very small portion of the Western population. I understand wanting to have lowest possible ping, but if you think of it in terms of community growth, ask yourself if you would you be willing to sacrifice a 30 ping for a 60 ping so that the majority could have a 60 ping as well? This is all I'm proposing and it's really not unreasonable. A Seattle server should be heavily considered later when more of Native players are drawn in to play!
But for the time being you have to realize there are just more people living in the South/West then up the North and meeting the needs of majority should be goal with this server. It can only strengthen the community.
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Anchorage, Alaska :o
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Infrastructure wise and player base wise, I'd suggest LA/Sanjose or Dallas.
Would benefit the most people and wow some bias in this thread.
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Infrastructure wise and player base wise, I'd suggest LA/Sanjose or Dallas.
Would benefit the most people and wow some bias in this thread.
Yea it's generally the minority with the loudest voice who gets his way in the US...
I'm actually impressed with the results of the Poll. It's showing exactly what I wanted. More player base in the South West and Central US, giving a more Central location for a server the maximum coverage for all areas. Most polls on forums don't represent any true measure as people can manipulate them, in this case, unless you own multiple copies of M&B I don't see that happening.
I'll be very interested to see where Gorath decides to host his server; if it is indeed Seattle I won't be disappointed, although I believe those in Dallas area might.
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Anchorage, Alaska :o
Why isn't this a poll option? Obviously the clear winner.
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It makes absolutely no sense to have 4 Chicago servers. Share the love.
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Sounds like Gorath is seriously thinking about hosting one in the Seattle area which is great. I don't see the point of a Dallas server, that isn't a whole lot closer to the west side than Chicago. Chicago already serves midwestern and East Coasters just fine, we definitely need something actually close to the west coast.
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Well, since I live in Canada B.C I would prefer Seattle. It would benefit all the Canadian players rather then Texas for example.
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Well, since I live in Canada B.C I would prefer Seattle. It would benefit all the Canadian players rather then Texas for example.
No it would only benefit Western Canadians. Eastern Canadians are covered by the Chicago servers.
Western Canada has a population of like maybe 10milion people? Whereas Texas has 24milion people living there, not mention many more millions in the surrounding States.
A minority area should not be a consideration in respects to server placement. But it's not our decision and it seems they are having trouble raising funds to keep the current servers a float, the out look is grim at this point.
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Anywhere left of nevada sounds preferable for a west coast server
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I agree with the mildly retarded attention whore aka Balton. Server should be in Seattle.
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We should petition chadz to shut down Scott's server, then we would have more people to spare.
Why don't you guys act pro-actively with this idea? Scott already has permission to run a server. Why not petition Scott to base the server somewhere out west?
His server currently maintains a very low population. If people would be willing to populate/donate to his server if it was a west coast server, he might be amiable to changing locations.
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Why don't you guys act pro-actively with this idea? Scott already has permission to run a server. Why not petition Scott to base the server somewhere out west?
His server currently maintains a very low population. If people would be willing to populate/donate to his server if it was a west coast server, he might be amiable to changing locations.
Hey. Logic. Get out of here with that.
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I say Dallas because Austin wasn't on the list :mrgreen:
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i say LA cause then they would make a crpg movie. 8-)
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scots server blows cause its got FF and Reflect, other wise id try n start it up every day buuuut... cant cause i hate that so much, please tho settle or CA one.... i get 50-80 anyhow but like 50- would be awesome :P
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I say Dallas because Austin wasn't on the list :mrgreen:
Yeah, Austin would be muuuch better due to their amazing server hosting abilities. If you haven't noticed yet, there's a lot of mmo's with servers running out of austin, and I wonder why that is..
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I say put one in Kansas, geographical center of the US, where the majority of the players are :D.
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Even though I am a Seattlite, I would still say L.A. because it is the most "central" of the West Coast.
Dallas really shouldn't be on the list, don't make me draw on a map like a kid just to show you where Dallas is (hint, if you draw a line right down the middle of the US you will be very close to Dallas on the South part of the line.... and we already have 3 centrally located servers...
Really it's kinda moot though, the person setting up the server would decide where it should go.
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Dallas is the same distance to the west coast as Chicago is. I'd prefer Seattle or Vancouver BC since i live an hour away from both but something regional would be fine. LA would be great. Maybe even Las Vegas or something.
Of course a person who sets up the server gets to decide. But some guy setting up a server in Dallas isn't getting a donation from me, while a Seattle hoster would.
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Portland, Oregon?