currently eu_2 is a no-ranged server, and people just love it.
I don't know if this is intentional or a bug, bug i think, that we should have a permanent non-ranged server, just because it's awesome.
thx
Most people still play on EU1 (it's just as populated as before) and less than 50 people play on EU2, those who are tired of the ranged spam. This way everyone can have fun, why take it away?
Because some people enjoy playing the real game on the smaller server. I dont like the massive clusterfucks of eu4 or even eu1, small squad based fights on eu2 are always fun. But without ranged, the ususal "LOLONLY2HAND IS SKILL"-brigade charges around with overheads, fearing nothing.
If the meele guys should get an non Ranged server the Archers have the right for an only ranged server or i am false with same rights for everyone!
If the meele guys should get an non Ranged server the Archers have the right for an only ranged server or i am false with same rights for everyone!
noone would play on that server because ranged shoot melee
but then you will ahve less players on crpg 1 or 4 so you can play the way you want.
Also the NA servers are great with small battles
this game is getting less and less fun..... well if we divide, maybe lets make only chainmail server, only plate server, only hammer servers and only pitch fork servers??? oh, and male and females servers too.You cant stop childish dreams if the majority have some!
Just stop be childish and start using some cover if u 2h, if u 1h with a shield and u cant avoid being shoot then u just sux.... I got 4 points into shields and I dont get many shoots rly, if u just look carefully aorund and spot archers before they shoot so I know which direction I should face my sheild to, if u do that u should be fine... honestly it isnt any sort of blakc magic just to find a cover and watch battlefield more carefuly
Yes. Melee only - mean melle only.
Only - means only.
No cavalry, airplanes and tactical nukes. Cold steel and brave hearts only. Shield to shield, eyes to eyes, blade to blade.
You cant stop childish dreams if the majority have some!
Think about :Nerf archers plz!
Its sad that most players want a quick succsess and cry becaus they dont get it. After that fail they go and claim nerf.
Dont you claim fairness or ballance, these infantiles dont want it, they want a quick sucsess with no skill :mrgreen:
Yes. Melee only - mean melle only.
Only - means only.
No cavalry, airplanes and tactical nukes. Cold steel and brave hearts only. Shield to shield, eyes to eyes, blade to blade.
melee has nothing to do with mounts.. cav lancers are still melee.
melee has nothing to do with mounts.. cav lancers are still melee.
If you take ranged out of the game, you should take cavalry too. All over the forum people talk about rock/paper/scissor balance. Well, if you take scissors out of the equation, paper will obviously be dominant. And it is so on melee only server. Everyone is forced to grab a pike, the awesome intense melee fights you so dream of are now poking games, where everyone is forced to turn around every couple of seconds to check if some cavalry is not coming at him. You can't really dehorse anyone mounted unless he's reckless or just stupid and runs into your pike, and eventually when you're forced to actually fight someone, the moment you sheathe your pike, the cav is there to backstab you..+1000
It's not as much fun (for you anyways, I, as well as majority of people, based on server population, still enjoy regular server more) as it would be if there was no horses.
I don't want to get into the whole "one shotting everyone", so I'll just ignore it. But tell me a single reason why cavalry should not be disabled together with ranged? How are cavalrists the real men? They won't charge you if you face them, cause you can dehorse them easily (just as you can easily kill ranged if you get close to them), but the second you turn their back to them, you have a lance targeting you. With no ranged, it depends entirely up to them when they engage and when they don't and you can't do anything about it. You can wave around with your pike, but if they don't come close enough, that's all you can do. And once you're engaged in a melee fight, they just kill you.
If you take ranged out of the game, you should take cavalry too. All over the forum people talk about rock/paper/scissor balance. Well, if you take scissors out of the equation, paper will obviously be dominant. And it is so on melee only server. Everyone is forced to grab a pike, the awesome intense melee fights you so dream of are now poking games, where everyone is forced to turn around every couple of seconds to check if some cavalry is not coming at him. You can't really dehorse anyone mounted unless he's reckless or just stupid and runs into your pike, and eventually when you're forced to actually fight someone, the moment you sheathe your pike, the cav is there to backstab you..
It's not as much fun (for you anyways, I, as well as majority of people, based on server population, still enjoy regular server more) as it would be if there was no horses.
Funny how all the bad players in this game cry about ranged. Ranged attacks are apart of the game just as much as melee or cav is. Not to mention Archer's speed being nerfed already.
Most of the time it takes 3-4 shots to down an average target already with a bow. So factor that into the already slowwwwwww draw speed of bows now and you have a pretty weak class yet people continue to complain. You rarely see ranged ever even topping the scoreboards on any server, anyone who says different is an obvious liar.
Honestly ranged is what I would consider one of the easiest classes to counter especially since most ranged players are not very "talented" when it comes to aiming and ranging with their weapon.
However, people just can't seem to accept that their class may have a weakness to someone elses playstyle, you can't be an unstoppable force all the time able to take on every single person in the game. Sometimes you're going to lose, accept it or move on to a different game.
So I say play the game for what it is, the way it was made to be played meaning melee, ranged, and mounted playstyles all in one or just GTFO and cry about it somewhere else where someone cares. Quit sitting here in the forums complaining about the same BS over and over again.
currently eu_2 is a no-ranged server, and people just love it.
I don't know if this is intentional or a bug, bug i think, that we should have a permanent non-ranged server, just because it's awesome.
thx
That won't happen. Lol.
Imo that's a bad idea, if no-range servers appears, other regular servers will just transform into some overcrowded archer's nest.
I don't want to get into the whole "one shotting everyone", so I'll just ignore it. But tell me a single reason why cavalry should not be disabled together with ranged? How are cavalrists the real men? They won't charge you if you face them, cause you can dehorse them easily (just as you can easily kill ranged if you get close to them), but the second you turn their back to them, you have a lance targeting you. With no ranged, it depends entirely up to them when they engage and when they don't and you can't do anything about it. You can wave around with your pike, but if they don't come close enough, that's all you can do. And once you're engaged in a melee fight, they just kill you.
Imo that's a bad idea, if no-range servers appears, other regular servers will just transform into some overcrowded archer's nest.
oh, and you can say that because you... know someone who knows someone who knows someone who mgiht happen to have spoken to ´chadz a time or two?
Cav have to get close to kill people, so if you're aware, you can kill them.
Archers can just stay 200 ft away and spam arrows - not the same.
first of all, just because you don't have fun on melee only, it doesnt mean that we don't have fun, everyone i talk to love it.
second, you can kill cav without pikes, i can even take down cav with my katana
Imo that's a bad idea, if no-range servers appears, other regular servers will just transform into some overcrowded archer's nest.
As I said, with no ranged, cavalry is the one who picks when to engage. No matter how aware you are, if you're in fight with someone else, you can't always defend yourself from both the lance and an attack coming from your opponent. Not to mention bumping.
Well of course if your "everyone" is everyone who plays on melee server. I'm pretty sure if I go the EU1, 100+ people will tell me they love a regular server. Your point?
And hell, I can kill cavalry with my 1h with no shield, again, your point? I don't think you understand that the advantage of choosing when to engage is the single most powerful thing cavalry gains by disabling ranged. And if you truly don't understand that, there is no point in trying to convince you otherwise.
I have to agree, an archer-free server is just a leaching serv. I am an archer and if you get your melee and cav only serv, i want my archer and 2 handed serv only.
No. You just need to think about it. A no range server would be like team deathmatch or something. If there's no range, it takes away from the gameplay, and it'd become like a leech server.
1. if you're in a fight with someone else you also have trouble defending yourself against a footman coming from behind - the only difference is that cav is faster but they can only do one hit before they're gone. Yes, they can come again, but you will be aware of them, and they have lost their momentum, which, as you said, is everything.
2. If people on melee server are happy and people on the regular servers are happy, then what's the problem with a melee only server?
3. You said that everyone had to take out pikes, i said they dont need that to kill cav, you agreed with me, discussion over.
1. Yes, if they come from behind. Cavalry doesnt have to come from behind. And if you're aware, you wont be surprised by any footman coming from behind. If you see one, you reposition yourself and that's it. It takes a while for a footman to get to your back when you reposition yourself so you both see them on one screen. And with proper footwork, you can keep them in your sight prety much all the time. Can you say that about cavalry as well? Also, what keeps cav from turning around once they're just out of your reach and charge you again? And you can be aware of them all you want, once they come you either have to block their lance (and smart cavalrist will just bump you when they see you blocking, which pretty much always nets a kill for your opponent), or die. And I never said momentum is everything for them, you really don't need a lot of speed to one hit kill someone with a lance.
2. I guess the problem right now is that the majority of people, the ones that enjoy playing the game properly, have now one server less, the one thas was always less populated than EU1, thus for many ppl more enjoyable. Also, if you create a melee-only server, there will soon be demands to create other X-only servers for another minorities of people that doesnt like something in the actual game. You can see how ridiculous that would be.
3. Fair enough, still pike is the best anti-cav weapon and thus is most used.
it seems like we're almost coming to an agreement xD
1. yes, cav is better than footmen, but IMO that makes the game mroe fun, at least cav has to get close so you ahve a chance to kill them.
2. i agree that it would be ridiculous to have too many x-only servers, but i dont think that would happen, s it would probably bore many people to do ranged vs ranged and stuff like that. And think that the amount of people liking the melee only makes up for the 1 less server.
3. yes
you get just as much exp on a regular server as on a melee only server, so i cant see how it's a leech server? please explain it to me
There wouldn't be circumstances in where ranged would've won a round, etc.
Lets play rock paper scissors but without the rock
Lets play rock paper scissors but without the rock
and melee can easily kill archers in melee
I don't see the difference here, except melee people just get all bent out of shape when an archer kills them because they can't immediately strike back.Mostly it's because of that whole 2her elitism thing "HURR WE R TEH MOSTEST SKEELD" etc. However I can see the point that people make about there being a billion FPS games out there for your ranged fapping fixation needs, and only this with good melee combat. So I can understand the desire for a melee only server where you can enjoy the best part of the game and not worry about someone playing CS while you're playing M&B. *Yes, I have an archer. It's FPS ez-mode in comparison to melee, but I still enjoy having all the different units on the battlefield.*
omg, stop with the myth. Archers unless built like shit, have no weakness in melee. :rolleyes: