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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Dexxtaa on July 22, 2011, 04:09:12 am

Title: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Dexxtaa on July 22, 2011, 04:09:12 am
I've posted this before, but I haven't been able to find the thread again.

I was thinking of a 20 second warm up at the beginning of each map before the first "official" round starts. Like TF2s "waiting for players..." phase, or Unreal's "awaiting other players..." phase.

This will serve two purposes :

- Allowing people to download the maps when the servers are updated, so they won't miss the first spawn (will also save them from getting spawn raped by cav that might load in faster)
- This will allow Banner Balance to kick in for the first round.

At the end of the 20 second warm up phase, players will be subject to Banner Balance and will be balanced INTO the first "official" round of the map. Which will be beneficial to clan members who are interested in working together on the pub servers without having to wait one round while they wait for Banner Balance to kick in.

Thoughts?

Edit; Please vote on this, if we're lucky, the wonderful devs will see this!

If you think that the time should be something other than 20 seconds, please post with a good explanation as to why it should be the number you suggest. That way, there's at least some reason to your ideas too!

If no, obviously, reasons would be nice
Title: Re: 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Cyclopsided on July 22, 2011, 04:11:39 am
I've been for this, but don't know if it is possible
Title: Re: 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Digglez on July 22, 2011, 05:29:50 am
I've been for this, but don't know if it is possible
maybe that mythical WSE could save the day, when the knights of the round table unearth it
Title: Re: 20 second warm up per map
Post by: dodnet on July 22, 2011, 08:49:58 am
I have a fast connection but downloading any new map except really small ones takes more than 20 seconds. And everyone else would have to wait for that time on any new map, thats just a waste of time in my opionion.
Title: Re: 20 second warm up per map
Post by: chadz on July 22, 2011, 08:53:10 am
I've been for this, but don't know if it is possible

This  :)
Title: Re: 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Panoply on July 22, 2011, 10:47:39 pm
It would also fix the "doors and gates have less hp on the first round" thing that happens in siege servers. Too bad. :/
Title: Re: 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Keshian on July 22, 2011, 10:51:50 pm
This  :)

Great idea, lets try and see if its possible. :)
Title: Re: 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Jarlek on July 22, 2011, 11:28:08 pm
I want this SO badly. It's very useful for everybody and their kittens.
Title: Re: 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Dexxtaa on July 23, 2011, 12:25:20 am
Especially the kittens.
Title: Re: 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Digglez on July 23, 2011, 12:29:56 am
I have a fast connection but downloading any new map except really small ones takes more than 20 seconds. And everyone else would have to wait for that time on any new map, thats just a waste of time in my opionion.

So teambased games like CS & TF that outnumber cRPG by magnitudes must not be doing something right, eh?

20 seconds allows TEAMS to scramble together basic initial plans based on the map that just got loaded.  And THOSE players even have the benefit of knowing which map will be next (due to admin plugins) since they're maps actually have friggin NAMES not ###
Title: Re: 20 second warm up per map
Post by: dodnet on July 23, 2011, 12:45:27 am
So teambased games like CS & TF that outnumber cRPG by magnitudes must not be doing something right, eh?

As I never played these, I could not know.
Title: Re: 20 second warm up per map
Post by: awesomeasaurus on July 23, 2011, 01:05:24 am
Great idea, lets try and see if its possible. :)

Do it! do it!
Title: Re: 20 second warm up per map
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on July 24, 2011, 01:23:50 am
Oh deard god yes. Please do this.

Even if its impossible do it. Fuck impossibility!
Title: Re: 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Dexxtaa on September 27, 2011, 07:51:24 pm
Bump for buttocks
Title: Re: 20 second warm up per map
Post by: POOPHAMMER on September 27, 2011, 07:54:50 pm
+1
Title: Re: 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Leshma on September 27, 2011, 07:58:46 pm
But..but.. who will poor Maganda kill in that case? :cry:

 :lol:
Title: Re: 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Digglez on September 27, 2011, 09:41:34 pm
this is really needed.  games without it suck and it should be standard by these days.
Title: Re: 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Dexxtaa on September 28, 2011, 02:46:38 pm
Update with poll.

Also bump for buttocks.
Title: Re: 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Joxer on September 28, 2011, 05:22:17 pm
Yes please so I can actually play the game instead of sitting at the spawn covering the slow spawners  :twisted:
Title: Re: 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on October 02, 2011, 09:09:14 am
The only down side I'd see is, people would just TK the fuck out of each other. It's like taking friendly fire off on Counter-Strike: Source. People are going to die, son. Most likely me. I don't like that. Other than that, this is a pretty good idea.
Title: Re: 20 second warm up per map
Post by: SchokoSchaf on October 02, 2011, 09:23:49 am
You could try to establish common team tactics like waiting together at the spawn in the first round for the first minute. But then again, we all know it won't work.
Title: Re: 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Dexxtaa on November 01, 2011, 03:36:43 pm
bump for butts

Topic changed to reflect suggestion
Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Duke on November 01, 2011, 06:29:03 pm
I said 'Yes' to the poll, although I think 20 seconds might not be long enough. I might lean towards 30 seconds.
Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Haze_The_Hobo on November 01, 2011, 07:59:58 pm
+1
Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: DrKronic on November 01, 2011, 09:41:00 pm
Wow a good idea actually appeared in the forums

Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: ManOfWar on November 01, 2011, 10:12:25 pm
Is it possible?
Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Earthdforce on November 01, 2011, 11:31:07 pm
Dooo ettt
Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Tzar on November 01, 2011, 11:40:02 pm
+1

Great idea

Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Digglez on November 02, 2011, 12:35:20 am
Is it possible?

its already done for strategus matches, no reason why it can be done on normal servers
Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Wookimonsta on November 04, 2011, 10:35:28 am
no, how will i couch lance people that are just spawning in otherwise?
Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: sF_Guardian on November 05, 2011, 06:27:39 pm
Want that !
Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Dexxtaa on April 02, 2012, 11:20:50 pm
herp.
 
Even more relevant now with the whole "reset multiplier" thing.
Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Rumblood on April 02, 2012, 11:33:50 pm
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Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: HUSTLER on April 03, 2012, 02:23:51 am
Only usefull necro thread on the forum  :lol:

cRPG could really use this system but i don't think its possible because it would be kinda obvious the devs would have added it by now if it was possible  :?:
Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: RibaldRon on April 03, 2012, 03:52:42 am
Awesome necro.

Make the first preliminary round have no impact on multi, but still award XP like normal to compensate for the map change delay.

Sounds like a good idea to me!  30 sec is plenty of time, considering you also have an additional (90 sec?) to spawn in when the "real" game begins.
Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Arathian on April 15, 2012, 07:20:46 pm
I fucking want this.
Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Spanish on April 18, 2012, 06:44:05 pm
I'm pretty sure almost everyone wants this but it may be impossible sad sad day :/
Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on April 18, 2012, 07:13:34 pm
pro bump
Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: MrShine on April 18, 2012, 07:29:46 pm
This would be quite nice.  Indeed.  Yes.  Good spot.
Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Phazey on April 18, 2012, 07:32:17 pm
yes!
Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Dexxtaa on April 18, 2012, 07:33:52 pm
This would be quite nice.  Indeed.  Yes.  Good spot.

mmm yes. Quite.

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Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: MrShine on April 19, 2012, 05:46:46 am
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Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Dexxtaa on April 19, 2012, 05:49:17 am
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Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Digglez on April 19, 2012, 06:16:32 am
Quote from: Wesley
WTF isnt this in-game already?

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Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Idzo on April 19, 2012, 02:14:03 pm
Le bump! +1
Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 28, 2012, 05:57:36 pm
shameless bump
Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Bulzur on June 28, 2012, 06:04:46 pm
shameless bump

Another one, in case.
Better continue the discussion here, than letting Panos continue an interesting idea on his thread.
Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Dexxtaa on June 28, 2012, 06:10:11 pm
Another one, in case.
Better continue the discussion here, than letting beer continue an interesting idea on his thread.

lol Okay.

I don't understand what the difficulty is with programming in an extra round though. I have almost no experience in programming, so I can't really wrap my mind around the issue of putting in a 20 second spare round in front of the regular rounds.

I mean, we have the "30 seconds left to spawn" in DTV, so why not just kill everyone at the end of the first round, and banner balance them to the correct team afterward ?
Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 28, 2012, 06:20:35 pm
Or just bring it back so you can go spectator (or just not spawn a round) and you still keep your multiplier.  Problem solved.

If you actually balanced the teams based on skills/atttributes, equipment equipped, and K:D ratios (rather than mainly balancing on banners) then you wouldn't have the problem of people waiting the first round until they are balanced with their banner buddies. 

Then you could remove the "multiplier" reset bullshit.
Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: bruce on June 28, 2012, 10:40:18 pm
Dextaa you renown whore.

But it is really a good suggestion.
Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Dexxtaa on June 29, 2012, 07:18:53 am
Dextaa you renown whore.

But it is really a good suggestion.

Can't do it on reddit, gotta do it somewhere.
Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Lord_Panos on June 29, 2012, 12:22:53 pm
Another one, in case.
Better continue the discussion here, than letting beer continue an interesting idea on his thread.
   


 :?
Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Bulzur on June 29, 2012, 03:43:01 pm
:?

Well, there's also already good arguments in thoses little 4 pages, so might as well read them and such. But it's the same suggestion anyway, so it's for the best !
Unite the threads !
Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: oprah_winfrey on June 29, 2012, 09:32:06 pm
Can't do it on reddit, gotta do it somewhere.

Next level renown whoring: Doing it before we knew it existed
Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Dexxtaa on November 10, 2012, 09:49:12 pm
HEH
Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: no_rules_just_play on November 18, 2012, 04:25:07 am
+1 for siege too! bannerbalance, yes!
and even better: no more paper doors!

sry, didnt read whole thread
Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Quinnie on January 21, 2014, 01:44:36 am
Or just bring it back so you can go spectator (or just not spawn a round) and you still keep your multiplier.  Problem solved.

If you actually balanced the teams based on skills/atttributes, equipment equipped, and K:D ratios (rather than mainly balancing on banners) then you wouldn't have the problem of people waiting the first round until they are balanced with their banner buddies. 

Then you could remove the "multiplier" reset bullshit.

I agree with Dexxta, and this post about speccing in before the round.
Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on January 21, 2014, 02:41:23 am
Dude this post was 2 years ago
Title: Re: [Suggestion// Mechanics] 20 second warm up per map
Post by: Dexxtaa on January 21, 2014, 05:45:10 am
And this topic is STILL relevant. Am I a visionary or what