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Strategus => Strategus General Discussion => Topic started by: Gnjus on July 18, 2011, 12:25:33 pm

Title: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Gnjus on July 18, 2011, 12:25:33 pm
I'll use this opportunity to point out one thing: lots of people apply for each & every battle and picking them is not an easy task so.....please if you apply make sure you'll be there, for the first battle I've decided to forgive to those who applied and didn't show up but from our next battle I will be taking screenshots to see who screwed me up....and I will be making the list of those names in public.

Some honest people who'd otherwise come end up tossed aside because others apply and don't show up, they make me look even more evil then i actually am, people feeling angry about me for not taking 'em, etc, etc.

I never apply for other people's battles but when that happens ill be there 100%, i don't see one possible reason to apply if you're not certain you'll be able to attend it. Please people, don't be greedy and selfish.
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Spurdospera on July 18, 2011, 10:34:41 pm
Public Blacklist? +1 for that.
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: KingKessler on July 18, 2011, 11:52:45 pm
mi piace, mi piace
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Graf_Hodenschaf on July 19, 2011, 08:34:53 am
Quote from: Spurdospera on July 18, 2011, 10:34:41 pm
Public Blacklist? +1 for that.

+1
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Lord_Panos on July 19, 2011, 09:27:11 am
as posted by Gnjus in another thread..

BashiBazouk Leed
Merc Alatar
Sorokopud the Pillager
RuConquista Leprikon
BADPLAYER
Sir Thomas the Pillager
xKhanxAzrayel
BashiBazouk Kastamonulu
BashiBazouk Turbo massage
Risen CroJo
CotgS Chamion
Ninja Renay
Ninja Torak
Fallen PoetryFox
MerA Vex
Garguro ATS
Risen Thovex
Gidropinok the Pillager
Legio Lars
Philosiraptor PxC


these are the guys who couldnt "make it"

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Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Renay on July 19, 2011, 09:39:14 am
shit, sorry, I fell asleep 2 hour prior to the battle :(
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: LLJK_Korea1 on July 19, 2011, 09:54:56 am
God how spergy man can be
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Logen on July 19, 2011, 09:57:37 am
I actually woke up from 5-hrs sleep only to not disappoint Gnjus.
 :lol:
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: thepicpike on July 19, 2011, 10:16:37 am
battle was at 08:00 a.m for me, i sent apply at 23:00 pm i think. i waited till 04:00 a.m and i didnt see my name. so i slept. if you accepted me after that i'm sorry.

Kocik.

aah i saw your pm now, i couldnt see before cuz Kocik_4th is muted for a month :)) yea mate i was a kapikulu before but dont forget i was a BashiBazouk too. and trust i'll join everything against kapikulu.
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: justme on July 19, 2011, 10:16:42 am
@logen- you havent,  nice game man
@others- shame u (except leed)...
@chadz- tnx for messing with spawn point of attacker, we lost main charge on that for nothing
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Gnjus on July 19, 2011, 10:26:07 am
Quote from: Lord_Panos on July 19, 2011, 09:27:11 am
as posted by Gnjus in another thread..

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these are the guys who couldnt "make it"

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No need to post it again Panos, Im sure people saw the other thread. This looks like youre rubbing it in.


Quote from: Logen on July 19, 2011, 09:57:37 am
I actually woke up from 5-hrs sleep only to not disappoint Gnjus.
 :lol:

You did very well Logan.

Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: RO_FearMyArrow on July 19, 2011, 11:41:52 am
Gnjus, good move for making the names public. People should be more careful when they click on apply button.
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Different on July 19, 2011, 12:54:29 pm
Ey, I usually attend to every battle I applied for.
I had a reason why I couldnt join, so inform yourself better, not to get superficial !  8-)
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Gheritarish le Loki on July 19, 2011, 01:03:06 pm
there should be an option in the first 5 min to allow commander to accept new player to replace the one that doesn´t show.
I was in pending list but couldn´t fight even if some didn´t show.

Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Gnjus on July 19, 2011, 01:04:43 pm
I usually deal with my roster up to the last 2 minutes before the fight starts so.....there is not much i can do if people don't (or can't) cancel their application.
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Gheritarish le Loki on July 19, 2011, 01:12:05 pm
yeah ofc i´m sure you check roster till last moment, but once server launch you can´t do anything, but you can see ppl that are not here.
With a dynamic roster may be you could recruit new men.
Or you need to set up a checkpoint in duel server or TS 10min before battle.
Or may be if we could have a 10men list of substitute thay you can recruit easily that could be better.
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Different on July 19, 2011, 01:12:36 pm
You can cancel it too..
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: justme on July 20, 2011, 01:16:45 am
i think that bandits fights were only fights i had fun, all other were played less then 2 min, by capturing the enemy spawn.. so boring and so worthless of wasting time...
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Mtemtko on July 20, 2011, 01:23:27 am
Just get a goddamned TS channel , tell everyone to join 30 minutes before the battle and boot everyone that is not in before 15 minutes, who fucking knows what went wrong for the guys that didnt show up, a storm, internet died, family trouble etcetc
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: BADPLAYERold on July 20, 2011, 01:45:07 am
I applied and didn't show up just to piss you off because I don't like you.
Enjoy.
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Olwen on July 20, 2011, 01:48:39 am
Quote from: BADPLAYER on July 20, 2011, 01:45:07 am
I applied and didn't show up just to piss you off because I don't like you.
Enjoy.

lol'd
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Renay on July 20, 2011, 03:50:10 am
Quote from: BADPLAYER on July 20, 2011, 01:45:07 am
I applied and didn't show up just to piss you off because I don't like you.
Enjoy.

Be sure to be signed up for lots of clans battles....
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Wanderer8 on July 20, 2011, 07:05:31 am
Badplayer showed up for DL a few hours ago. Also I have to say a public blacklist is just going to ruin the community and really drive away new players. As someone stated before get a TS server and ask everyone who is going to show up to join the server. That's what we, DL, did. People signed on, we roll called and whoever showed up was secured a spot, those who didn't we assumed weren't going to make it. A few DL players missed the roll call and thus when they joined didn't get to play but such is life, they learned and now next time they'll be there early. It worked out great for us. We didn't get mad at anyone. There was no banlist/blacklist that we had to make and revise depending on persons reason for missing the battle. The most annoying thing we faced was hearing the endless "user has left the channel" prompt from TS.

Besides how can you trust a public blacklist? I may hate someone and simply add them as part of a list.
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Gnjus on July 20, 2011, 09:11:06 am
Quote from: Wanderer8 on July 20, 2011, 07:05:31 am
Besides how can you trust a public blacklist? I may hate someone and simply add them as part of a list.

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Quote from: BADPLAYER on July 20, 2011, 01:45:07 am
I applied and didn't show up just to piss you off because I don't like you.
Enjoy.

Quote from: Wanderer8 on July 20, 2011, 07:05:31 am
Badplayer showed up for DL a few hours ago. Also I have to say a public blacklist is just going to ruin the community

I couldn't care less. There is more then one such moron around, they deserve it.
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: TomMyyY on July 20, 2011, 11:03:04 am
Hm ye, when BADPLAYER applied for my battle for 0 gold with the comment "free, just like your mum" I figured it might not be the best idea to hire him.

I totally support this idea, wish I thought of this and made some screenshots of my own.
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Graf_Hodenschaf on July 20, 2011, 11:51:04 am
I think it would be fair for those guys that first, they will get a warning. When they dont show up for a 2nd time, there is a ban for strategus battles for some time ( week ? ). Why no more warnings before banning them? Because every lost town is important here!


Quote from: TomMyyY on July 20, 2011, 11:03:04 am
Hm ye, when BADPLAYER applied for my battle for 0 gold with the comment "free, just like your mum"

Lol, how stupid can you be to assign with such a comment  :)
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Different on July 20, 2011, 11:56:42 am
But you guys know, that there can accidents happen and that someone didnt show up once isnt relyable cause of that is a good joke too yes ?  :|
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Toffi on July 20, 2011, 12:18:04 pm
Quote from: Gnjus on July 19, 2011, 01:04:43 pm
I usually deal with my roster up to the last 2 minutes before the fight starts
bad idea...
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Gnjus on July 20, 2011, 12:33:54 pm
Quote from: Toffi on July 20, 2011, 12:18:04 pm
bad idea...

In case you misunderstood: i accept people much earlier but i check it right before the battle start to see if some canceled and left free spots to be filled.
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Sultan Eren on July 20, 2011, 01:14:22 pm
Thanks for screens Gnjus.
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Wanderer8 on July 20, 2011, 07:23:53 pm
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Very reliable. Took me 30 seconds using paint. Could have done better if I took the time. But i suppose you want multiple people from both sides of the battle to post and/or also to get the admins involved. Unless I'm wrong and the the list of people who played/were enlisted is publically available even after the battle ends.

You realize a public banlist will get so long that it'll just become tedious finding names. Having to ctrl f and look up every single person will be fun. Not to mention the time it'll take to do updates, just imagine having to listen to people's excuses because there is a world outside of c-rpg and things happen.

Be more professional. Get TS. Do a role call. No matter how big the banlist gets there will always be more people and it'll save you the trouble of raging in the future.


*edited cause i suck with uploading images
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Gnjus on July 20, 2011, 09:05:48 pm
Quote from: Wanderer8 on July 20, 2011, 07:23:53 pm
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Very reliable. Took me 30 seconds using paint. Could have done better if I took the time.

Yeah, I've got nothing better to do in my life then edit battle rosters with paint. Good work lad, now take your pills and good night.
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Toffi on July 20, 2011, 09:24:50 pm
Quote from: Gnjus on July 20, 2011, 12:33:54 pm
In case you misunderstood: i accept people much earlier but i check it right before the battle start to see if some canceled and left free spots to be filled.

Ah yes, that's better :D
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Wanderer8 on July 20, 2011, 09:35:06 pm
Quote from: Gnjus on July 20, 2011, 09:05:48 pm
Yeah, I've got nothing better to do in my life then edit battle rosters with paint. Good work lad, now take your pills and good night.

I sense much anger in you. It all makes sense now.

Sad that you didn't understand why I was showing you that.
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Gnjus on July 20, 2011, 10:07:45 pm
Quote from: Wanderer8 on July 20, 2011, 09:35:06 pm
I sense much anger in you. It all makes sense now.

Sense ? Angry ? About what ? A game ? A virtual battle ? Strategos ? Which is pretty much the same bug-filled unrealistic shit that was shut down 8 months ago ? Sorry mate but you're wrong. And your posts don't make much sense at all.

I'd never allow myself the lowdown of getting angry about a thing like this. Bandits are having a great time, you know, on our TS there is only fun and laughter. If not for the lads i wouldn't even be playing this beta version of Strategos but they got me into it since I'm one of the few who was playing the old one and they wanted to see how it is. It took me a week to see that so far its same shit as before - people lying to each other over a shitty game lol, making "alliances", backstabbing each other, making these ridiculous "claims", getting insulted over nothing, all in all - taking the game a bit too serious. Game itself is far from perfect but people aren't really improving it much with their silly behavior. Not to mention that it is completely biased to larger clans which means Bandits have no business here whatsoever. As far as I'm concerned (and i speak for most of the Bandits) we know that we are too small to make any serious impact but we don't care at all about what happens in this Strategos, we're having a good laugh over most of these things and that's what we will continue doing. When (and if) they make a proper version of Strategos where you wont be needing 70+ active players to survive and make an impact and when our role-play becomes at least a bit viable then we might try it out with just a bit more serious approach (but not too serious).
Last but not the least: my post about people who failed to show up for my battle was not to make them look bad, i already wrote that I'm certain most of 'em had good reasons not to show up and i already explained it in another post why I'm putting it up in the first place so i wont repeat it but we all know it has nothing to do with anger. I'm trying to help solve this issue somehow, maybe my way of putting it up was not the best but its a start, people are at least talking about it. Not all of us can take things so serious to assemble people in TS half an hour before the battle and count them up and compare the rosters.......I don't wanna do it, i want to be able to trust people who signed up that they will show up and that we will have some good fun without having to check each and everyone of them but obviously I'm asking for too much, especially when you look at people like BADPLAYER.
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Babelfish on July 20, 2011, 10:35:10 pm
I dislike the idea of a public* name & shame list, but a semi-public* list is fine, and have been common practice in the past.

(*1 Where clans/random-people get together and posts very unreliable screen-shots of people not showing up for battles)
(*2 Clans post who is not showing up to their battle, on their own forum-page)
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Wanderer8 on July 21, 2011, 04:41:47 am
Oh i finally have a suggestion. How about two levels of rosters. The trusted roster, for clan mates/people that you know 100% will show up, and a second first come/first serve roster. In the second roster you can sign up say 20 people but only ten of them can be let in the serve. It'll be a first come first serve sort of bases where only the first ten who login to the server can make it. Not sure how well it'll work but it's an idea.

To Gnjus,

Also the point of my picture previous post was not to point out that you personally would change a list but to show how easy it is for ANYONE to change a list. If you were to make a public banlist then I'm assuming just about any clan leader can post and add to it and you have to remember there's a lot of people that play the game. How are you going to decide who to trust?

Hopefully that was clear enough.
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Ujin on July 21, 2011, 05:16:15 pm
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No offence but this is a bunch of grumpy overexaggerated whining . I can name numerous clans from previous Strategus that were considerably smaller than others and managed to make an impact in the global politics and survived. A perfect example would be the 22nd . 

Maybe if you've actually changed your approach you would've realised that "people lying to each other over a shitty game lol, making "alliances", backstabbing each other, making these ridiculous "claims", getting insulted over nothing" is what keeps this game going and why people are so attracted to it in the first place. This and the battles, yes.But without politics (backstabbing,alliances,claims, insults,plots etc) there would've been no battles. And if you play your cards right, even a clan with 20 members can play an important role. But it all lies in the hands of that clan's leaders.

Nobody's judging you if you wanna keep playing it "for shits and giggles", but don't cover it up with throwing piles of mud at other factions that actually play it more seriously. They consider their playstyle "fun" too.

P.S. and i think chadz has stated many times that Strategus was re-launched mainly to test the battles and that it will most probably be getting updates on the go. No need for some extra whining here.
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Olwen on July 21, 2011, 05:24:28 pm
when i was leading Mercs in last strategus we took more territory than most of the factions ... we had 1 fief/active member, more than 1 fief/active member in the end we had like 3-4 guys with at least 2 fiefs
it's quite doable

and without alliance
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: Gnjus on July 21, 2011, 05:24:35 pm
Quote from: Shogunate_Ujin on July 21, 2011, 05:16:15 pm
P.S. and i think chadz has stated many times that Strategus was re-launched mainly to test the battles and that it will most probably be getting updates on the go. No need for some extra whining here.

Exactly. We lost a village due to a bug and we didn't whine at all, i just wrote it to be noted and nothing more. Also, i don't see a single piece of whining here, i was responding to the guy above who said that we were angry or something, while it is clearly not true. We're still laughing at our TeamSpeak even after today's loss so.....no offense but you are wrong. And i don't go into other people's approach, i don't give a damn how serious you or anyone else approaches this game, you can do whatever you like and have fun with it but this guy questioned mine so i explained it to him. If you don't like it its not my problem.
Title: Re: Fighting for the Bandits
Post by: FICO on July 21, 2011, 10:11:54 pm
these turks appeared naked  :cry:
they show no respect to us. that saddens me