Permanent Death is a joke, you can confirm this in the innumerable threads that confirm it that are locked with chadz confirming it is a joke.
SNSD Hwaiting! <3
And that's why you never change something about your character within at least a week after a new patch.
Wait for the hotfixes and try different stuff before you freak out and do something stupid like retiring for no reason.
It's certainly not a joke, I can confirm this after working heavily with cmp on the permanent death system, it relies on a number of different factors, which make it unlikely to actually occur within the first 2-3 weeks of being introduced, but after that high-level (age w/e) characters will start dying permanently.
Slry chadz..... if your reading this i hope u feel bad :rolleyes:
AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHA....
Oh wait, you are serious? -1
i retired because i was afraid for getting a "perm death" i grinded to lvl 32 and now people telling me that it was a joke? WTF!!!
even chadz wrote somethign about that the "perm death" was true. So i believed him. omfg......!!!
GIVE ME MY CHAR LVL 32 BACK!!!! >_< or 2 heirloom points!!! :O
Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen at birth?
I don't remember. I don't concern myself with such trivial things like remembering anything long term.
Have you considered suing your brains for non-support?
What?
I don't think I can sue myself, nor do I have multiple brains...
Yeah..i guess it was a troll.chadz isn't a developer for a game. He is a developer of a mod. For an indie game. And the mod is still in Beta.
That kind of trolling is really irresponsible, especially when you are the developer of a game, and people trust you, and hang on your every word.
Might have been funny..heh, heh....but for poor people like the OP its really a problem. It's a little different than telling someone to ALT-F4 to fix a game setting or something.
Troll responsibly!
chadz isn't a developer for a game. He is a developer of a mod. For an indie game. And the mod is still in Beta.
He's really big for one in his field when you think about it. Bigger than a lot of professional developers and WAY more known than most of them.
And what correlation does this post of yours have to chadz "fucking shit up because he trolls?"
Call him a purple striped yellow poka-dotted equus africanus asinus for all I care, he still trolls and then is "surprised" when new-ish players find out the hard way and ruin his/her characters/game.
I would not mind chadz trolling if he were to stop acting surprised when people fall for his shit.
Also, this coming from the guy with a name "Naive Peasant."
And what correlation does this post of yours have to chadz "fucking shit up because he trolls?"Oh nothing at all. I just wanted to remind him and others about it. Too many people think of chadz and the rest of Team Don-kay as game developers when they really are making a mod (granted, a FUCKING AWESOME, successful, well loved (hence the rage whenever it changes) and deep mod, but still a mod).
Call him a purple striped yellow poka-dotted equus africanus asinus for all I care, he still trolls and then is "surprised" when new-ish players find out the hard way and ruin his/her characters/game.
I would not mind chadz trolling if he were to stop acting surprised when people fall for his shit.
Oh nothing at all. I just wanted to remind him and others about it. Too many people think of chadz and the rest of Team Don-kay as game developers when they really are making a mod (granted, a FUCKING AWESOME, successful, well loved (hence the rage whenever it changes) and deep mod, but still a mod).
i retired because i was afraid for getting a "perm death" i grinded to lvl 32 and now people telling me that it was a joke? WTF!!!
even chadz wrote somethign about that the "perm death" was true. So i believed him. omfg......!!!
GIVE ME MY CHAR LVL 32 BACK!!!! >_< or 2 heirloom points!!! :O
i retired because i was afraid for getting a "perm death" i grinded to lvl 32 and now people telling me that it was a joke? WTF!!!
even chadz wrote somethign about that the "perm death" was true. So i believed him. omfg......!!!
GIVE ME MY CHAR LVL 32 BACK!!!! >_< or 2 heirloom points!!! :O
'Trolling' is just code for being an asshole. Some people think that's cool and like to encourage it; the appropriate descriptor for such people is 'moron'. We are, sadly, awash, in such people. If this sort of thing were discouraged, we would have more players and a better community. But.. some sad people have no better way to get attention I guess.
3. Patchnotes don't exist because nothing was actually changed, we are part of a clever behavioral experiment.
i retired because i was afraid for getting a "perm death" i grinded to lvl 32 and now people telling me that it was a joke? WTF!!!
even chadz wrote somethign about that the "perm death" was true. So i believed him. omfg......!!!
GIVE ME MY CHAR LVL 32 BACK!!!! >_< or 2 heirloom points!!! :O
Sigh :rolleyes:...the typical case of caring more about leveling your char than playing it. Yes, it sucks that that happened. Yes, chadz shouldn't have been kidding around like that. But, in the end, all of it really shouldn't matter because one should be playing the game to, well, play the game, not to attach oneself with a ubur-grinded char. Look on the up side, you can start being effective again when you reach lvl 20, and that doesn't take long.
I'm not generally one to complain about trolling, but I have to say, I wish chadz/cmp/developers didn't troll as much as they do, at least in the context of patch notes or general announcements. It's expected that when someone in an authoritative position posts about their game that they are passing on honest information. Largely in part to the trolling is why I think there is so much misinformation about things in this game, and what effects different things actually have. I understand that chadz wants to avoid a min/maxing mentality from the playerbase, but the constant trolling actually makes it less likely for players to take risks because they don't want to irreversibly damage their character. I feel like the OP is a perfect example of this: thought he learned something new, decided to take action, and was ultimately penalized for trying something based on information given from a reputable source. It just paralyzes players from taking new risks because they have no basis on what the risks truly entail.In my defense, all we wrote was
And we didn't expect ANYONE to fall for it, we really thought people would read that line, have a smile, and read on.Well, I think it would have been like this if there hadn't been some dutiful troll supporters in our lines, which almost convincingly told everyone and everywhere on the forums how their character died. :P
And apart from that, I don't think we did any trolling/pranks in the last few months? or did we?
chadz isn't a developer for a game. He is a developer of a mod. For an indie game. And the mod is still in Beta.
Strategus.
I know all of you are trying to fool me, but I'm not going to fall for it.
Even when every other player is talking about playing Strategus, even when the clans are claiming to be scheduling battles and working out diplomatic agreements, I'll know. It's all one big hoax.
And we didn't expect ANYONE to fall for it, we really thought people would read that line, have a smile, and read on.
As soon as you institute both a grind and a carrot on a stick (rewards for said grind; IE Heirlooms, bonus xp, etc) then the focus inherently becomes about grinding, rather than enjoying the game itself. This is a time investment, not instant gratification, therefore having an attachment to one's uber-grinded character is actually completely normal and rational. Time is finite for us and so typically when someone/thing wastes said time there's bound to be a negative emotional response.I guess your somewhat right. But Alexander didn't get it that bad, he retired, got a loom point, and didn't loose his char. I would completely understand him being pissed off if his char got perma-killed, but it didn't. This is the case where one should look on how much fun they had with their char going to lvl 32 instead of thinking of how much time they "wasted" playing to that point. The grinding you're talking about is different to what Alexander was doing, he wasn't retiring at 31, he was going to lvl 35 i'm guessing. Personally, the only part of the game that I focus on grinding over playing is the initial lvl 1-15 jump that one needs to make in order to have a chance at contributing (unless you count being a peasant-target contributing :mrgreen:). So I guess I don't understand the feeling Alexander and others are showing, for that I apologize. I do not, however, apologize for stating my opinion of the situation.
If it was about playing the game and enjoying the game everyone would simply have skip the fun level 30's with no heirlooms.
no its not, here stolen from wikipedia, also I can attest to this definition as I have been on online since before the 1990'stl;dr
In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory[citation needed], extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[3] The noun troll may refer to the provocative message itself, as in: "That was an excellent troll you posted". While the word troll and its associated verb trolling are associated with Internet discourse, media attention in recent years has made such labels subjective, with trolling describing intentionally provocative actions outside of an online context. For example, mass media uses troll to describe "a person who defaces Internet tribute sites with the aim of causing grief to families."[4][5]
The contemporary use of the term is alleged to have appeared on the Internet in the late 1980s,[8] but the earliest known example is from 1992.[9] Early non-internet related use of trolling for actions deliberately performed to provoke a reaction can be found in the military; by 1972 the term trolling for MiGs was documented in use by US Navy pilots in Vietnam.[10]
Early history
The most likely derivation of the word troll can be found in the phrase "trolling for newbies", popularized in the early 1990s in the Usenet group, alt.folklore.urban (AFU).[11][12]
Commonly, what is meant is a relatively gentle inside joke by veteran users, presenting questions or topics that had been so overdone that only a new user would respond to them earnestly. For example, a veteran of the group might make a post on the common misconception that glass flows over time. Long-time readers would both recognize the poster's name and know that the topic had been discussed a lot, but new subscribers to the group would not realize, and would thus respond. These types of trolls served as a practice to identify group insiders. This definition of trolling, considerably narrower than the modern understanding of the term, was considered a positive contribution.[11][13] One of the most notorious AFU trollers, Snopes,[11] went on to create his eponymous urban folklore website.
By the late 1990s, alt.folklore.urban had such heavy traffic and participation that trolling of this sort was frowned upon. Others expanded the term to include the practice of playing a seriously misinformed or deluded user, even in newsgroups where one was not a regular; these were often attempts at humor rather than provocation. In such contexts, the noun troll usually referred to an act of trolling, rather than to the author.
/ontopic LOL @ the guy who retired thinking he was gonna die, only problem was it wasn't kesh or it would be ultra LOL