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Title: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: LLJK_Brolocaust on July 11, 2011, 05:15:21 am: So perhaps the most shocking addition in the changelog, and one that would deserve its own thread, would be:

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- added random chance of permanent death for old characters

I haven't seen any clarification yet as to what this means of whether or not it is real. It could very well be a joke but we can't know for sure until a few days have passed. I guess the first priority would be to straighten out those details.

Secondly I think this could be a terrible idea. If death results in playerwipe I can guarantee that almost any high gen player would GTX. I have put over 600 hours into my one character and I'm sure there are several people out there who have put over 1000 hours into their characters or even 2000. I think the greatest thing about the retirement system is that it allows us to experience variety while keeping a sense of progression, a permanent death would undo all the great things about the system as it is.

The more likely scenario would be a forced retirement, where the player has to choose an heirloom and start their next character. Lets assume that only player of level 31 or over can "die", this feature plays a role to prevent us from reaching level 33 and such. This is an okay feature but frustratingly unnecessary IMO. Many players including myself are reaching the end of their "retirement phase" and are now focusing on levelling up to 33 or 35 (god help them) and to be honest I would really appreciate an end to the grind. Adding playerdeath would remove any motivation from playing beyond level 31 because any gained experience can be taken away at any moment. Please don't take that away from us chadz! Is it really so terrible to have some level 33s on the battlefield? They already are paying a huge price by gaining 35mil experience and by not heirlooming their items.

So lets collect our thoughts and wait for the first reports of player death to come in, I'm sure there will be some false reports but we will know if they are real soon enough.
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: Bulzur on July 11, 2011, 05:30:41 am: Quote from: LLJK_Brolocaust on July 11, 2011, 05:15:21 am
So perhaps the most shocking addition in the changelog, and one that would deserve its own thread, would be-added random chance of permanent death for old characters

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This has been discussed on irc, and if it is indeed what it was said it would be, it is NOT a character wipe.
You play, as usual. Reach lv31. Then decide to keep leveling. And you get older. And older. And then suddenly, your character die, with no coming back possible. So obviously, it "forces" you to retire, but in no way does it delete your character.

This is to prevent high level players breaking the balance (maybe for strategus too) and to insure a good renewal of peasants in the game.

I still hope this random chance only happens if you're lv32 or higher, so that you can actually have fun with your lv31 finished build a bit, before retiring.
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: Thomek on July 11, 2011, 05:36:07 am: this can't be true.

it's an old joke from another patch a long long time ago.. couple of times i think, or maybe once before has he said the same in patch notes.
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: Visus on July 11, 2011, 05:37:57 am: ...IF this is true. Kesh will shit his pants hahaha
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: Keshian on July 11, 2011, 05:45:24 am: Quote from: Visus on July 11, 2011, 05:37:57 am
...IF this is true. Kesh will shit his pants hahaha

Already did, already did.....jk
I am already planning a respec once strategus comes up, figure level 34 will be significantly lower % chance. Seems fair they give us an idea of chance as this is such a dramatic impact on your character.
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: ICEMAN1779 on July 11, 2011, 05:50:12 am: I think ill give mount&blade a break untill we no for shur if its tru. See you guys in a week or so :wink:
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: Torben on July 11, 2011, 06:49:39 am: meh. if torben dies, ill quite. real life has some quality shit going on anyway

edit. : quit. dang, my spellings off these days...
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: Siiem on July 11, 2011, 06:51:25 am: Quote from: Bulzur on July 11, 2011, 05:30:41 am
This has been discussed on irc, and if it is indeed what it was said it would be, it is NOT a character wipe.
You play, as usual. Reach lv31. Then decide to keep leveling. And you get older. And older. And then suddenly, your character die, with no coming back possible. So obviously, it "forces" you to retire, but in no way does it delete your character.

This is to prevent high level players breaking the balance (maybe for strategus too) and to insure a good renewal of peasants in the game.

I still hope this random chance only happens if you're lv32 or higher, so that you can actually have fun with your lv31 finished build a bit, before retiring.

Soooo... skip the fun and you're safe forever... awesome.
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: 3ABP on July 11, 2011, 09:02:59 am: No more leveling up, no more increasing weapons stats... welcome to Native 2.0?
I hope not, but sounds...
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: okiN on July 11, 2011, 09:20:44 am: Quote from: LLJK_Brolocaust on July 11, 2011, 05:15:21 am
Secondly I think this could be a terrible idea. If death results in playerwipe I can guarantee that almost any high gen player would GTX. I have put over 600 hours into my one character and I'm sure there are several people out there who have put over 1000 hours into their characters or even 2000. I think the greatest thing about the retirement system is that it allows us to experience variety while keeping a sense of progression, a permanent death would undo all the great things about the system as it is.

I'm pretty sure you've got it all wrong. Like Bulzur said, "old characters" surely refers to character age, not account age. That means it targets high-level characters, not high-gen ones. Its purpose can only be to put pressure on people to keep retiring; I'm willing to bet there's no chance of permadeath at level 30 or below.
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: Elerion on July 11, 2011, 10:01:22 am: This just in from IRC:

Quote from: IRC
<@chadz> It's permanent death, not retirement. You get to choose one heirloom to keep for another character, while the others are scavenged on the battlefield and lost. All generations are lost. It will start happening on level 32, and be pretty frequent by 35.
<@chadz> Also, more generations = higher chance of death
trollface
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: chadz on July 11, 2011, 10:03:09 am: fakelogs :shock:
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: Elerion on July 11, 2011, 10:03:50 am: spoilsport :(
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: Lansamur on July 11, 2011, 10:08:43 am: Pfff... good thing I never bother playing till lvl 32 then.
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: Tzar on July 11, 2011, 11:18:57 am: chadz has a weird sense of humour but i guess its funny in a way seeing that some of you accurately believes that its true :lol:
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: Torben on July 11, 2011, 11:20:27 am: Quote from: Tzar on July 11, 2011, 11:18:57 am
chadz has a weird sense of humour but i guess its funny in a way seeing that some of you accurately believes that its true :lol:

seriously tzar, suck my balls. my char just died, dont think its funny. im off. fuck this -.-
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: Vibe on July 11, 2011, 11:21:03 am: Show some respect to dead characters!!!
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: Peasant_Woman on July 11, 2011, 11:30:53 am: Quote from: Elerion on July 11, 2011, 10:03:50 am
spoilsport :(

You need to be more subtle. Next time add timestamps, maybe make the way the information is given be more confusing.
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: Tzar on July 11, 2011, 11:31:33 am: Quote from: Torben on July 11, 2011, 11:20:27 am
seriously tzar, suck my balls. my char just died, dont think its funny. im off. fuck this -.-

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Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: Lars on July 11, 2011, 11:36:42 am: Awesome, like this new feature, more space for new players
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: Ming on July 11, 2011, 11:48:34 am: this will be so unfair for players who played for so long to get to lv 34.
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: okiN on July 11, 2011, 11:56:48 am: Nobody told them they were safe. Death comes to us all.
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: Zoidberg on July 11, 2011, 11:59:53 am: Trololo this thread is full of trololo.
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: [ptx] on July 11, 2011, 12:08:05 pm: Snap. My lvl32 main just died...
Also, you only keep 1 heirloom point, not 1 heirloom D:
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: Dumertone on July 11, 2011, 12:31:12 pm: FATTEST...TROLLS...EVAR
Quote from: Elerion on July 11, 2011, 10:01:22 am
This just in from IRC:
trollface

Didn't ye noticed that?
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: Barbas on July 11, 2011, 12:43:36 pm: Thine character hath contracted syphilis, and in a short while perisheth.
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: Torben on July 11, 2011, 12:48:47 pm: Quote from: Barbas on July 11, 2011, 12:43:36 pm
Thine character hath contracted syphilis, and in a short while perisheth.

nice! show me to the whorehouse were i can get some of that!!
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: Vibe on July 11, 2011, 12:49:58 pm: Quote from: Barbas on July 11, 2011, 12:43:36 pm
Thine character hath contracted syphilis, and in a short while perisheth.

:lol:
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: Kingtrisp on July 11, 2011, 01:24:45 pm: Quote from: Barbas on July 11, 2011, 12:43:36 pm
Thine character hath contracted syphilis, and in a short while perisheth.

I believe it is in kings landing ...
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: LLJK_Brolocaust on July 12, 2011, 12:28:13 am: nm
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: DANK on July 12, 2011, 12:40:43 am: Quote from: okiN on July 11, 2011, 11:56:48 am
Nobody told them they were safe. Death comes to us all.
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Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: Kharn on July 12, 2011, 01:47:35 am: Every patch moves CRPG closer to native.

More and more people are the same level
More and more people have closer wpfs
More and more people have similar armor rating
More and more people don't have to work to make it to level 30
More and more people lose their heirlooms with every few patches
More and more people get their heirlooms gimped to the point they are only a slight bonus
Now if you try to level past 30 your character dies....

Each time we move closer to the day when hard work and dedication mean nothing.
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 12, 2011, 01:48:18 am: This thread has so much fail in it...

You all are too easy to troll... Just too easy...
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: LLJK_Brolocaust on July 12, 2011, 02:13:21 am: Yeah I'm almost completely sure that it's fake at this point, but I still wouldn't want to play my character right now if I was level 32+. The stakes are too high :shock:
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: Gheritarish le Loki on July 12, 2011, 02:17:47 am: Kharn, there is one thing very different with Native, you don´t earn anything in Native, the day after, you start from nothing.
You always win something in cRPG, xp, gold, or lose gold, but atleast you always do something for the future.
Since many of us played a lot, there is a time when they will be bored and need to find a new goal.
Eventualy they whine and bitch but they always play the game, some may quit but thet just find the strongwill to make a cure of this addictive game ;)
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: Sultan Eren on July 12, 2011, 02:21:22 am: Levelling above 31 is already so hard and their punishment is no heirloom points. This is just not fair if it is true. I retire regularly at 31 but you can't take the freedom to level above 31 saying that characters can be gone for good. :!:
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: Bars on July 12, 2011, 02:25:14 am: This is *uck, i played 1700 hours!!! and what now?! i cant take Bars because i am afraid he would die!

WHY?! and where is justice? :evil:
Title: Re: Random chance of death for old players
Post by: chadz on July 12, 2011, 02:29:06 am: We have done this prank now for the 4th or 5th time, but this is the first time people took it for real.

Seriously, what the fuck