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Strategus => Strategus General Discussion => Topic started by: Fearvich on August 03, 2014, 12:10:23 am

Title: Veluca
Post by: Fearvich on August 03, 2014, 12:10:23 am
I did a brief forum search and didn't find anything about why Veluca is untaken.
The Velucan "tits" (breast shaped gatehouse, or something like that) are near untakeable, it seems like it would be a very desirable castle. The tits have saved TKOV's capital many times.

What's the dealio?
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Legs on August 03, 2014, 12:21:34 am
"Doing things is hard so let's don't."
- KbW
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Noodlenrice on August 03, 2014, 12:30:09 am
Cuz Mb best afk clan NA
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Wesleysnipes on August 03, 2014, 01:09:47 am
"Playing dota, no time for 20 minutes of strat"

(Level 37)
-Aldo


Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Testicleez on August 03, 2014, 01:40:27 am
Squids need to hop off KbW's ass and start worrying about themselves instead. Yeah, we're moving at a slow pace so far in strat... Guess what, this round of strategus fucking blows regardless. "Yeah, let's condemn those guys for not playing a video game the way we want them to!" What happened to Calamari? That was a cool guy. The rest of you are just internet forum babies.

Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Noodlenrice on August 03, 2014, 01:51:41 am
Squids need to hop off KbW's ass and start worrying about themselves instead. Yeah, we're moving at a slow pace so far in strat... Guess what, this round of strategus fucking blows regardless. "Yeah, let's condemn those guys for not playing a video game the way we want them to!" What happened to Calamari? That was a cool guy. The rest of you are just internet forum babies.

Find me in Teamspeak if you have any further questions, you're dismissed.
Calamari left because of some differences over how we handle a specific faction. He recently just rejoined back however. I think most of us make fun of kbw because we would rather do that than argue with some Acre or EU guy about who can raise more dongers
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Testicleez on August 03, 2014, 02:03:42 am
Calamari left because of some differences over how we handle a specific faction. He recently just rejoined back however. I think most of us make fun of kbw because we would rather do that than argue with some Acre or EU guy about who can raise more dongers

Eh, I guess some people always have to find something to bitch & complain about. *shrugs* That's just Strat, I suppose.


Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: PsychoTwins on August 03, 2014, 03:28:28 am
Eh, I guess some people always have to find something to bitch & complain about. *shrugs* That's just Strat, I suppose.

Rip

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Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Malgalad on August 04, 2014, 03:35:26 am
 :mrgreen: and still have 2 EU castles are untaken. And I will do it . Don't forget support my siege.
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on August 04, 2014, 04:00:57 am
:mrgreen: and still have 2 EU castles are untaken. And I will do it . Don't forget support my siege.

You're my favorite chinaman.
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Wesleysnipes on August 05, 2014, 03:13:46 am
Why do you think strat is boring? KBW is a big part of it.
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Testicleez on August 05, 2014, 06:20:28 am
Yeah, the EU strat situation is also KbW's fault. It's actually KbW's fault Bannerlord is taking forever to come out... And don't even think about blaming Obama for this shit economy, it's KbW's fault (especially Aldo's).


http://forum.melee.org/strategus-general-discussion/restart-strat-early-with-last-strats-mechanics/ (http://forum.melee.org/strategus-general-discussion/restart-strat-early-with-last-strats-mechanics/) c dis

I'm not going to entirely throw the blame on the new strat mechanics, but come on... It's some lame shit, at least for us lazy Americans.
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Wesleysnipes on August 05, 2014, 06:28:51 am
Im talking about NA strat you dinky.
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Testicleez on August 05, 2014, 06:42:02 am
Im talking about NA strat you dinky.

I'm simply saying, you can't blame everything on a single faction. You took that literally? lol...

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Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: HardRice on August 05, 2014, 08:05:57 am
Why do you think strat is boring? KBW is a big part of it.
KbW's acts (or lack thereof) in strat 5 are a symptom of how crushingly tedious it is to actually do things this strat compared to the previous ones.

strat sucks dude
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Holiday203 on August 05, 2014, 08:41:58 am
Eh, I guess some people always have to find something to bitch & complain about. *shrugs* That's just Strat, I suppose.

I thought you quit too, but yet here you are on the forums? You and wesley can be little forum buddies and sell your looms together!
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Testicleez on August 05, 2014, 12:46:07 pm
I thought you quit too, but yet here you are on the forums? You and wesley can be little forum buddies and sell your looms together!

It's going to be a little while before I leave, I said on my thread I'd be sticking around for a bit. I don't have actual internet to play games or anything though. Limited to 8GB a month  :mad: :cry: :mad:
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Pappy on August 05, 2014, 02:16:41 pm
This strat sucks, and KbW isn't the only clan out there so get off its dick. They need to end this bullshit strat and get rid of these game breaking changes. I dont see anyone else jumping shit off, just a bunch of whining & crying bitches complaining about what others are not doing. All I know this strat is I have seen whole armies devastated from crime, and I never get battle xp. The most fun I had this strat was peasant and light armor field battles when it first started. Now everyone thinks they can only fight with shiny armies, but problem is nobody can afford to field more then one. I dont really care to play strat anymore, but still do out of remembrance of what that game used to be. That memory is fading though, and some days I just wanna watch it all burn.
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Pappy on August 05, 2014, 02:27:26 pm
I only ever played strat for the battles, for the xp in c-rpg. This was the first strat I actively participated in besides being my clan's pawn to move.. and its disappointing as fuck. 90% of the time I dont even bother checking for battles upcoming because there are never any. Pretty sure Im not the only one who just quit caring and checking, rosters been looking a bit fucky this strat, dotn think we can fill both sides for you

Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: StonedSteel on August 05, 2014, 03:45:47 pm
Wes man, why do you even bother? these kids dont do anything in strat cuz strats a war game. These kids dont like war, they dont want war, they want to be friends with everyone.

They just wanna have fun funny good times all the time everytime and make friends and be happy with everything and everyone.

They arnt going to make wars because they dont belong in war and cant handle warfare.
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Duster on August 05, 2014, 03:52:10 pm
Wes man, why do you even bother? these kids dont do anything in strat cuz strats a war game. These kids dont like war, they dont want war, they want to be friends with everyone.

They just wanna have fun funny good times all the time everytime and make friends and be happy with everything and everyone.

They arnt going to make wars because they dont belong in war and cant handle warfare.

What the fuck are you talking about
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: BaleOhay on August 05, 2014, 04:34:24 pm
I keep hearing about mechanics running things and making it impossible to fight and field armies. It can be done without a ton of effort. Horde is doing it with 6 people. No reason to blame the game. Granted I also do not care for the crime part but it was added to serve a purpose... To stop the camping.. Unfortunately that camping still happens so maybe all it did was slow down the active clans.
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Switchtense on August 05, 2014, 04:35:45 pm
This strat sucks, and KbW isn't the only clan out there so get off its dick. I dont see anyone else jumping shit off, just a bunch of whining & crying bitches complaining about what others are not doing.

With all due respect, fuck you.

If you have not seen anyone trying to get shit started, then you either have to pay attention, or keep your mouth shut.

 
I never get battle xp.

Once again, fuck you.

We have recently thrown several thousand shiny troops into battle. Yet all but one of those battles were lacking your presence.
We wasted shiny troops because there was no roster at all.
If you wanna bitch about getting no exp, then at least participate in battles. If you won't (for whatever reasons) just shut up.

Now everyone thinks they can only fight with shiny armies, but problem is nobody can afford to field more then one.

Stated this more than once already:
We got a 2k shiny army within a month. With only 4-5 people trading and one person camping a selling fief selling the goods.

Whoever says that shiny armies are not affordable is just trying to find silly excuses so people won't expect anything from them.
And before you bitch about that: No, we were not online 24/7, quite the contrary really.

All it needs is faction members you can trust.
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Pappy on August 05, 2014, 05:29:34 pm
With all due respect, fuck you.

No.. fuck you. Self righteous little twat with your no job living in moms basement sucking kool-aid from her teets while you point your finger at everyone and blame them for your shitty life, shitty battles, and my old friendgy jerkoff parents. Man the fuck up,  I cant be your papa but I will fuck your mom if you want.
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Pappy on August 05, 2014, 05:38:51 pm
I never would've picked Watto, I feel you quoted me out of context. I would've went with Boushh the bounty hunter
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Pappy on August 05, 2014, 05:50:49 pm
Also switchtense, you sure did take my generalized and non specific targeted statements awful personally. Which word did you find you associated with the most? I targeted "whining crying bitches", did this accurately describe you?

I dont pay enough attention to this game to know who you are, know who Byzantium is, or to know what 5-6 spergs you are referring to, what shiny armies your talking about, or what battles I missed. I did say I quit checking for battles though since there have not been any, and since you said your armies were wasted from lack of participation.. thanks for affirming that I am not alone in my apathy.

Your also right, I dont pay attention to know who is trying to jump what off. I dont care anymore, I just want this strat to be over. But my offer is still open about your mum
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Switchtense on August 05, 2014, 05:52:48 pm
No.. fuck you. Self righteous little twat with your no job living in moms basement sucking kool-aid from her teets while you point your finger at everyone and blame them for your shitty life, shitty battles, and my old friendgy jerkoff parents. Man the fuck up,  I cant be your papa but I will fuck your mom if you want.

Damn, totally got me there.
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Pappy on August 05, 2014, 06:05:59 pm
But Watto is treated so harshly yet he's a great guy! Boussh is just a secret Princess Leia, and there nothing wrong with that

For those 10 minutes before you find out he is a chick, Boussh is a badass with his thermal detonator.. and after he is a princess I would totally bang. It's a win/win. Watto is just some ass hole jewish stereotype who owned slaves, and was cast as a big nosed insect because of Walt Disney's antisemitic beliefs in preparation for the then pending backroom dealings that were taking place
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Wesleysnipes on August 05, 2014, 06:56:49 pm
Here's the thing Papa, the money is there. KBW keeps their S&D down. You can sure as hell have troops. So yes KBW IS a big part of NA gayness, same with OCCITAN. But you guys are the biggest faction in strat, I'll still continue to pick on you guys. And if you are getting mad at Switch and tell us you don't care about strat, why are you posting here?
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Pappy on August 05, 2014, 07:13:38 pm
And if you are getting mad at Switch and tell us you don't care about strat, why are you posting here?
I'm not mad at switch, I just like to shitpost. And I feel you on the gayness of strat, it makes my butt hurt to. Yeah we are big, yeah we dont do shit, yeah we got excuses for days, but I forgot my point or where I was going with this rant so I will end it was a irrelevant, but seemingly relevant and profound statement.

The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting- Sun Tzu

Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Wesleysnipes on August 05, 2014, 07:19:27 pm
"If you build it they will come"

KBW and LCOH tactics.
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Pappy on August 05, 2014, 07:29:43 pm
Here's the thing Papa, the money is there.

Also dont tell me the money is there, you dont know us. You haven't walked a mile in my shoes, or seen the idiocy firsthand and to truly know the level of corruption and backroom quid pro quo dealings that transpire in and plague our fiefs. We got jerkoff members wasting PP on bullshit like discounting donkeys and +3 pope hats, and that was just me so imagine what other BS others have got themselves into... yet you wanna tell me how deep my pockets are?! 
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Taser on August 05, 2014, 07:43:44 pm
I'd be surprised if aldo and other mb members don't have a few mil in silver each that they look at fondly for 2 seconds before closing strat and playing dota 2.
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on August 05, 2014, 08:02:13 pm
strategus sucks in every fucking way and its nobodys fault for not playing it, the only people at fault are the ones idiotic enough to play it, but every nerd is entitled to be mad at people for not being as big of a nerd as them, thats just nerd politics, so squids can be mad at KBW for not being as big of nerds as them, but really they are the dumb ones for playing the shit strat game

finally, we've settled this issue, jesus
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Chosen1 on August 05, 2014, 08:09:47 pm
"hi we aren't gonna do anything at all this strat despite being the biggest faction in NA but we'll keep posting sun tzu quotes as an excuse"

-KbW 2014
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Pappy on August 05, 2014, 10:42:35 pm
"hi i'm not gonna do anything at all this strat despite being the biggest (Enter Derogatory Remark Here)s in NA but i'll keep posting shit as an excuse"

-Chosen1 2014
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on August 05, 2014, 10:55:04 pm
Strat sucks because nobody plays it and nobody plays it because it sucks.

Ain't a thing that can be done. Its too late to administer CPR.
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Artyem on August 05, 2014, 11:05:35 pm
just restart the fucking game already
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Aldogalus on August 06, 2014, 12:47:33 am
1: It's our faction, our land, our s&d, our silver, our gear, our troops. If you don't like it, you can throat a fat hoagie. Downvote all you want, shitpost all you want, get noticeably upset all you want(and then some, its entertaining as fuck). We will continue with the same plan/continue playing the game as we please.
2: Seriously, suck one
3: Switch, I'm kinda confused as to why your post towards Papa took such an aggressive/malicious turn.
4: Heskey, I really enjoy your posts. Keepin it light, keepin it breezy. Keep it up
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: ArmStrike on August 06, 2014, 12:49:19 am
omfg, there's forum about Crpg? and ppl still playing strat???? holy shit, u nerds need to get a life,, like me, anyhow, going on my hot pot party in a bit, and  hok up with some bitches later, and hok up with more bitches after that, dont be jealous, not1 every1 have a rich dad, umad? duel me mid lane if u deer.
-the rich chinaman
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on August 06, 2014, 02:48:40 am
But would you KbW/MB guys go active if some large faction attacked you? I mean, yeah, this strat blows huge donkey cock; even though the mechanics had some poor changes, the majority of the problem is that people don't care/want to take time/don't have time (rofl r u kidding we're all nerds) to play it.

Would you have more than 1/2 of your players moving on the map in response to some large invasion? I'm sure the recent Krea inductees into the KbW machine (lol Krea you could have taken us tbh) would be active, but would the MB folks?

Just a question. I'm curious if your dudes would say "wtf those n1gg3rs attacked us lets GIT EM" or "lol we're getting wiped what nerds actually playing strat ROFL i bet they are all virgins"

SUPER NERD EDIT: this strat is not inherently more tedious than previous versions (unless strat 1 and 2 were different, wasn't around for that shit). The mechanics were not changed to make the UI more troublesome to navigate; in fact, the only major change was the crime mechanic which makes it so you can't afk in any fief you'd like for 2-3 days at a time without suffering consequences. I'm not defending the exact implementation of the crime mechanic, but for fuck sake, it isn't that bad.

The economy change was perceived as necessary. In fact, a very large problem was not the economy being too easy in last strat, but the presence of dupe-bugs for gear netting several millions of gold. If the bugs were solved, the economy was sufficiently slow enough to make sense for a long-term strategus round. However, most, or at least many factions received large gear-bugs, resulting in bloated gold reserves funding full-plate and top-tier weapon armies. If the bugs were fixed, things would have been fine, imo.
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Testicleez on August 06, 2014, 03:32:21 am
But would you KbW/MB guys go active if some large faction attacked you? I mean, yeah, this strat blows huge donkey cock; even though the mechanics had some poor changes, the majority of the problem is that people don't care/want to take time/don't have time (rofl r u kidding we're all nerds) to play it.

Would you have more than 1/2 of your players moving on the map in response to some large invasion? I'm sure the recent Krea inductees into the KbW machine (lol Krea you could have taken us tbh) would be active, but would the MB folks?

Just a question. I'm curious if your dudes would say "wtf those n1gg3rs attacked us lets GIT EM" or "lol we're getting wiped what nerds actually playing strat ROFL i bet they are all virgins"

SUPER NERD EDIT: this strat is not inherently more tedious than previous versions (unless strat 1 and 2 were different, wasn't around for that shit). The mechanics were not changed to make the UI more troublesome to navigate; in fact, the only major change was the crime mechanic which makes it so you can't afk in any fief you'd like for 2-3 days at a time without suffering consequences. I'm not defending the exact implementation of the crime mechanic, but for fuck sake, it isn't that bad.

The economy change was perceived as necessary. In fact, a very large problem was not the economy being too easy in last strat, but the presence of dupe-bugs for gear netting several millions of gold. If the bugs were solved, the economy was sufficiently slow enough to make sense for a long-term strategus round. However, most, or at least many factions received large gear-bugs, resulting in bloated gold reserves funding full-plate and top-tier weapon armies. If the bugs were fixed, things would have been fine, imo.

Yes, theoretically I think we'd have more people interested if something like that were to occur, but it's not like we're completely dependent upon that.

KbW has plans. It's not Christmas yet, folks... (at least i think we have plans............ fuck...)


Testicleez, KbW Strategus Diplomat/Mascot
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Bryggan on August 06, 2014, 04:12:46 am
Trading sucks.  It was okay back in the 'OMG they got unbroken mail shirt days', but now that you actually got to equip your men half ass not to get your flags capped it just takes too long.  Been way too long since I fought a battle, and honestly, I'm losing interest because of that.

So Aldo, load me up with gear and let me attack someone annoying.  Actually, load Dirk up with gear, and I'll attack him.
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Balikar on August 06, 2014, 04:16:49 am
I don't find the crime concept to be terrible.  It adds an interesting concept as far as blockades are concerned.  Again, I feel it needs a tweak.  Where do the soldiers go?  Imagine if they increased population.  Rather than say, 'Oh but that's free troops...'  I'd like to see  a rebellion of sorts if the population hits a certain point.  The fief returns to AI control, and all players in the fief are expelled out of it.   Upon attack, the gear the AI uses is already -2, or -4 (thus breaks afterward).  No loot for the winning army other than control of the fief. 

Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Hobb on August 06, 2014, 04:20:20 am
Veluca!!!
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Canary on August 06, 2014, 04:42:39 am
SUPER NERD EDIT: this strat is not inherently more tedious than previous versions (unless strat 1 and 2 were different, wasn't around for that shit).

Super entertaining history lesson: In the early strategus you farmed gold (or tickets, which seemed the more important back then) by sitting there without restrictions. There was no prosperity or S&D and there were no trade goods; there wasn't anything to manage about the fiefs themselves except for the visiting price. You could "enter" a fief or transfer things to anyone by being within a several hundred meter of them. Terrain on the map had no impact on gameplay.
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Adoptagoat on August 08, 2014, 02:32:08 am
"Veluca knows no king, but the King whose name is ROB."
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Taser on August 08, 2014, 02:51:06 am
"Veluca knows no king, but the King whose name is ROB."

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Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Bryggan on August 08, 2014, 03:14:01 am
I don't find the crime concept to be terrible.  It adds an interesting concept as far as blockades are concerned.  Again, I feel it needs a tweak.  Where do the soldiers go?

There is no trade going on and the people are starving.  They obviously turned cannibal.

And the sad thing about blockades is that they don't work unless people stare at their computers 24 hours a day.  Just sit in a nearby village, wait until most people are asleep or drunk, then quick march in. "Hooray!" You are the hero who brought exotic zebra skins to the starving townsfolk.  They put away their garrotes and butcher knives and dine merrily on the exotic zebra skins.
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Fearvich on August 09, 2014, 04:27:29 am
Veluca threw off the kbw attack? tit victory? Wish I was there.
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Taser on August 09, 2014, 06:18:10 am
Veluca threw off the kbw attack? tit victory? Wish I was there.

The kbw siege went like this..

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Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Jona on August 11, 2014, 09:29:48 pm
"Veluca knows no king, but the King God Emperor whose name is ROB."
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Horns_Archive on August 15, 2014, 01:09:28 am
The kbw siege went like this..

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He is just mad because we still have all the porn.

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Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Voncrow on August 17, 2014, 11:22:23 pm
He is just mad because we still have all the porn.

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or because that is basically what happened.
Title: Re: Veluca
Post by: Maple_Syrup on August 17, 2014, 11:30:42 pm
"He's mad we still have all the porn" -Horns (muted)