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Make athletics more useful: reduces fall damage etc
« on: January 19, 2011, 02:23:12 pm »
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athletics isn't that great.

agility increases move/runs speed by roughly just as much. I did a lil test a while ago and say 30 agility roughly same speed when running as 15 agility, 5 athletics. I read somewhere athletics is 5% movement but thats probably of base movement not effecting run speed. I got a 9 athletics char (will be 10 at lvl 30), and tbh it doesn't move THAT much faster than a normal 3-5 athletics char, even heavy armoured guys. the small bonus is pretty much useless, not like you can really outrun people or run out of swing reach, you still get backpeddled, you walk mega slowly up hills. only time I notice obvious advantage is on flat ground rushing an archer they get less free shots on me, and its easier to dodge arrows but only from far away.

so I suggest some secondary effects of athletics rather than suggesting you make it faster. I suggest firstly althletics exponentially reduces fall damage, so althletic stackers can jump down high distances unharmed. also penalty for walking up hills and such should be reduced alot depending on athletics, so you could run up hills somewhat. also would be nice if jump height could be improved but that sounds harder to implement, might be nice for arrow dodging though. I was also thinking of adding crouch like musket mod, but making skills controll the speed of the animation so you could use its quickly to dodge arrows or mele side swings :D

but idk how codable my suggestions are maybe someone else can come up with something better. its not exactly a gamebreaking issue but i'm bored.
« Last Edit: January 19, 2011, 02:25:53 pm by Banok »

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Re: Make athletics more useful: reduces fall damage etc
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2011, 02:36:35 pm »
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yeah disable gravity make tincans jumping 3 metres high :) *irony*

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Re: Make athletics more useful: reduces fall damage etc
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2011, 02:44:37 pm »
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Personnaly I would not like the "crouching" ability. I think it would screw some things up. But your idea about the fall damage is nice. Maybe increase the falling damage of heavy armor so the heavier ur armor is, the more damage you get but on the contrary, the lighter ur armor is less falling damage u'll get. Athletics could, like you said, help too about the falling damage. That would be a good idea! I mean c'mon! Try landing on ur feet without breakin any bones with an armor that is like half ur body weight!

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Re: Make athletics more useful: reduces fall damage etc
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2011, 02:58:18 pm »
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Whats ridiculous to me, is that a character with 3 agi, no ath, and the heaviest armor on in the game is almost as fast as me with 18 agi, 6 ath, and a light armor.  I should be able to run circles around such a character.

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Re: Make athletics more useful: reduces fall damage etc
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2011, 03:03:54 pm »
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With 3 agi and no athl. on my last build it is a significant advantage in melee having athl. as you can manouver around people. You just have to remember alot of people have it.
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Re: Make athletics more useful: reduces fall damage etc
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2011, 03:31:54 pm »
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I demand that with my 9 ath and pike I can polevault all over the place!  :twisted:
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Re: Make athletics more useful: reduces fall damage etc
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2011, 03:36:21 pm »
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I totally agree with this post, except the crouching thing

Athletics should make you a damn.. athlet!  compared to people with fewer points.

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Re: Make athletics more useful: reduces fall damage etc
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2011, 03:44:49 pm »
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I demand that with my 9 ath and pike I can polevault all over the place!  :twisted:

Hahahaha.  :mrgreen:

Crouching to dodge arrows and swings? Seriously?

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Re: Make athletics more useful: reduces fall damage etc
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2011, 05:52:37 pm »
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crouching i can agree with, as long as you cant fire a really long bow from this position.
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Re: Make athletics more useful: reduces fall damage etc
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2011, 06:22:04 pm »
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Athletics is fine atm in my opinion, but of course ninjas would never agree with that :).

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Re: Make athletics more useful: reduces fall damage etc
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2011, 06:37:41 pm »
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Probably not possible but if people want reduction to fall damage with high athletics maybe just maybe:

At 2 Athletics you get 5% less fall damage
At 5 Athletics you get 20% less fall damage
At 8 Athletics you get 40% less fall damage

No more tough else it would make ninjas too powerful imo.

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I couldn't care less honestly athletics is fine as is.
« Last Edit: January 19, 2011, 06:40:25 pm by Vexus »

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Re: Make athletics more useful: reduces fall damage etc
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2011, 07:11:45 pm »
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cool, implement it! or put also strength into the formula.
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Re: Make athletics more useful: reduces fall damage etc
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2011, 11:05:59 pm »
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Re: Make athletics more useful: reduces fall damage etc
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2011, 11:57:30 pm »
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stregthen athletics, i'd like that.


At 2 Athletics you get 5% less fall damage
At 5 Athletics you get 20% less fall damage
At 8 Athletics you get 40% less fall damage
at 3 +5%
at 5 +10%
at 8 +15% less fall damage/more jumping hight

This would be addional to what athletics does allready so i wouldn't reduce damage any more nore increase the speed.

Weigth should come more to effect so tincans are really slow, i can't get the image out of my brain 5 tincans running towards me full speed and i hadn't the smallest chance to outrun them with practicly no weight on me.

I can't see crouching coming out of the mod, nearly impossible if it wasn't implemented by the M&B devs yet.
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Re: Make athletics more useful: reduces fall damage etc
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2011, 12:09:03 am »
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Crouch is useless on how the game is maybe for mount & blade next expansion on sneak attacks maybe but crouching is useless apart of hiding.