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Throwing... could you possibly make it any more useless?
« on: June 07, 2011, 01:46:40 am »
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As if throwing wasn't difficult already... now you only get half the ammo. Who in their right mind though this needed a nerf?

I used the "Skip to 30" option today and made 4 throwing characters to try to different specs. Throwing is by far the worst thing I've tried in cRPG. I'm glad I didn't make a character the old fashion way as I would have be really pissed if I spent all the time necessary to get to 30 only to realize how useless throwing is.

I can't be the only one who thinks so as I haven't seen a single other player that was speced in throwing today or... as far as I can remember recently.

I mean honestly... who would ever put 6 points in power throw just so they can throw ONE LANCE that takes TWO F***ING SLOTS!!!!!

There's no point in even doing a detailed analysis as throwing is so clearly broken anyone who tries playing a thrower with the recent changes will end up deleting their character in less than an hour.
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Re: Throwing... could you possibly make it any more useless?
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2011, 01:51:51 am »
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Rumor is it's getting buffed next patch.
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Re: Throwing... could you possibly make it any more useless?
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2011, 02:01:10 am »
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Rumor is it's getting buffed next patch.

I hope so, I miss facing throwers. :)
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Re: Throwing... could you possibly make it any more useless?
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2011, 03:31:01 am »
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I agree, throwers added some diversity to the mid-range game, and now that they're gone we've seen an explosion in the number of crossbowmen running amok. Personally I prefer throwers because they're a blast to try and fight in a large meele and they give a nice solid counter to kiting bowmen.
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Re: Throwing... could you possibly make it any more useless?
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2011, 04:12:35 am »
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lol throwing works just fine for me. I go with two lances and no amour. People think im just some noob. that changes quickly after i 1-shot them and steal their stuff. Throwing lances do alot of dmg with their poke. and if they back off i can almost kill any one including people in black amour.


it sucks u don't get much but that's half the fun!
But  it would not be so bad if u could pick them up after killing some1.

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Re: Throwing... could you possibly make it any more useless?
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2011, 04:20:18 am »
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as a 2h/thrower hybrid  for 6 gens, yeah its pretty much useless now, 4 axes wont kill someone that's not a a peasant or has already been beaten to near death : (    it still works well against cav when they're riding at you though. give some more ammo is my main complaint, I'm still accurate : )   and I miss my large bag of balanced heavy throwing axes.

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Re: Throwing... could you possibly make it any more useless?
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2011, 04:45:59 am »
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The thing is Homey it was the hybrid throwers that often caused a lot of the complaints.

Now I'll admit I think hybrid thrower should be an option, just not as powerful as it used to be.

However the changes brought in to stop hybrid throwers being so effective totally crippled dedicated throwers, which seems to be many peoples biggest issue with the changes that were made.

I wouldn't mind if the fixes to the current state of things gave hybrids a little bit back but really it is the dedicated throwers that need the most help, and they need that help without making hybrids very powerful again.

It's a difficult balancing act.
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Re: Throwing... could you possibly make it any more useless?
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2011, 05:05:21 am »
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I believe that implementing even a few things that were discussed in the balance topic would help in many ways. The only option is to be patient and wait for the next update.

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Re: Throwing... could you possibly make it any more useless?
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2011, 05:07:19 am »
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I hated all the incoming missiles.

But I think the dedicated throwers got boned.  and not the good kind where they got a glass of scotch.
I do not think I have seen anything except war darts in quite some time.  and those are laughable.

hybrid throwers needed to be toned down a bit, but cutting the ammo in half, AND adding all of those requirement pretty much killed an entire class
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Re: Throwing... could you possibly make it any more useless?
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2011, 05:08:01 am »
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I find my heirloomed stones to be very effective.
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Re: Throwing... could you possibly make it any more useless?
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2011, 05:22:00 am »
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Re: Throwing... could you possibly make it any more useless?
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2011, 11:45:56 am »
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I wish it was more then rumour. I'm not sure if I've had any influence on the devs decisions on how to rebalance throwing at all. It would be nice if they came to discuss it, since it's the hot topic right now and apparently everyone agrees throwing needs some careful ommph.
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Re: Throwing... could you possibly make it any more useless?
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2011, 05:24:36 pm »
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the ammo&slot nerf woud have been enoug there whas no need to screw whit wpf and all that, personally still think some devs have some serious rage targeted at throwers :mrgreen:..
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Re: Throwing... could you possibly make it any more useless?
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2011, 12:14:59 am »
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Nerfing hybrid throwers made sense because it was making "classic" melee engagements complicated, but the changes were crippling to pure throwers.  This PT-requires-WPF thing is just not the right solution; either that or the ammo-slots have to go.

My build has 12 PT, 107 wpf in throwing, and 1-hit kills with throwing lances are very absurdly rare, especially since they're even harder to aim than before.

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Re: Throwing... could you possibly make it any more useless?
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2011, 01:15:09 am »
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Oh also, yes they can make throwing more useless. I can think of one thing, maybe two, that they didn't nerf.
I'll throw even when the weapons are gone. I can always throw punches and throw up.