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cRPG => Events & Tournaments => Topic started by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on April 07, 2016, 03:44:05 am

Title: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on April 07, 2016, 03:44:05 am
Hey guys awhile back I had a poll for a DTV tournament and it seemed like a lot of people really would like to do it. I need some help coming up with rules/team sizes/how it would be run/and what maps to play on.



Here's what I got so far:
5 player limit per team
Scoring is based on how many rounds you get in, the further you go the better your score. If two teams complete the entire thing than we will do a tie breaker for who gets the furthest.
Rewards for each person who kills a named bot on the team(screen shot required)
We would do it over a week or two and the teams have to get one of the people running(me and permafrost right now, hopefully some more will be added to help out) to spectate and watch the match.
It would be on the events server if we can get DTV to work on it(havent tried).
Rewards to the first, second, and third placing teams as well. Maybe some titles? Who knows.
cav limited one per team?


Please give me some suggestions and feedback, want to make this as fun as possible. If you have ideas for rewards let us know but its up to dupre on what can be given out.
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Sparvico on April 07, 2016, 03:48:27 am
Should also state very clearly whether cavalry is allowed or not, as you can game the dtv bots somewhat easily with it.

The other thing is that the event you described isn't really a tournament in the usual crpg sense, as there is only one round. That's just semantics though.
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on April 07, 2016, 03:56:16 am
Should also state very clearly whether cavalry is allowed or not, as you can game the dtv bots somewhat easily with it.

The other thing is that the event you described isn't really a tournament in the usual crpg sense, as there is only one round. That's just semantics though.
Well its a tournament in the way your team is competing against others. And for cav i think it should be limited to one per team at the most.
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Jona on April 07, 2016, 04:16:21 am
Idk, I'd strongly advocate for it being hardcore old-school dtv... open village map(s), no cav, no exploiting the maps to keep things fair... just straight up S-keying to victory. The truest test of DTV skill. And I'd suggest not including the bonus for killing the named bots, would just cause teams to fight amongst themselves (although I guess that might be a good thing... weed out the weak teams from the strong ones).

And might I suggest the rewards be something along the lines of:

Tristan_of_Erzoth, The ultimate cock blocker has entered the battlefield!
Tristan_of_Erzoth, Calradia's most effective chastity belt has entered the battlefield!
Tristan_of_Erzoth, The poonanny protector has entered the battlefield!
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Bronto on April 07, 2016, 03:20:54 pm
Totally agree with Jona, old-school hardcore DTV style. No cav, too easy to exploit, hell just the other day we had three people, me ELDAR BOSS and Godwin go almost the entire way because two of us were cav. You just circle them and it's game over for bots. Probably would've gone the entire way and ELDAR BOSS might've, but I had to leave so I don't know what happened after that.

Anyhow, the named bots thing shouldn't affect your score if the true tone of the competition is to get the furthest. I would say limit maps to open maps and no exploitation of bots. No hiding under bridges, or behind fences, or on roofs. Just good ol' S-Key overhead spam to victory!
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Zeus_ on April 07, 2016, 04:58:03 pm
And when people (admins) are spectating in DTV they spawn a certain amount of bots depending on what lvl they are, and i feel like an extra 5-7 bots could change the course of the round with only 5 people playing.

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Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Dupre on April 07, 2016, 07:05:37 pm
Maybe 3 maps per a team? I would suggest an open map with cav, open map with out cav, and a small close quarters map(shieldwall).
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on April 07, 2016, 07:31:39 pm
Yeah I think some limitations to cav should be a thing, but IMO real DTV has always been shield walls and stuff. I remember way back when it was defend the village forming shield walls in houses and fighting our way through the waves together. Never really been about kiting hordes of bosses IMO.


And when people (admins) are spectating in DTV they spawn a certain amount of bots depending on what lvl they are, and i feel like an extra 5-7 bots could change the course of the round with only 5 people playing.

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I'll have to get TeutonicPaladin to unquit(lol) and come back to win it for me single handedly
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Zeus_ on April 07, 2016, 07:38:38 pm
Yeah I think some limitations to cav should be a thing, but IMO real DTV has always been shield walls and stuff. I remember way back when it was defend the village forming shield walls in houses and fighting our way through the waves together. Never really been about kiting hordes of bosses IMO.


I'll have to get TeutonicPaladin to unquit(lol) and come back to win it for me single handedly

or Neo_Qc
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on April 07, 2016, 11:41:48 pm
also this could easily be an EU/NA joint tournament since it isnt PVP. I might not be able to watch over the EU servers for the majority of theirs but I'm sure we could find a few trust worthy admins on the EU side of things to moderate for them.
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: RD_Professor on April 08, 2016, 03:35:08 am
I'd also like to make my team: Me, Jona, Nehvar, Kazy, Gallon or Plumbo (if he's back from quitting yet)
Betrayal :(
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Zeus_ on April 08, 2016, 03:41:05 am
Betrayal :(

damn, make it a 6 person team!!
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Hellsing on April 08, 2016, 09:53:38 am
Too easy, just grab some Stromgarde vetereans and win this without a single swing coz uthyr will do everything soloish :oops:
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Keshian on April 09, 2016, 03:43:07 am
My biggest concern is time.  Each team could be going for 1-2 hours.  Could add up to a lot if they go a lot of rounds.
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Malaclypse on April 09, 2016, 03:59:54 am
Yeah I think some limitations to cav should be a thing, but IMO real DTV has always been shield walls and stuff. I remember way back when it was defend the village forming shield walls in houses and fighting our way through the waves together. Never really been about kiting hordes of bosses IMO.

Man I loved being the stalwart shielder, protecting my team from hordes of angry bots, camping some doorway until I inevitably got tk'd. Some of those maps were really kickass, too. That one coastal town right on the beach with a couple nord style two story buildings with open faces/walls was my favorite back then!

Assuming this isn't STF only and actually takes place, 1h/pole/shield, LFG. Also, I like Jona's idea for titles as potential rewards.
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on April 09, 2016, 10:44:13 am
Idea for named bot prizes: a +1 version of one of their weapons. Not as OP as a +3 but worth less than a free LP. Could also just be like 100k gold or somethin
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: RD_Professor on April 13, 2016, 03:38:23 am
Hope this is still in the works, a DTV tournament is the only tournament i can win in this game
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on April 13, 2016, 04:09:47 am
Hope this is still in the works, a DTV tournament is the only tournament i can win in this game
GIB MAP SUGGESTIONS
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Zeus_ on April 13, 2016, 05:02:23 am
GIB MAP SUGGESTIONS

rizi
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Kadeth on April 13, 2016, 05:49:53 am
a DTV tournament is the only tournament i can win in this game

Wanna join my team, m8?

Here's the current line-up:

kadeth
rattus
forgot this guy's name, but he's a plated 2h monster
kazy
???
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Malaclypse on April 13, 2016, 06:01:01 am
forgot this guy's name, but he's a plated 2h monster

That 3 man run the other night, hot dang, fun stuff. Zahrale was the 2h, he's a cRPG newbie (doesn't have a forum account yet AFAIK), mostly played single player mods soo.. perfect DTV training lol.

Def gotta figure out what that map we were on is. I've also gotten papa Rhalzo to say he may be down to join up as a second dedicated shielder.
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Kadeth on April 15, 2016, 04:54:39 am
That 3 man run the other night, hot dang, fun stuff. Zahrale was the 2h, he's a cRPG newbie (doesn't have a forum account yet AFAIK), mostly played single player mods soo.. perfect DTV training lol.

Def gotta figure out what that map we were on is. I've also gotten papa Rhalzo to say he may be down to join up as a second dedicated shielder.

I don't think Kazy really understood what I was talking about when I asked him to join our team, might have to count him out =^(

We'll definitely do a great job with Rhalzo on our side. Still need one more though !
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: RD_Professor on April 15, 2016, 07:14:50 am
Pu
I don't think Kazy really understood what I was talking about when I asked him to join our team, might have to count him out =^(

We'll definitely do a great job with Rhalzo on our side. Still need one more though !
I'm in a professional DTV clan, is that good enough? Currently running archer on my main but I can easily switch that to meleu
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Malaclypse on April 15, 2016, 07:18:18 am
PuI'm in a professional DTV clan, is that good enough? Currently running archer on my main but I can easily switch that to meleu

I'm sure Kazy will be very sought after lol. Not sure what his native language is, he's a South American fellow though isn't he? I hope he gets in on this because DTV is like his home.

Me (Rattus)
Kadeth
Hrhalzo_Strongshaft?
Professor
Zahrale?

I was wondering if we could actually use an archer, with that lineup we'll have two shielders, two zerg pole/2hand, and then whatever you wanna play Prof. Of course you really can't beat plate + STR in DTV lol.

For some map suggestions, here a few I've hit up in the past few days that I've thought were pretty decent fun/balance/spawn type wise:

Tadsamesh
Istiniar
Serindiar
Yaragar
Iyindah
DTV Ozin Sea Raid (fuck ye, hard one, close spawns, tight quarters)
Dumar

Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: RD_Professor on April 15, 2016, 07:20:30 am
Well my old goodie is 48-3 but I think i'll respec to something more moderate like 42-9, maybe even 36-15. Polearm, ofc.
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Malaclypse on April 15, 2016, 07:22:48 am
Well my old goodie is 48-3 but I think i'll respec to something more moderate like 42-9, maybe even 36-15. Polearm, ofc.

36/12 is a BEAST build in battle in lighter armor, probably one of my favorites (along with its inverse, 12/36, in as HEAVY of armor as you can wear, lol)- hits super hard and without being slowed down by armor I can keep up with 6-7 ath more heavily dressed guys.
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: RD_Professor on April 15, 2016, 07:28:50 am
I've been fat for too long I can't go back to lighter armor. Gonna wear my +5 tinnie set and try out my new +3 germy poleaxe
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Kadeth on April 15, 2016, 07:36:18 am
Pretty sure Kazy's from Japan. Definitely a DTV icon though.

PuI'm in a professional DTV clan, is that good enough?

Was that the clan started by that Australian fellow, 51L3NC3R or something?
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: RD_Professor on April 15, 2016, 07:49:57 am
Pretty sure Kazy's from Japan. Definitely a DTV icon though.

Was that the clan started by that Australian fellow, 51L3NC3R or something?

Yes indeeder. I'm the only psuedomember left really. Unless you count alts, then probably like 2 more as well.
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on April 15, 2016, 11:14:54 am
cancelled unless someone else hosts(got banned for 30 days)
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Dupre on April 15, 2016, 11:34:50 am
Not cancelled. I'll host it.
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on April 15, 2016, 11:47:49 am
Not cancelled. I'll host it.
I got told that I'll be unbanned in 2 days? If thats true I'll still help.
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Jona on April 15, 2016, 03:35:33 pm
Have any rules/maps/times been decided upon yet?

Also I can confirm, Kazy is from Japan. I'm guessing he can pull off semi-decent ping because there's a fiber optic cable linking NA directly to Japan, while poor aussies need to connect by going all the way around the world, or at least all the way up to Japan, then over to the east.
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Zeus_ on April 15, 2016, 06:25:18 pm
I'd also like to make my team: Me, Jona, Nehvar, Kazy, Gallon or Plumbo (if he's back from quitting yet)

I dont appreciate you stealing Kazy from my team

I havent even asked anyone else if they're able to make it so...

For Now, Its Me, Jona (he doesnt have a choice), Kazy (who's on all the time)

Dupre, you're also invited to my team, as im sure you will also want to participate.
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Kadeth on April 16, 2016, 01:29:20 am
Have any rules/maps/times been decided upon yet?

Also I can confirm, Kazy is from Japan. I'm guessing he can pull off semi-decent ping because there's a fiber optic cable linking NA directly to Japan, while poor aussies need to connect by going all the way around the world, or at least all the way up to Japan, then over to the east.

http://www.submarinecablemap.com/

=(
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Jona on April 16, 2016, 01:39:35 am
Oh hey, there are a few headed your way. Clearly they take the long way to chicago from wherever they connect in cali, though.
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: RD_Professor on April 21, 2016, 11:40:50 pm
Have any rules/maps/times been decided upon yet?

We've selected two out of the three maps, but the last one is a tough call right now. As for the rules, we've decided on a general framework but still need to work on the details. As for times, well, that's probably going to wait until we've got all the lil bits sussed out.
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: Tiger on April 22, 2016, 05:50:03 am
This sounds fun. Any team I can join?
Title: Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED
Post by: The Wicked Reach on April 26, 2016, 01:32:47 am
 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D Finally!! The tournament I've been waiting for!


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I respect your opinion Jona, but personally, I love exploiting maps and using cav.  I do think we should limit Cav to 1, but knowing how to exploit maps takes more skill and collaboration than people think.  S-keying is good, but a lot more riskier, no matter how skilled you and your team are.  People don't realize that there is a danger to pulling or kiting bots...once the anchor dies, the mob is unleashed and even more difficult to defeat. 

Title Rewards are a brilliant idea!

Also, let's not be afraid to use maps that have ballistas!