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Offline Wildling

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Add over head spear attack (with shield)
« on: May 25, 2011, 08:20:31 pm »
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The Vikingr mod let's you chose between overhead and regular stab when you press 'x' - And is really usefull for dedicated spearmen. It's really hard to fight any class with a spear and shield... On the other hand, spearmen were the most generic men in the army and numerous. 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzNr1iAJQS8&NR=1

Move to 3:40, a good example

« Last Edit: May 27, 2011, 04:28:23 am by Wildling »

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Re: Add over head spear attack (with shield)
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2011, 09:13:59 pm »
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a-fucking-men, +1

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Re: Add over head spear attack (with shield)
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2011, 09:51:03 pm »
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Yeah except using spear overhead like that doesn't make any fucking sense in the real world. It's great for art pieces and such thought.
Why is everybody telling me to think? I think, I just don't show it.

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Re: Add over head spear attack (with shield)
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2011, 10:48:38 pm »
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Yeah except using spear overhead like that doesn't make any fucking sense in the real world. It's great for art pieces and such thought.

wat (no offense)

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Re: Add over head spear attack (with shield)
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2011, 11:58:01 pm »
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Look
Suggest you look at Marathon's posted video. If the animation changes so you raised it to shoulder height that would be find by me, stabbing over obstacles is a pain in the ass stabbing from the waist.
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Re: Add over head spear attack (with shield)
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2011, 01:20:50 am »
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Look
Suggest you look at Marathon's posted video. If the animation changes so you raised it to shoulder height that would be find by me, stabbing over obstacles is a pain in the ass stabbing from the waist.


Ah, didn't see that thread, anyhow.. I see no reason to not make overhead spear attack happen. It should've been there from the start.

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Re: Add over head spear attack (with shield)
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2011, 02:09:10 am »
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Now design a weakness, this will be the only weapon that would be able to strike while still being protected by the shield.

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Re: Add over head spear attack (with shield)
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2011, 02:15:53 am »
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Now design a weakness, this will be the only weapon that would be able to strike while still being protected by the shield.

noone is saying the shield still protects you when you thrust.  its no different than the current understanded stab except its overhand and attacks the top vector.  So blocking a spear, or multiple spearmen, isnt a cakewalk like it is currently.

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Re: Add over head spear attack (with shield)
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2011, 09:09:12 am »
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Yeah except using spear overhead like that doesn't make any fucking sense in the real world. It's great for art pieces and such thought.
Errrr, what?

I'm all for an overhead spear attack. It will mean a few more spear+shielders which were quite common in medieval Europe as militia and cheap units.

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Re: Add over head spear attack (with shield)
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2011, 04:04:23 pm »
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Errrr, what?

I'm all for an overhead spear attack. It will mean a few more spear+shielders which were quite common in medieval Europe as militia and cheap units.

This. 1+

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Re: Add over head spear attack (with shield)
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2011, 06:59:01 pm »
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Yeah except using spear overhead like that doesn't make any fucking sense in the real world. It's great for art pieces and such thought.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL3-GpZQdS4

Watch n' learn m8 :)
Not sure which part it is in though, but watch all of it anyway, 'tis great!

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Re: Add over head spear attack (with shield)
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2011, 08:00:23 pm »
+1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL3-GpZQdS4

Watch n' learn m8 :)
Not sure which part it is in though, but watch all of it anyway, 'tis great!
Watching this whole thing...

I am disappointed.
Yeah, there are some times where they Held their spears in overarm position when standing in formation, But man did they have absolutely no striking distance when they did. I laughed.

However, when actually doing mock fights you see them using underarm style, just lifting their arm into position.
Yeah, Good argument bro.  Overarm use of spear is bad when in formation. It is a damn fact. It does however look really heroic and manly to see overarm spear usage when not in formation -- as you will see on pottery and such. Pottery designed to sell. Not to be accurate depictions of battle. That is like saying you go and watch war movies like rambo to know how soldiers actually fight. Good logic.
If you want to stab from above, you just raise your arm and stab. You don't switch the grip and cut your spear length in half. Hell, you can even raise it to head level and still thrust under arm with all your length.
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Re: Add over head spear attack (with shield)
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2011, 09:45:28 pm »
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How will you see if you need to down block or up block? If it is possible to solve that I support this.
Would be a nice addition to the thrust attack from horse as well. It is just silly that you just need to down block...

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Re: Add over head spear attack (with shield)
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2011, 12:20:19 am »
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL3-GpZQdS4

Watch n' learn m8 :)
Not sure which part it is in though, but watch all of it anyway, 'tis great!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzNr1iAJQS8&NR=1

Move to 3:40, a good example


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Re: Add over head spear attack (with shield)
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2011, 01:58:03 am »
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Aye Wildling, nice example that  :D

Marathon:
Wow ... Yeah that was what i meant, sure ...   :?
Can't argue with a well supported "fact" either.
So uhm.You're right n' i'm wrong apparently *shrug*


 
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