Horses have no natural predators

[Chestaclese]

With the nerf to throwing horses are running around unafraid. Either rebuff a range type to deal with this menace or nerf horses.

[Rumblood]

Prepare for awesome bar reduction.



...but yes, the observation is correct.

Also be prepared to have Horse Archers be listed as the natural predator, ignoring the 'horse' part of 'archer'.

[PhantomZero]

Pikes? Crossbows? Arrows? I'm sorry your teammates don't aim for the horses.

Easily the biggest horse predator is awareness.

[AlbaTiger]

Pikes? Crossbows? Arrows? I'm sorry your teammates don't aim for the horses.

Easily the biggest horse predator is awareness.

So yeah going by that you have 1/4 of the main horse deterrent reduced considerably because of the changes to throwing.

You THEN have to factor in the number of slots spears and pikes take up which has resulted in far fewer of them on the field, as well as the larger crossbows and bows having the same drawback usually resulting in the ranged having much less chance to protect themselves against cav.

Now I'm not going to throw away my dedicated thrower but the changes to throwing have, in my opinion, been very badly implemented compared to the only minor changes suffered by other dedicated classes.

Horse Archer vs Horse Thrower used to be an unfair fight but with luck, skill and/or timing the Thrower could win ... pre-patch that fight is even more slanted towards the Horse Archer.

[Patricia]

Tell that to the bolts, arrows, axes and other assortment of shit flying at my horse.

[Camaris]

Just create a cheap pike.
Example:

Wooden Pike - 1500 Gold
Speed 80
Range 180
Thrust 15 Pierce
No Swings.
Stops Horses
Sheatable
2 Slots

Short Wooden Pike - 1000 Gold
Speed 85
Range 155
Thrust 15 Pierce
No Swings.
Stops Horses.
Sheatable
1 Slots

Those weapons could be used by 1-Hand / 2-Hand as simple Horse-Stoppers.
Because of low damage they have no other place in combat.

[Malaclypse]

I've been using a pike a lot more since the patch, TBH, now that I know not everyone is going to just carry one in their pocket, I feel it's my duty as a polearms user to do what I can to assist teammates against both infantry and cavalry.

[Seawied]

I've been using a pike a lot more since the patch, TBH, now that I know not everyone is going to just carry one in their pocket, I feel it's my duty as a polearms user to do what I can to assist teammates against both infantry and cavalry.

you would unfortunately be a minority. For this, I applaud you.

Chestacles, I feel that your concern is sound, and I have also come to the same conclusion as you have. This patch will be the patch of the horse.


The truth is, people are going to do what gives them a nice set of kills. There might be one or two people who value teamwork and strategy over KDR, but everyone wants to be superman. I don't think chadz accounted for that in the last patch.

[Lactose_the_intolerant]

Lulz, another one of these threads...

"omagad, its the end of the world as we know it" thats what you people sound like

seriously i'm going to start posting screenshots of me couching my lance through a pack of 20 enemies who just came out of spawn and not even one turning round to check!...


On foot im polearm i go round with a pike and a great long axe that acts as a secondary weapon...secondary yea cuz the pike is awesome! The ultimate teamplay weapon. It stuns my enemies with its long range while my buddy takes advantage of the stun to kill him...
Or i steal frags and i tend to be near the top of the scoreboards

so pike isnt just an anti cav weapon! Stop seeing the pike as a waste of your slot selections!

[Gorath]

I dunno, the cav on TunaTown seem to take note of my hoplite style with my red tassel spear/pike/bamboo spear (depending on mood) just fine.  Horses aren't an issue as long as the length of their lances are kept in check.

[Cyclopsided]

Horses have natural predators in the water. This is why they are on land. They all fear the infamous Pike.

[Malaclypse]

Horses have natural predators in the water. This is why they are on land. They all fear the infamous Pike.

+1

[Zergmar]

time for devoted pikemen

[Spawny]

Lulz, another one of these threads...

"omagad, its the end of the world as we know it" thats what you people sound like

seriously i'm going to start posting screenshots of me couching my lance through a pack of 20 enemies who just came out of spawn and not even one turning round to check!...


On foot im polearm i go round with a pike and a great long axe that acts as a secondary weapon...secondary yea cuz the pike is awesome! The ultimate teamplay weapon. It stuns my enemies with its long range while my buddy takes advantage of the stun to kill him...
Or i steal frags and i tend to be near the top of the scoreboards

so pike isnt just an anti cav weapon! Stop seeing the pike as a waste of your slot selections!

Yesterday was a particular bad round I whitnessed. DRZ_Naduril came charging in on his courser just after round start. He came from the front, so I downblocked his light lance.
He then proceeded to run through our team from the FRONT and killed 4 people in 1 pass. He came out the other end without damage and killed 16 players that round.
Kinda looked like nobody even tried to stop him.

[Siiem]

I heard that horse is actually quite the nice meal. So... horse steak anyone