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So, Arrows are actually paper airplanes now...
« on: July 12, 2011, 07:19:32 pm »
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So.  I got on last night, and was surprised to shoot my own foot with my strong bow, while aiming 45 degrees up...

The Missile speed is SO slow.  It stupid.  I know everyone likes to bitch and complain about archery, but it already sucked.  And now it is only viable at extreme close range, and then it is a fail because we can't go through armor, so we hit once, twice, or three times, then we get one hit by a two hand spammer.  When I turn to run, to maybe get a fourth or fifth shot (to maybe almost kill a 2 hander tin can), people ridicule me and call me a delayer.  That is the only way Archers can get kills one on one now. 

Now we can't ever try to shoot ast people far away.  We have to leed them like 10 feet at 40 paces.  So stupid.  Please just take archery back to a week ago.  We still did nought for damage, but at least we we could hit people, and have a small chance. 

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Re: So, Arrows are actually paper airplanes now...
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2011, 07:28:12 pm »
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Good thing we got another topic for this, as the other ones are full already.

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Re: So, Arrows are actually paper airplanes now...
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2011, 07:43:15 pm »
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Re: So, Arrows are actually paper airplanes now...
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2011, 07:44:30 pm »
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Honestly though. If you see a rampaging plater wading through a fight to get at the archer, no one really thinks

"What did Legolas do at the Battle of Helms Deep."
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Re: So, Arrows are actually paper airplanes now...
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2011, 07:45:10 pm »
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3997HZuWjk

"150 miles per hour"  :rolleyes:

Your video proves his point, that arrows are absurdly slow.

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Re: So, Arrows are actually paper airplanes now...
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2011, 07:53:39 pm »
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Honestly though. If you see a rampaging plater wading through a fight to get at the archer, no one really thinks

"What did Legolas do at the Battle of Helms Deep."

Just need some wooden pikes in the ground, and poopoof you feel safe
Howard Hill killed 3 elephants with his bow and special arrows shooting the heart.
And well, if you want to be immortal and unkillable, go solo, that will fix it xD
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Re: So, Arrows are actually paper airplanes now...
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2011, 07:59:22 pm »
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"150 miles per hour"  :rolleyes:

Your video proves his point, that arrows are absurdly slow.

lol Does it say that ? Damn. I ought to turn the sound on.

But what I'm saying is that arrows don't go through plate easily.

I agree that arrows should be devastating to anything NOT designed to take them, but there are armors and builds that are designed to counter archers.

In fact, my in game build and armor is designed specifically for counter-archery and scare tactics without a shield.

As for the speed, I think it's alright. It look like it's going well over 150mph to me.
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Re: So, Arrows are actually paper airplanes now...
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2011, 10:22:23 pm »
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I don't know the speed thing exactly, but as of the last patch I don't even bother to shoot at anything over about 30-40 yards because by then I'm just lobbing an arrow at someone that won't still be there when the arrow gets there anyway and it seems to be a waste of an arrow.  Also, shooting at defending archers from below the walls is now nearly impossible.  It's great on defense because you can just drop arrows on people without fear of retribution, but on offense you have to try to lob the arrow ABOVE the defending archer and have it fall down on them in order to score a hit.  Otherwise you just end up dropping into the wall.

I'm still not sure why arrow speed was reduced so drastically (or even adjusted at all).  Archers were already very minimal on most servers and only the REALLY good ones had any sort of impact in a battle.  A longbow should not fire an arrow slower than a light crossbow.  It should be about mid-range for a crossbow (maybe 50 missle speed).  I have been using a strong/horn bow and may have to switch to longbow just in the hopes of being able to fire UPWARD at a defender on a wall.
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Re: So, Arrows are actually paper airplanes now...
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2011, 03:08:46 am »
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3997HZuWjk

Same show different Episode: The Long bow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnPcyGjYZmc

This whole episode is really cool and I suggest that anyone who is interested medieval archery and general tactics check it out. Plus it has a great quote at the end in regards to the Battle of Crecy:

"It's a great shame so many French noblemen had been killed or brought down by men of no value." (IE archers)
-French Grand Conic 

700 years later the 2 handers continue the French perspective. Too bad for the French, they didn't have chadz on their side to change the physics of the world.

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Re: So, Arrows are actually paper airplanes now...
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2011, 03:09:48 am »
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Game wise, it seems that a longbow strike should be able to puncture armour at close range. Currently this is not the case.
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Re: So, Arrows are actually paper airplanes now...
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2011, 03:22:13 am »
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I'm still not sure why arrow speed was reduced so drastically (or even adjusted at all).

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Re: So, Arrows are actually paper airplanes now...
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2011, 03:38:31 am »
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I'm kicking ass on my archer, maybe you should try aiming higher, you know like a real bow, it's not a 50 cal anymore, deal with it.

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Re: So, Arrows are actually paper airplanes now...
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2011, 04:03:26 am »
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I'm kicking ass on my archer, maybe you should try aiming higher, you know like a real bow, it's not a 50 cal anymore, deal with it.

Stop shooting peasants and try shooting anyone in plate.
I'm not having a problem hitting. It's easy to account for the new arc(although it is comically retarded). The problem is that missile velocity has decreased which drops the damage done by the shot. It took me and my archer cohorts 11 arrows to drop a tin can at med-short range yesterday. That's just silly.
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