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[Janis_Corp]

and I see it makes more sense to heirloom sarranid horse JUST for 1. Gen.

Better Body Health and Charge Points.

The 2 and 3 Gen. Makes the horse + 3 speed faster but the healt fall back to 10 HP like the Normal sarranid Horse and the charge too.

Where its that now the sense?

[Wulzzz]

Small question.
I'm about to retire and want to hierloom a strong bow for the 2. time.
It says balanced strong needs 6 Power dreaw(1 above basic)
Is that correct or what?Haven't read that at bows 1. page here.


Ummm...here is what it says:
Very Strong Bow
weight 1.25
requirement 5
spd rtng 63
shoot speed 52
thrust damage 25 cut
accuracy 96


Balanced Strong Bow
weight 1.25
difficulty 6
spd rtng 91
shoot speed 59
thrust damage 26,pierce
accuracy 96

Bug?

[Lamix]

@ wulz
The second gen of strong bow is no longer balanced but fine, the website has a lot of the older stats for previews when you heirloom should be,
Fine Strong Bow
Cost: 10528
Weight: 1.25
Acc: 97
Diff:5
Spd: 64
ShSpd: 53
Thrust:26cut

As you can see with the stats you posted it still states it as Pierce dmg and the old high speed and shot speed.
Hope this helps.

[Mullerian]

Balanced Long Bow
weight 1.75
difficulty 7
spd rtng 70
shoot speed 63
thrust damage 32, pierce
accuracy 96

Can this really be true!?

Edit: Tried it, wasnt. Left sad

[Stormcrow]

Notice 32 pierce damage

These are old stats, New bow are cut damage

[Mullerian]

Yeah should have realized, oh well. Heirloomed longbow is always usefull

[kinngrimm]

Broad One Handed Battle Axe, gains weigth with the first heirloom, error or feature?

[Lamix]

From ingame stats gains 0.5 to 2.0weight for first heirloom as it becomes 'Heavy' gen 2 and gen 3 both are at 2.25weight.
Hope this helps.

[kinngrimm]

thanks Lamix, still the question is if that is intentionally, from what i could see that is the only weapon which gains weigth by heirloomimg it. Weigth is critical for my playstyle and i am not sure if i should heirloom the axe or not or go for the req 8 axe instead.

[Lamix]

seems the axes all do heres the weight stats for you:

Borad One Handed Battle Axe
base=  1.5                   
gen1= 2.0
gen2+3= 2.25

One Handed Axe
base=  1.0                   
gen1= 1.5
gen2+3= 1.75

Iron War Axe
base= 3.25
gen1= 3.75
gen2+3= 4.0

seems that way too for hammers but gen 2 seems to go back to base then gen 3 meets in the middle
so for Warhammer it would go:

Warhammer
base= 3.0
gen1= 3.5
gen2= 3.0
gen3= 3.25


Hope these help, these are just from ingame stats so i don't know that they are 100% accurate as always.

[Shinobi]

A Very useful guide, thank you so much for making this. 

Now, I have a question about the Throwing lances
First a quick recap at the specs from the guide.

Throwing lances

weight 3
requirement 7
spd rtng 80
shoot speed 17
thrust damage 60 pierce
max ammo 2
weapon length 130
accuracy 102
Bonus against Shield
Secondary Mode
Gen1= 79spd 17shspd 62pierce 2ammo
Gen2= 81spd 17shspd 62pierce 2ammo
Gen3= 81spd 17shspd 62pierce 3ammo

Question1
Anyone know if the Throwing lance melee dmg/speed change with Gen1-3 too? and if so how?

Question2
Also are these still correct numbers below?
*Info Taken from "Things about cRPG that I wish I knew"
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,139960.msg3361033.html#msg3361033

Throwing Lance (Melee)
Length: 130
Weight: 1.5
Speed: 93
Swing Dmg: 16b
Thrst Dmg: 31p



Thank you for your time and effort!
 

[Native_ATS]

A Very useful guide, thank you so much for making this. 

Now, I have a question about the Throwing lances
First a quick recap at the specs from the guide.

Throwing lances

weight 3
requirement 7
spd rtng 80
shoot speed 17
thrust damage 60 pierce
max ammo 2
weapon length 130
accuracy 102
Bonus against Shield
Secondary Mode
Gen1= 79spd 17shspd 62pierce 2ammo
Gen2= 81spd 17shspd 62pierce 2ammo
Gen3= 81spd 17shspd 62pierce 3ammo

Question1
Anyone know if the Throwing lance melee dmg/speed change with Gen1-3 too? and if so how?

Question2
Also are these still correct numbers below?
*Info Taken from "Things about cRPG that I wish I knew"
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,139960.msg3361033.html#msg3361033

Throwing Lance (Melee)
Length: 130
Weight: 1.5
Speed: 93
Swing Dmg: 16b
Thrst Dmg: 31p



Thank you for your time and effort!

18b 33p at 3xheirloomed

[Lamix]

18b 33p at 3xheirloomed

Just pulled the stats
 base= 93spd 16blunt 31pierce
Gen 1= 92spd 18blunt 33pierce
Gen2 and 3= 94 spd 18blunt 33pierce

no idea if these are accurate, they obviously seem off but that could be just due to not getting attention to the stats as its just a second wep mode.

[kinngrimm]

thanks Lamix, as the other axes also gain weight i guess it is intentionaly and not some kind of mistake.

[DesertEagle]

Incorrect xbow heirloom info:

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