Solid Builds

[Cyclopsided]

You guys are missing the point... 3/35 with 13 shield skill is the only way to go... ever see the practice shield take 30 hits from the great maul? Diddnt think so..

We've all seen the 3/39 TMNT turtle shield builds that can't be broken, everyone's made a 13 shield STF .
Oh, and they just can't be broken. They DO get crushed through by greatmauls no problem. So uh, yeah.

[Spawny]

They get pierced by crossbow bolts fairly easy too.

On top of that, a shield won't stop you from being run over by a horse and as a 3 strength character, your health and armour will be so low you will die from just 2 or 3 rundowns.

[Tore]

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Strength: 24
Agility: 15
Hit points: 59
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 8
Shield: 5
Athletics: 5
Riding: 5
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 0
One Handed: 114
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

or

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Strength: 21
Agility: 15
Hit points: 70
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 7
Power Strike: 7
Shield: 5
Athletics: 5
Riding: 5
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 0
One Handed: 114
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

Suggestions?

[Kreczor]

I'd like to add my personal hoplite build to the list, a simple 24/15 build that is much like your own Marathon:

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Strength: 24
Agility: 15
Hit points: I think it's 69 or 79
Skills to attributes: 8
Iron flesh: 5
Power Strike: 8
Shield: 5
Athletics: 5

All weapon proficiency in pole arms.

Useful if you're an offensive player looking to abuse your pole stagger for your teammates. It is not recommended to use this build until you know what you're doing, which in the meantime I would suggest putting more points into iron flesh instead of power strike.  I also use very light armor with this build giving me the dexterity to do without additional agility.

[Cyclopsided]

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Strength: 24
Agility: 15
Hit points: 59
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 8
Shield: 5
Athletics: 5
Riding: 5
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 0
One Handed: 114
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

or

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Strength: 21
Agility: 15
Hit points: 70
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 7
Power Strike: 7
Shield: 5
Athletics: 5
Riding: 5
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 0
One Handed: 114
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

Suggestions?

Both are amazing.  I see the no WM trend has finally penetrated my topic. I purposely leave WM in all my listed builds although I don't use it for dedicated melee.
I like 24/15 because I like to do more damage. But 21/15 is safer. Your choice.

I'd like to add my personal hoplite build to the list, a simple 24/15 build that is much like your own Marathon:

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Strength: 24
Agility: 15
Hit points: I think it's 69 or 79
Skills to attributes: 8
Iron flesh: 5
Power Strike: 8
Shield: 5
Athletics: 5

All weapon proficiency in pole arms.

Useful if you're an offensive player looking to abuse your pole stagger for your teammates. It is not recommended to use this build until you know what you're doing, which in the meantime I would suggest putting more points into iron flesh instead of power strike.  I also use very light armor with this build giving me the dexterity to do without additional agility.

The good old 24/15, it and all it's forms are the standard NA build. Not surprised you are using it for a no WM hoplite. Good though
I do prefer max WM for a dedicated hoplite, I am surely assuming you put the shield away 1v1. If you do, then eh, no wm is perfect.

Speaking of Weapon master, Having no WM on my pikeman brunchlady is yielding amazing results. Results such as "god, how much wpf do you have??? Has to be at least 150 minimum!". I have 109.
Not going to list the build, it's unique as far as I know and it will finish at 32. Perfect for my playstyle, probably not for others anyways.

[Kreczor]

Both are amazing.  I see the no WM trend has finally penetrated my topic. I purposely leave WM in all my listed builds although I don't use it for dedicated melee.
I like 24/15 because I like to do more damage. But 21/15 is safer. Your choice.
The good old 24/15, it and all it's forms are the standard NA build. Not surprised you are using it for a no WM hoplite. Good though
I do prefer max WM for a dedicated hoplite, I am surely assuming you put the shield away 1v1. If you do, then eh, no wm is perfect.

Speaking of Weapon master, Having no WM on my pikeman brunchlady is yielding amazing results. Results such as "god, how much wpf do you have??? Has to be at least 150 minimum!". I have 109.
Not going to list the build, it's unique as far as I know and it will finish at 32. Perfect for my playstyle, probably not for others anyways.

I've never read into wpf too much so as to understand the reasoning behind putting too many attributes behind it and frankly, I'd be able to spare one or two points into WM but that still wouldn't result in too much of a difference. I need the 8 PS to provide a healthy polestun to scare off shielders and such that push too hard into our line.

[Spawny]

I have this build on my STF alt:

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 21
    Agility: 21
    Hit points: 62

    Skills to attributes: 14

    Ironflesh: 3
    Power Strike: 7
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 7
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 0

    Polearm: 114

And I combined it with a swiss halberd (basically any polearm will do) and it's amazing. Very fast on my feet and I still hit pretty hard. Attackspeed doesn't seem to be an issue, I only have a hard time against the high agility + katana builds.

[Cyclopsided]

I have this build on my STF alt:

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 21
    Agility: 21
    Hit points: 62

    Skills to attributes: 14

    Ironflesh: 3
    Power Strike: 7
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 7
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 0

    Polearm: 114

And I combined it with a swiss halberd (basically any polearm will do) and it's amazing. Very fast on my feet and I still hit pretty hard. Attackspeed doesn't seem to be an issue, I only have a hard time against the high agility + katana builds.

I honestly think 21/21 and 24/18 are the best builds right now for battle (not siege though). Maybe not the highest KDR builds, but they rival close to them and are more fun.
 21/21 best dedicated thrower for sure.

[oprah_winfrey]

I've never read into wpf too much so as to understand the reasoning behind putting too many attributes behind it and frankly, I'd be able to spare one or two points into WM but that still wouldn't result in too much of a difference. I need the 8 PS to provide a healthy polestagger to scare off shielders and such that push too hard into our line.

It is probably worth noting that powerstrike and strength have nothing to do with pole stagger.

[Kreczor]

I know it doesn't, but when you stagger someone and hit them real hard, they get pretty scared.

[Tore]

Both are amazing.  I see the no WM trend has finally penetrated my topic. I purposely leave WM in all my listed builds although I don't use it for dedicated melee.
I like 24/15 because I like to do more damage. But 21/15 is safer. Your choice.

Thanks! and yeah, it's not much difference between 114 and 148.

Does WPF affect repairs?

[Cyclopsided]

Thanks! and yeah, it's not much difference between 114 and 148.

Does WPF affect repairs?

repairs is pretty much the only reason to get wpf as a single melee class.

[Tore]

repairs is pretty much the only reason to get wpf as a single melee class.

Ok, thanks!

[Zandieer]

If I'm by chance going pike+1hand build, should I take 18-21 or 21-18? And to which weapon should I invest more WPF? If I could get an answer in the next 30 mins I'd be really grateful

[Cyclopsided]

If I'm by chance going pike+1hand build, should I take 18-21 or 21-18? And to which weapon should I invest more WPF? If I could get an answer in the next 30 mins I'd be really grateful

is your 1h only a side arm and not a main weapon? then put only 110 in it and everything else in pole.
and both 21/18 or 18/21 would be fine.